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Sens Talk / Re: Hasek injured in Olympic opener
« on: February 15, 2006, 02:55:45 PM »
yah well I stand with you on this... it's not his fault no matter what people say... no one gets hurt on purpous.

Please, oh please, tell me where someone actually implied he did it on purpose. Come on.

possibly.... especially when the comments are directed at a person I admire and who didn't go for personal glory.  He's there for the same reason every other NHL player is there.

We get that you admire him. Trust me, we get it.

That doesn't change his situation, though. This is a team that has its best chance at winning a Cup. And the reason for that? One of them being they finally have an elite goaltender. One who came back JUST to win a Cup. So excuse us that we get a little upset when, instead of resting his body and getting ready for a grueling NHL schedule and playoff run, he goes off to Turin to try and win another medal. He had every right to go, of course, but he also had the option of staying behind. Saying "You know what? I've done my duty for my country, I've won them the gold, my loyalties are with the Senators now. They pay my salary, they brought me back into the game, they're giving me a chance at another Cup and I'm going to do my best to help them."

There's no shame in doing so. So while he's there for the same reason every other NHL player is there, he could've also decided to stay home for the very same reason other NHL players decided to.

41 year old goalies with groin problems don't win Stanley Cups.

Time for a blockbuster with Florida -  Chara, Lee and Emery for Luongo ?

Are you drunk?

Sens Talk / Re: Hasek injured in Olympic opener
« on: February 15, 2006, 02:46:42 PM »
I think you're making it personal when it isn't.

Sens Talk / Re: Hasek injured in Olympic opener
« on: February 15, 2006, 02:42:38 PM »
Every player in the league could be categorized as injury prone, everytime they step on the ice.  Foresburg has been out with boo-boos more than he's been on the ice this year, but no one accuses him of doing it on purpose.  I will say this one last time:  Hasek does not get injured purposely.  He didn't in Detroit, and he didn't do it today.  He knows his responsibility is to the Senators.  What in the world make any of you believe anything different??  He's not an idiot, believe it or not.

I would say this reaction is unbelievable, but sadly, this is what I have come to expect from people.  Hasek's done nothing but stand up and play his heart out for the Sens this season, and hopefully, will be able to continue.  If he can't, trust me, it was nothing he planned or wanted to happen.

As for having won a medal already... so have the Canadians.  Why didn't they stay home and not go play for their country???  Because they are selfish and don't care about their NHL teams, of course.  Right?? That's it!!

Or is it only Hasek who is singled out for this?   I am confused.  Not.   :icon_thumbsdown:

Nobody is saying that Hasek hasn't been amazing this season. You won't find anyone undermining his accomplishments. It's the fact that he's played so well that makes us nervous now that he's gone down injured. Because without him? We don't stand a chance. I understand you're an avid Hasek defender, but he didn't need to go to Turin. Yes, the Canadians have won a medal already. But even some of the former players had to back out because they just couldn't do it this year. And I believe Hasek should've done the same thing. He always said his only goal was to come back and win a Stanley Cup. Why jeopardize it by going to the Olympics? Say thanks, but no thanks. He's done his job for his country. I believe other posters have done a good job of explaining why Hasek is different than other Senators on the Olympic teams for their country.

Fact is, if Hasek was so dedicated to winning a Cup, he probably would've stuck around and rested his body for the home stretch of the season. Now he's injured, and while I hope it's minor, if it's not.. we're in a lot of trouble.

Sens Talk / Re: Hasek injured in Olympic opener
« on: February 15, 2006, 02:29:09 PM »
How can you disagree that he's injury prone? We all knew this going into the season. I think it was an unecessary risk going to Turin. I always thought so. His #1 responsibility is with the Senators. That's why he came back to hockey, right? To get another chance at winning the Cup? I'm not about to panic, because I'm sure the injury's minor until I hear otherwise, but his loyalties should be here. Did he have the right to go to the Olympics? Sure. But he didn't have to. He's already won his country a gold medal. He's proved himself there.

Sens Talk / Re: Hasek injured in Olympic opener
« on: February 15, 2006, 12:39:00 PM »
Any news? I watched the end of the period, hoping they'd give some sort of update, but they didn't.

Sens Talk / Re: Hasek injured in Olympic opener
« on: February 15, 2006, 11:59:33 AM »

Gah. Hope it's minor.

General Hockey Discussions / Re: Around the League
« on: February 07, 2006, 09:37:36 PM »
That was an ugly hit on McCabe. You'd swear he was done for the year with the way he was reacting, but he didn't miss a shift.

Is it just me, or are all your threads incredibly negative?

Sens Talk / Re: Who's the Best Goalie - Voted by other NHL Goaltenders
« on: January 21, 2006, 11:36:41 AM »
Declined to answer -- Ed Belfour.  :laugh2:

General Hockey Discussions / Re: Canes in first place
« on: January 21, 2006, 11:33:46 AM »
Did you honestly sign up here to tell us that?

Sens Talk / Re: Alfredsson injured/Set to return Tuesday
« on: January 09, 2006, 02:44:08 PM »
Excellent news. A little scary. Like you've all said, I hope it's not just because of a slump that he's rushing himself back. But I trust he's too smart of a player for that. I mean, it's January, and I don't think he'd risk injury to turn around a small slump NOW.

Sens Talk / Re: From Atlanta to Ottawa - Heatley getting booed
« on: January 09, 2006, 02:39:50 PM »
As for Heatley making backhanded comments about Atlanta, I think you're taking it a little personally. He gave props to Ottawa as a hockey town because it is part of the team's communications strategy and he needed to ingratiate himself to Ottawa fans - that was what the comments were about. Frankly, I don't think he had a bad word about Atlanta or the thrashers organization. He cited the obvious differences between the two teams and the two towns, and repeated that he felt he needed a change.

He was seen as damaged goods when he came here. He needed to get people on his side, and tell them he was really happy to be here. Don't forget, we traded our top scorer for this guy.

On that note - deminished trade value? You got a bona fide all star and a top four defenceman! Everyone agrees both teams got what they needed from this trade and, in fact, the only thing that was ever in doubt was whether Heatley would return to form.

As for the trade request, are you telling me you would have prefered he went to Maclean and said 'I want to be anywhere but here'? Talk about insulting the city!

I don't really begrudge the booing of Heatley in Atlanta, and I agree that it shouldn't effect Heatley too much as a professional athlete. However, I don't think you should be trying to excuse it by saying Thrasher's fans and the city of Atlanta was somehow wronged somewhere along the way in this deal. The facts simply don't bear that out.

So go ahead and boo. Participate in those chants - but don't convince yourself you're doing it out of some sense of moral outrage.

You're doing it because you feel that actively reminding someone of the worst time in their lives - a guy who before his 25th birthday has had a friend killed by his own mistake, suffered physical and mental scars, and had that hell highlighted ever since in the international media, and even in a book - is worth it as long as he plays a slightly worse game and helps your team pick up two points.

You're within your rights to do that. I'm within my rights to think less of you for it.

Awesome. I agree 100 %.

Sens Talk / Re: Hasek Hurt (for real this time)
« on: January 02, 2006, 03:07:03 PM »
Meh. At least it's his back, not his groin.

Seriously. I'd take Sundin on our team any day.

I'm not saying it was acceptable!!!!!

But it's not like he wanted to bash him with the helmet!

Holy. I wasn't implying that you said it was acceptable. Calm yourself.

EDIT: Seems Tucker was simply fined by the league, not suspended. :roll:

Heat of the moment or not, completely unacceptable. I wouldn't defend anybody on the Sens who started beating some other guy with HIS OWN EQUIPMENT.

He should get five games.

Sens Talk / Re: Sens' Problem/Crappy Play [merged]
« on: December 22, 2005, 09:29:17 PM »
Yep, this season's over. See ya next season!

I think Sundin might be the only Leaf I don't want to stab in the jaw.

I believe so.

General Hockey Discussions / Re: Around the League
« on: December 10, 2005, 07:50:16 PM »
Cherry's not much better.


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