Non-Hockey => Other Sports Talk => Topic started by: Canuck28 on July 08, 2010, 05:58:29 PM

Title: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Canuck28 on July 08, 2010, 05:58:29 PM

Why does a guy need an hour long special on ESPN and TSN to announce where he is going to play,  If I were a part of that team the ego alone would scare me lol   
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FBK on July 08, 2010, 09:29:07 PM
Guess he is joining bosh and Wade.  They are going to win the NBA championship
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Special J on July 08, 2010, 10:03:20 PM
Why does a guy need an hour long special on ESPN and TSN to announce where he is going to play,  If I were a part of that team the ego alone would scare me lol  

This is probably more the brainchild of ESPN than anything else.  Can you think of anything they could put on that would have more viewers?
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Canuck28 on July 09, 2010, 07:30:13 AM
This is probably more the brainchild of ESPN than anything else.  Can you think of anything they could put on that would have more viewers?

Yea your right there!!!   Like FBK said The Heat are looking good for a championship!
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: BlindDruid on July 09, 2010, 07:37:15 AM
I just love Dan Gilberts scathing reaction to James leaving Cleveland

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/08/dan-gilbert-blasts-lebron-james-cowardly-betrayal-in-letter-t/
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on July 09, 2010, 07:37:57 AM
The third world countries are about to become inundated with "Welcome, Lebron!" T-Shirts with Nets, Bulls and Knicks logos on them.  
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: OS on July 09, 2010, 08:38:31 AM
James played in Cleveland for 7 years, so I have no problem with him leavinjg as a UFA.  It isn't a betrayal, and he was in Cleveland because they won the draft lottery. 

But the sheer crud around his leaving and announcement is  :icon_vomit:  The Cavs owner nalied it: 

"This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his "decision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment."

Have to grow that LeBron James brand name.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Jasonf6 on July 09, 2010, 08:44:40 AM
 :icon_agree:

Not that I ever watch Basketball but I hope to hell that Miami doesn't win a championship for as long as Bosh and James are on the team, either together or separately.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on July 09, 2010, 08:49:54 AM
James played in Cleveland for 7 years, so I have no problem with him leavinjg as a UFA.  It isn't a betrayal, and he was in Cleveland because they won the draft lottery. 

But the sheer crud around his leaving and announcement is  :icon_vomit:  The Cavs owner nalied it: 

"This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his "decision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment."

Have to grow that LeBron James brand name.

Yep...the owner nailed it!  To be honest, I was a little surprised at the level of narcissism displayed by James et al.  And I was also surprised to read that ESPN initially was good with a thirty minute presentation but were talked into the full hour by the James' camp.  I sure hope that little display of "Look At Me!!!" does not become the norm.  I didn't turn it on last night (I just don't care enough) but it would annoy the h*ll out of me if other sports stars started this nonsense too!
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: OS on July 09, 2010, 09:06:10 AM
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And I was also surprised to read that ESPN initially was good with a thirty minute presentation but were talked into the full hour by the James' camp.

Really, Wow!   I thought it was mainly ESPN driving it, albiet with a very willing partner.   How about waiting until you win the whole thing once or twice.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on July 09, 2010, 09:14:25 AM
Really, Wow!   I thought it was mainly ESPN driving it, albiet with a very willing partner.   How about waiting until you win the whole thing once or twice.

^^Exactly!  A few of the sponsors - Microsoft being one - donated to the Boys and Girls Club of America for their spots during the broadcast (matching funds or something like that) so, at least, someone other than James benefitted from the exposure.  But, really, just a real display of nauseating self-promotion for me.  Sheeeesh!  Surprised he didn't hand a rose to the chosen team owner!   :duh
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Special J on July 09, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
The third world countries are about to become inundated with "Welcome, Lebron!" T-Shirts with Nets, Bulls and Knicks logos on them.  

LOL!  It's good thing too.  Those Patriot 19-0 T-shirts must be running out by now.


Yes, it was shameless self-promotion, that ESPN was an equal partner in so I don't buy they acquiesced to demands he get a full hour.  But this is the NBA; More than any other league it is driven by it's stars.

Not saying its ok.  Just that the NBA has always embraced hyping up individuals.  They gave people what they wanted.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on July 09, 2010, 09:45:05 AM
Here are Lebrons lastest Tweets.  The boys got an ego. 

What's up yall. Just landed in my new home. Thanks to all the fans and Miami organization who greeted me. The Road to History starts now!
 
Good Morning! It's your chance to ask me a question about my decision, use #lebrondecision to submit and I'll answer them tonight.

Check http://bit.ly/apxlxx (lebronjames.com) for updated info on my decision.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: BlindDruid on July 09, 2010, 11:06:04 AM
I have to wonder if all those egos will be able to work and play together successfully.  How may times have we seen a hockey club try to buy a Stanley Cup only to find failure in the end.

Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on July 09, 2010, 11:13:36 AM
It's one of those "where were you?" moments in life.  JFK assassination, Lennon murder, 9/11.  Now we can add "the Decision" to the stories we can tell our grandchilden about.    :shake:
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on July 09, 2010, 11:31:58 AM
I have to wonder if all those egos will be able to work and play together successfully.  How may times have we seen a hockey club try to buy a Stanley Cup only to find failure in the end.

Yep ^^  :nod:.  My son's friends were on the same lines last night.  One had said something like "Yeah..watch one of them rip his achilles early in the season and require surgery"  and another responded "Wonder if that will happen before one of them needs surgery for a terminally bruised ego?" .  These 19 year olds did not watch the announcement either.  :shake:
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FBK on July 09, 2010, 11:43:45 AM
I just love Dan Gilberts scathing reaction to James leaving Cleveland

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/08/dan-gilbert-blasts-lebron-james-cowardly-betrayal-in-letter-t/

 :laugh2:

He seems like an Idiot. James' actions weren't actions of a coward. He was drafted by Cleveland. Played 7 years with them. He won 2 MVP awards and right now he is the best Basketball player. The cavs suck. They are not helping him win the championship. Every player wants a ring. And he is going to find his.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: butterfly_style on July 09, 2010, 01:05:28 PM
:laugh2:

He seems like an Idiot. James' actions weren't actions of a coward. He was drafted by Cleveland. Played 7 years with them. He won 2 MVP awards and right now he is the best Basketball player. The cavs suck. They are not helping him win the championship. Every player wants a ring. And he is going to find his.
Lebron has every right to do just that.
However, to call a new conference just boost your already inflated ego , s what everyone is upset about.
I don't care about basketball in the least, but I hope Lebron falls flat on his face !!
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: PHJ314 on July 09, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Jordan, Bird and Magic all did it in the cities they gor drafted from.

Why did Lebron have to go join another team to win....shouldn't he be the one saying..."COME HERE AND LETS WIN". I'm sure the Cavs would have figured out a way to get Bosh and Wade had Lebron said that's the way it had to be.

But no....the narcisst had to fly the coop....for sunny south Beach...guaranteed the way of life played the biggest factor. Cleveland VS Miami, I mean common......yeah....easy choice.

Still a douche for bailing on the cavs.

To each his own I suppose.

TSN and ESPN are worse off for granting this jerk his hour in primetime.

Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on July 09, 2010, 02:23:12 PM
I lose a little respect for players that chase championships (i.e. Hossa).  Personally, I'm way more impressed with a player who hangs in and builds a winner out of the team he got drafted by.  It really lessons the accomplishment in my eyes if James goes on to win a championship.

That being said though, he was a free agent so he fulfilled his contractual obligation.

He's still a major douche though.

And the Cavs owner made some good points but overall the whole letter was really unprofessional.  As JE would say, he sounded like a 12 year old girl.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Jasonf6 on July 09, 2010, 02:32:35 PM
 :icon_agree:
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FBK on July 09, 2010, 03:49:24 PM
Jordan, Bird and Magic all did it in the cities they gor drafted from.

Lebron James is not as good as any of those. I don't think James can ever be as good as any of those. Magic Johnson was an amazing play-maker and he could score himself. Larry bird was unbelievable from the 3pt line.  James isn't that good of a play-maker as Johnson was neither is he that good of the 3pt shooter as Bird was.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on July 09, 2010, 11:23:15 PM
The big event in Miami that I saw tonight was disgusting.  What a bunch of idiots.  I think I may be put off from ever watching the NBA again.  Sorry, but I'm just stunned at the ego's in play here.  Lebron is either a complete dick or he's getting really bad advice as far as public relations go.  Note to Chris and Lebron.......you haven't won diddly squat yet.  Shut up until you do.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FBK on July 10, 2010, 01:37:19 AM
Bosh signed and traded to miami
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Jasonf6 on July 10, 2010, 07:02:51 AM
Bosh signed and traded to miami
Bosh did not get signed and traded to Miami.  He signed there as a UFA, on his own.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on July 10, 2010, 08:08:44 AM
Bosh did not get signed and traded to Miami.  He signed there as a UFA, on his own.

It was a sign and trade.  Saw it on TSN.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: OS on July 10, 2010, 09:12:33 AM
It was a sign and trade.  Saw it on TSN.

Yup.  Got done late last night.   And note the "sacrifice" by Bosh and Wade not taking the maximum  :drink:


"The Heat sent two future first-round and two second-round picks to the Cavaliers for James, while packaging two first-round picks and a trade exception to the Raptors for Bosh.

Next up for Miami: Deals for Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem, both expected to be done in the coming days, and a planned meeting with Lakers point guard Derek Fisher.

"We here now," James said. "And we're here for a long time."

Wade, Bosh and James all signed their six-year contracts earlier Friday night, each set to make about US$2 million less than the $16.6 million they could have demanded for the coming season."
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on July 10, 2010, 11:08:39 AM
You know, I don't have a problem with a "hometown" player leaving his hometown as a UFA to seek "greener" pastures, etc.  What I can't condone - and I am sure many Cleveland fans are completely p*ssed about - is that doing such a high profile announcement such as LeBron has done is a real f*%$#k you to the team he is leaving, IMHO.  It has redefined "classless" for me.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: OS on July 10, 2010, 11:54:48 AM
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packaging two first-round picks and a trade exception to the Raptors for Bosh.

This was actually a good deal by the Raptors.  Everything I read earlier had them taking back a contract with the sign and trade, which I guess is why they made it clear they were willing to not do it.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: playertobenamedlater on July 13, 2010, 08:12:23 AM
http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball/nba/article/835088--stern-defends-lebron-s-decision-but-not-the-tv-special

The league is going to keep losing money with a comissioner like this.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on July 13, 2010, 08:13:41 AM
Why?  I agree with everything he said regarding Gilbert, James and Jackson.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: playertobenamedlater on July 13, 2010, 12:59:01 PM
Why?  I agree with everything he said regarding Gilbert, James and Jackson.
I dunno, he fines Gilbert and says (of James)
 "The performance was fine. His honesty and his integrity, I think, shined through".
If he had any spine, he should have pasted James for "The Decision". Many feel that it has (further) tarnished the reputation of the NBA. He should have sent a message that no player is bigger than their team, and no player is bigger than the league.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Johnny English on July 13, 2010, 01:21:15 PM
I'm with FV. You may not like James or what he did, but at least he didn't slag off any the Cavs or any other team in the overblown media circus that was "The Decision". No matter how understandable his feelings, Gilbert deliberately and viciously laid into James in a way that was slightly embarrassing and ultimately, probably quite self-defeating. I think the commissioner's spot on.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: playertobenamedlater on July 13, 2010, 03:07:41 PM
I'm with FV. You may not like James or what he did, but at least he didn't slag off any the Cavs or any other team in the overblown media circus that was "The Decision". No matter how understandable his feelings, Gilbert deliberately and viciously laid into James in a way that was slightly embarrassing and ultimately, probably quite self-defeating. I think the commissioner's spot on.

Not saying that Gilbert didn't deserve to be reprimanded. The commish just didn't have to kiss James's ass in the same breath. By no means did he deserve the praise that he was given. This sends a message that players are bigger than the game, and that the commissioner supports self- promoting narcissism within the ranks of the players. Not a good message to send.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on July 13, 2010, 03:16:04 PM
I dunno, he fines Gilbert and says (of James)
 "The performance was fine. His honesty and his integrity, I think, shined through".
If he had any spine, he should have pasted James for "The Decision". Many feel that it has (further) tarnished the reputation of the NBA. He should have sent a message that no player is bigger than their team, and no player is bigger than the league.

Stern did say he was in disagreement with the "Decision" on ESPN.  Doubtful if he could have done anything else.  Many thought it was in poor taste but there are tons of things on TV that are in poor taste.  "The Decision" had little to do with the sports-end of basketball and all to do with the entertainment end.  Heck!  The ratings showed that many tuned in and that can't be a bad thing for the NBA.

And I am not surprised that he fined Gilbert for his comments.  Alluding to a player "giving up", etc. is just over the line.  If Gilbert REALLY thought that, why is he upset about "losing" James?   :smily677:

And I'm pleased to hear that he rebuked Jesse Jackson's comments and Stern did it in as careful a way as he could...very diplomatically, IMHO.  But I thought Jackson was over the line when I heard his comments.  

Like JE, I thought Stern hit the nail straight on the head with his comments. :nod:
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: work2play on July 13, 2010, 05:26:21 PM
Didn't see the special.  I probably don't spend an entire hour watching basketball during it's regular season, not giving up an hour of my summer for some BS special like this.  Just the idea of an athlete having an hour long special to announce where they will sign is ridiculous.  The fact that it was an athlete as over rated as LeBron James just makes it more ridiculous.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on July 13, 2010, 11:41:29 PM
Didn't see the special.  I probably don't spend an entire hour watching basketball during it's regular season, not giving up an hour of my summer for some BS special like this.  Just the idea of an athlete having an hour long special to announce where they will sign is ridiculous.  The fact that it was an athlete as over rated as LeBron James just makes it more ridiculous.

There was another 'special' the next night too where the three of them were "presented" to the fans in Miami in their home arena.  During that one, LeBron apparently announced that the Heat will deliver on the next 4 to 5 NBA Championships.  As I heard a commentator say on an American broadcast last night, hopefully all the other teams in the NBA have that little 'nugget' on video so it can be played repeatedly to opposing teams during the next round of playoffs as incentive to extinguish the Heat!
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on July 14, 2010, 07:23:06 AM
He started counting how many championships and he got up to 7 before he shut up.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on July 14, 2010, 11:45:34 AM
He started counting how many championships and he got up to 7 before he shut up.

Even worse..... :shake:
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: playertobenamedlater on October 01, 2010, 07:48:07 AM
Okay, so now after drawing all this attention to himself,James is saying that the negative press he received from this is racially motivated. Newsflash Lebron: people don't hate you because your'e black. We hate you because you're a narcissistic a$$hole and a douchebag.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: FV on October 01, 2010, 08:25:07 AM
 :icon_agree:
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on October 01, 2010, 10:15:02 AM
Me too!  :icon_agree:

Don't you just hate when the "race card" is played in a situation like this?  Just keep your yap shut, watch your bank account/investments grow and play where you wanted to play with your handpicked pals.  Oh...and  by the way....I heard Michael Jordan respond negatively to LeBron's "big signing extravaganza".  Does that make Michael a 'racist'? :shake:
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: work2play on October 01, 2010, 12:31:33 PM
I'm not a huge basketball fan by any stretch, but this circus does have me wanting any other team but Miami to win the NBA title.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: Jasonf6 on October 01, 2010, 02:19:19 PM
I'm not a huge basketball fan by any stretch, but this circus does have me wanting any other team but Miami to win the NBA title.
:icon_agree:
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: rose on October 01, 2010, 02:37:30 PM
I'm not a huge basketball fan by any stretch, but this circus does have me wanting any other team but Miami to win the NBA title.

Absolutely agree! :nod:

Besides....I only watch games regularly when I can catch Steve Nash play....and once he retires I am hard-pressed to think of any other reason why I would continue watching NBA.  University ball on both sides of the border is much "truer" basketball (in comparison to the gun-toting, smack-talking, bejewelled and bedazzled, barely have to run, slam-dunking - wait, not really since they are all the height of the nets - showboating majority of players that now play in the NBA) to watch and closer to the REAL game of basketball for us normal folks who have played in our own, little lives.

   /rant off.
Title: Re: Lebron and his hour long special??
Post by: playertobenamedlater on October 01, 2010, 08:00:04 PM
Me too!  :icon_agree:

Don't you just hate when the "race card" is played in a situation like this?  Just keep your yap shut, watch your bank account/investments grow and play where you wanted to play with your handpicked pals.  Oh...and  by the way....I heard Michael Jordan respond negatively to LeBron's "big signing extravaganza".  Does that make Michael a 'racist'? :shake:

Yeah, Michael is a HUGE racist, it's well documented. Besides, he was always such a fringe player and so utterly classless his opinion doesn't matter anyways. If I remember correctly, either Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton was playing the race card at the time of "the decision" and James receiving the negative press. Of course, with either of those two, it's a racially motivated crime if a black person has to wait in line at McDonalds, and both will say anything on any topic just to get their faces on TV.