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Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: humanhighlightreel on January 28, 2004, 11:00:06 PM
Wow. We go nowhere with Patty. He cost the team 2 points tonight, and he hasn't gotten it together all year.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: operasen on January 28, 2004, 11:00:24 PM
There's so much in this thread its become a ball of wool, and patrick's trying to pull it over our eyes!  That effort was very poor to be kind.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on January 28, 2004, 11:00:38 PM
Ya right, Lalime is playing well. If that's well then every other goaltender in the league is stupendously unbelievable.

Lalime now qualifies as THE WORST goaltender in the NHL.

Ottawa has to diump this TOTAL LOSER immediatealy and rebuild goaltending on any other player while they still have time to rescue this season.

C'mon folks, tell me after tonight what exactly you have to see? 3 weak goals in a row, culminating in a centre-ice game loser?

Lalime totally sucks, and anyone with an ounce of objectivity MUST agree.

I am really pissed now.

LALIME TOTALLY SUCKS. THERE IS NO FURTHER DEBATE.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SENSfreak_03 on January 28, 2004, 11:00:53 PM
pathetic...ive been one his supporters over the years, but this year has just ben unacceptable, a bad goal now and then ok, but its game after game after game
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on January 28, 2004, 11:01:42 PM
All I have to say about Lalime is "Pierre knows everything".

Absolutely horrible.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: jubejubed on January 28, 2004, 11:02:17 PM
Question: If I wear my Lalime jersey in public will I get jumped now?

Good 1st and 2nd period, but absolutly blew it in the 3rd.... :roll: This is going to get ugly...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: go_sens_go on January 28, 2004, 11:02:34 PM
I supported and believed in Lalime until tonight.  I no longer have any confidence in him, and I imagine the team doesn't either.  Time for Prusek to get the no. 1 job.  Call up Emery and shop for a goaltender.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 28, 2004, 11:03:09 PM
I can only play devil's advocate for so long. I can't let my true colours shine.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 28, 2004, 11:11:38 PM
Everyone sucked tonight! This was a poor game right from the beginning. Lalime's not singled out only- of course I'm angry at him for letting in that 4th goal and 5th one, but he's not the only that dissappointed- many others did as well. :evil:  :cry:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 28, 2004, 11:12:15 PM
All I will say is that in the 2nd period, I saw the Lalime from last season but he couldn't keep it together in the third. I'm all for Prusek getting the next start but I don't think getting a new no 1 goalie at this point of the season is the solution. We'll see how things unfold until the end of the season and if we don't make the playoffs, well then let the Sens organisation do whatever they have to do to solve the goaltending problem. However, if we do make the playoffs (which I still believe is more likely: I'm not willing to jump all over the panic button yet), I'm still willing to give Lalime a go and see how he does then. In the meantime, is Lalime seeing a sports psychologist at all?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on January 28, 2004, 11:13:20 PM
It is not just 'time for Prusek to get # 1 job' it is instead time for Lalime to exit the franchise entirely.

Why do we want this loser around?

WE have maybe only this one year left to contend for the cup - who knows what this team will be after negotiations for CBA?

Lalime must be disposed of to some dumb-ass club not associated with Ottawa.

ANYONE is better, simply because th9e whole team cannot have confidence with him.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BlindDruid on January 28, 2004, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All I will say is that in the 2nd period, I saw the Lalime from last season but he couldn't keep it together in the third. I'm all for Prusek getting the next start but I don't think getting a new no 1 goalie at this point of the season is the solution. We'll see how things unfold until the end of the season and if we don't make the playoffs, well then let the Sens organisation do whatever they have to do to solve the goaltending problem. However, if we do make the playoffs (which I still believe is more likely: I'm not willing to jump all over the panic button yet), I'm still willing to give Lalime a go and see how he does then. In the meantime, is Lalime seeing a sports psychologist at all?


I agree.  Getting a new goalie now is not the answer. Remember the Barraso trade?  That cost us then and it would cost us now.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: go_sens_go on January 28, 2004, 11:16:43 PM
Hopefully mods can keep the leaf trolls under control, they seem to be surfacing...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on January 28, 2004, 11:17:10 PM
BS*&t!

Get Kolzig - he's available for sure, and we will once again contend with him. WE HAVE NO CHANCE WHATSOVER WITH LALIME.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 28, 2004, 11:18:53 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Ya right, Lalime is playing well. If that's well then every other goaltender in the league is stupendously unbelievable.

Lalime now qualifies as THE WORST goaltender in the NHL.

Ottawa has to diump this TOTAL LOSER immediatealy and rebuild goaltending on any other player while they still have time to rescue this season.

C'mon folks, tell me after tonight what exactly you have to see? 3 weak goals in a row, culminating in a centre-ice game loser?

Lalime totally sucks, and anyone with an ounce of objectivity MUST agree.

I am really pissed now.

LALIME TOTALLY SUCKS. THERE IS NO FURTHER DEBATE.


Camp, I bow to you.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 28, 2004, 11:19:43 PM
Kolzig sucks as well
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on January 28, 2004, 11:19:53 PM
Thanks Doc.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 28, 2004, 11:19:56 PM
Quote from: plcamp
BS*&t!

Get Kolzig - he's available for sure, and we will once again contend with him. WE HAVE NO CHANCE WHATSOVER WITH LALIME.


I don't want Kolzig. Someone else though.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on January 28, 2004, 11:21:15 PM
Bruce, your last post implies your agreement that we should dump lalime for (almost) anyone alse, this a correct interpretation?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on January 28, 2004, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: blinddruid
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All I will say is that in the 2nd period, I saw the Lalime from last season but he couldn't keep it together in the third. I'm all for Prusek getting the next start but I don't think getting a new no 1 goalie at this point of the season is the solution. We'll see how things unfold until the end of the season and if we don't make the playoffs, well then let the Sens organisation do whatever they have to do to solve the goaltending problem. However, if we do make the playoffs (which I still believe is more likely: I'm not willing to jump all over the panic button yet), I'm still willing to give Lalime a go and see how he does then. In the meantime, is Lalime seeing a sports psychologist at all?


I agree.  Getting a new goalie now is not the answer. Remember the Barraso trade?  That cost us then and it would cost us now.


Barasso trade?...that was 4 years ago.  One bad trade doesn't mean you swear off goalie trades forever.

Lalime does not have what it takes to get this team to the Cup nor can he possibly have the full confidence of the players in the dressing room regardless of what they say in public.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 28, 2004, 11:22:37 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Bruce, your last post implies your agreement that we should dump lalime for (almost) anyone alse, this a correct interpretation?


I have always agreed [more or less], as I've told you in private, but it would've been too boring to have everyone agree. :lol:

I'd only make the trade if it was logical and a definite upgrade.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 28, 2004, 11:23:11 PM
you get rid of the goaltender, and you're screwed. Look what happened when Ottawa got rid of Barasso- do you all want to see something like that happen again? We'll see how Lalime does towards the end of the regular season.

The whole team didn't show up tonight- that includes Lalime. This was not a good game right from the start.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 28, 2004, 11:23:33 PM
Okay, plcamp, now calm down of your orgasmic bashing of Lalime, get outside for some fresh air and stop riding the panic train!!!  :evil:  It's one loss, Lalime needs some break, the team needs to get off their lazy talented a**es and they will pick it up tomorrow night! We don't lose that often now and karma will probably make it come down to our next game against the Leafs to take the Eastern Cenference lead! We're not in a slump yet, got it? :evil:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 28, 2004, 11:23:50 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
you get rid of the goaltender, and you're screwed. Look what happened when Ottawa got rid of Barasso- do you all want to see something like that happen again? We'll see how Lalime does towards the end of the regular season.


And if he tanks it, we're screwed.

We're playing with fire and either way we get burned.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on January 28, 2004, 11:24:15 PM
:evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 28, 2004, 11:25:04 PM
This was a HORRIBLE effort by Lalime. Absolutely HORRIBLE. Trade that bum. He's not worth a 2nd round pick. BUM!
He has one good game, one below average game, and one HORRIBLE game.

Like Pierre said 'This is NOT NHL goaltending'. This is garbage.

This is the time to get rid of this sorry excuse for an NHL goaltender. Cloutier has been dumped on for so long but this season he's been very good, he'd be an upgrade on Lalame.

Disgraceful.


Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senscore on January 28, 2004, 11:25:43 PM
The only was Lalime will be able to redeem himself is if he has a flawless season from here on out. But the chances aren't likely.


He's dead weight for this high caliber team.


Ditch him before he blows it BIG.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 28, 2004, 11:27:34 PM
This Lalime-thread has become a depressing thread. I'm still pissed after watching the game.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on January 28, 2004, 11:28:44 PM
Quote from: senscore's revenge


Ditch him before he blows it BIG.


oh he blows it big, he blows it big.....
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on January 28, 2004, 11:29:41 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
This Lalime-thread has become a depressing thread. I'm still pissed after watching the game.


time for bed, get into your jammies and dream good lalime dreams...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 28, 2004, 11:30:14 PM
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: senscore's revenge


Ditch him before he blows it BIG.


oh he blows it big, he blows it big.....


First hand account? :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 28, 2004, 11:30:44 PM
Its never good to change goaltenders in the middle of the season (Barrasso) but Muckler has to do it. If we end up bowing out in the 2nd round, at least we'll know that we accomplished something and got rid of that bum.

Lalime SUCKS!!! Period.

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on January 28, 2004, 11:31:05 PM
Why does everyone keep bringing up Barasso?

Yes it was a bad trade but that doesn't mean you never trade for a goalie again.

Some trades work out, some don't.  Bottom line is I'd rather take my chances with a goalie trade than count on Lalime to stop 60 foot shots from outside the blueline in the playoffs.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on January 28, 2004, 11:31:13 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: senscore's revenge


Ditch him before he blows it BIG.


oh he blows it big, he blows it big.....


First hand account? :lol:


hey this ain't MLG....
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 28, 2004, 11:33:07 PM
ROTFLMAO.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 28, 2004, 11:34:11 PM
Well... I wont say anything. I just hope Prusek can take us to the cup, that's all I have to say.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 28, 2004, 11:34:11 PM
All right everyone let's calm the f**k down and sleep it off and then maybe, just then maybe, we could accept the fact that we can't win them all!  :evil:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on January 28, 2004, 11:35:20 PM
It's not the losing that is upsetting but the way it happened.

Yes the defense was poor but a Cup quality goaltender doesn't let in those last 2 goals.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 28, 2004, 11:36:04 PM
Forget about this game now, its time to move on now. It almost feels again  lwhen Canada lost in the World Juniors against U.S.A.

I think Lalime was really upset about the fourth goal which was why he gave up the 5th. I think he could have really stopped those goals, but lost focus. He was dissappointing obviously in third, but I think he just became just plain upset after that 4th goal.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on January 28, 2004, 11:40:03 PM
It was an awful game overall and our defence did let us down...but our last line of defence completely disappeared! We don't have the time or lead in the standings to let Patrick "work through it" anymore. Sorry, folks, IMHO he cost us the point tonight.  You can't expect your offence to score nine goals every game....but you can expect your so-called #1 goalie to stop those last two goals.....BRUTAL!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 28, 2004, 11:40:17 PM
Good point, sens_fan_6, thus why I asked if he saw a sports psychologist. There's never a bad time to start seeing one.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 28, 2004, 11:47:37 PM
I was at the game tonight. Sure was a disappointing third period.

The time has come!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on January 28, 2004, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All right everyone let's calm the f**k down and sleep it off and then maybe, just then maybe, we could accept the fact that we can't win them all!  :evil:


NOOOOOO  =  I was at bar tonight and had a very bad experience thanks to Lalime.  That piece of crap ruined my night.  A was nice and on my way to drunk land when he let in the 3rd goal.  Now I'm in way past drunk land and beyond pissed off.  I perhaps think Lalime needs a slap in the face.  What pisses me off the most is that we cannot make a trade because any upgrade will cost too much and the injuries to Varada and Fisher have already made us too thin!  Ok that's enough from me - but they better win tomorrow night!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 29, 2004, 12:01:13 AM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All right everyone let's calm the f**k down and sleep it off and then maybe, just then maybe, we could accept the fact that we can't win them all!  :evil:


NOOOOOO  =  I was at bar tonight and had a very bad experience thanks to Lalime.  That piece of crap ruined my night.  A was nice and on my way to drunk land when he let in the 3rd goal.  Now I'm in way past drunk land and beyond pissed off.  I perhaps think Lalime needs a slap in the face.  What pisses me off the most is that we cannot make a trade because any upgrade will cost too much and the injuries to Varada and Fisher have already made us too thin!  Ok that's enough from me - but they better win tomorrow night!


Then come and talk hockey when you're sober or else, either don't drink at all or go get some fresh air! We can't win them all!!! :evil:

And BTW, since you're very selective of the posts you answer to, please make sure to answer my question about Lalime having a sports psychologist or not. Still waiting for a clever answer on that one! At least, I'm not jumping on the panic train and looking to make a costly trade without thinking twice!

Oh and BTW, docawesome, that last post was low, even for you. The fact that I'm a french canadian shouldn't discredit me as some lunatic who doesn't know a thing about hockey! I know it was meant to be a joke, but there are certain things I cannot tolerate, and this one of those things.

Signing off, before I insult anybody else... :evil:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on January 29, 2004, 12:06:05 AM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All right everyone let's calm the f**k down and sleep it off and then maybe, just then maybe, we could accept the fact that we can't win them all!  :evil:


NOOOOOO  =  I was at bar tonight and had a very bad experience thanks to Lalime.  That piece of crap ruined my night.  A was nice and on my way to drunk land when he let in the 3rd goal.  Now I'm in way past drunk land and beyond pissed off.  I perhaps think Lalime needs a slap in the face.  What pisses me off the most is that we cannot make a trade because any upgrade will cost too much and the injuries to Varada and Fisher have already made us too thin!  Ok that's enough from me - but they better win tomorrow night!


Then come and talk hockey when you're sober or else, either don't drink at all or go get some fresh air! We can't win them all!!! :evil:


ok, mom..... :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 29, 2004, 12:10:34 AM
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All right everyone let's calm the f**k down and sleep it off and then maybe, just then maybe, we could accept the fact that we can't win them all!  :evil:


NOOOOOO  =  I was at bar tonight and had a very bad experience thanks to Lalime.  That piece of crap ruined my night.  A was nice and on my way to drunk land when he let in the 3rd goal.  Now I'm in way past drunk land and beyond pissed off.  I perhaps think Lalime needs a slap in the face.  What pisses me off the most is that we cannot make a trade because any upgrade will cost too much and the injuries to Varada and Fisher have already made us too thin!  Ok that's enough from me - but they better win tomorrow night!


Then come and talk hockey when you're sober or else, either don't drink at all or go get some fresh air! We can't win them all!!! :evil:


ok, mom..... :roll:


Whatever crybaby! :evil:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on January 29, 2004, 12:13:54 AM
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All right everyone let's calm the f**k down and sleep it off and then maybe, just then maybe, we could accept the fact that we can't win them all!  :evil:


NOOOOOO  =  I was at bar tonight and had a very bad experience thanks to Lalime.  That piece of crap ruined my night.  A was nice and on my way to drunk land when he let in the 3rd goal.  Now I'm in way past drunk land and beyond pissed off.  I perhaps think Lalime needs a slap in the face.  What pisses me off the most is that we cannot make a trade because any upgrade will cost too much and the injuries to Varada and Fisher have already made us too thin!  Ok that's enough from me - but they better win tomorrow night!


Then come and talk hockey when you're sober or else, either don't drink at all or go get some fresh air! We can't win them all!!! :evil:


ok, mom..... :roll:


by the way TrentBlue now has armchaircoach's back!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JAY-MAN on January 29, 2004, 12:17:34 AM
well now we ask the question, why is lalime not doing well lately, he was a great goalie last year, but has so many not so good games lately!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 12:18:02 AM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All right everyone let's calm the f**k down and sleep it off and then maybe, just then maybe, we could accept the fact that we can't win them all!  :evil:


NOOOOOO  =  I was at bar tonight and had a very bad experience thanks to Lalime.  That piece of crap ruined my night.  A was nice and on my way to drunk land when he let in the 3rd goal.  Now I'm in way past drunk land and beyond pissed off.  I perhaps think Lalime needs a slap in the face.  What pisses me off the most is that we cannot make a trade because any upgrade will cost too much and the injuries to Varada and Fisher have already made us too thin!  Ok that's enough from me - but they better win tomorrow night!


Then come and talk hockey when you're sober or else, either don't drink at all or go get some fresh air! We can't win them all!!! :evil:

And BTW, since you're very selective of the posts you answer to, please make sure to answer my question about Lalime having a sports psychologist or not. Still waiting for a clever answer on that one! At least, I'm not jumping on the panic train and looking to make a costly trade without thinking twice!

Oh and BTW, docawesome, that last post was low, even for you. The fact that I'm a french canadian shouldn't discredit me as some lunatic who doesn't know a thing about hockey! I know it was meant to be a joke, but there are certain things I cannot tolerate, and this one of those things.

Signing off, before I insult anybody else... :evil:


I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend. i have nothing against you or the French language. I'm not sure what upset you 'Lalame' or 'go back to russia'. They were both jokes; I meant no harm. Sorry if I offended you.

Doc
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 12:20:03 AM
Quote
The fact that I'm a french canadian shouldn't discredit me as some lunatic who doesn't know a thing about hockey!


And I NEVER EVER EVER EVER did that.

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on January 29, 2004, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
All right everyone let's calm the f**k down and sleep it off and then maybe, just then maybe, we could accept the fact that we can't win them all!  :evil:


NOOOOOO  =  I was at bar tonight and had a very bad experience thanks to Lalime.  That piece of crap ruined my night.  A was nice and on my way to drunk land when he let in the 3rd goal.  Now I'm in way past drunk land and beyond pissed off.  I perhaps think Lalime needs a slap in the face.  What pisses me off the most is that we cannot make a trade because any upgrade will cost too much and the injuries to Varada and Fisher have already made us too thin!  Ok that's enough from me - but they better win tomorrow night!


Then come and talk hockey when you're sober or else, either don't drink at all or go get some fresh air! We can't win them all!!! :evil:


ok, mom..... :roll:


by the way TrentBlue now has armchaircoach's back!


what's a freind for.... :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:41:36 AM
I look forawrd to changing this thread to "The Official 2003-2004 Season Cujo orKhabibulin or Burke or Weekes Watch
".
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Rommel on January 29, 2004, 01:54:18 AM
The only possible goalie for Ottawa would be Burke, but i still don't believe it's time to shop for a goaltender.

And yes, I'm fully aware that Lalime did lose us the game, or at the very least a point.  Hopefully JM will let Prusek play against Phoenix, and get Lalime ready for the Leafs.

ps.  I'm also curious if Lalime is seeing a sports psychologist.  If he is not, I think that would help him improve his game dramatically.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on January 29, 2004, 01:56:04 AM
I didn't even bother with the post-game show on the team.  #$#@$$!$ sieve was the expression of the night for me.  That was just awful. Not up to professional standards.

The problem with "All right everyone let's calm the ... down" is the need to repeat similar posts soooo many times this season.    Sure he played well after the first soft one (2nd shot I believe) but you have to be able to do it for an entire game.   There were 4 goals that he should have had at least two of.   Goals from wide open look angle shots.  The D can't stop everything and part of there job is to force players to the outside where shots are supposed to be low percentage.

That's 2 5 goal games in in the past three against bad offensive teams.  McGuire was on the money tonight.  Big goalie playing small.  I wanted Jacques to yank him after the 5th goal and two minutes left in the game.  

Yadda, yadda, yadda, he kept us in for lots of the game.  I'm waiting for him to outright steal a game this year.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 02:01:02 AM
Did Prusek not play the last time we met the Leafs?  If he did, I would give him the start again.

I agree that Patrick would appear to need some work with a psychologist.  The problem is, that's not a 'quick fix' type of situation.  Especially if it's a loss of confidence type of situation.  This could take some time to work through.  I have some experience in this field and let's just say a couple of sessions won't correct anything for the longterm.  Any type of therapy can't be rushed....results could be rather slow.  And sometimes the patient gets worse before they get better (depends on what they are working out).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 02:09:35 AM
Quote from: OS
I didn't even bother with the post-game show on the team.  #$#@$$!$ sieve was the expression of the night for me.  That was just awful. Not up to professional standards.

The problem with "All right everyone let's calm the ... down" is the need to repeat similar posts soooo many times this season.    Sure he played well after the first soft one (2nd shot I believe) but you have to be able to do it for an entire game.   There were 4 goals that he should have had at least two of.   Goals from wide open look angle shots.  The D can't stop everything and part of there job is to force players to the outside where shots are supposed to be low percentage.

That's 2 5 goal games in in the past three against bad offensive teams.  McGuire was on the money tonight.  Big goalie playing small.  I wanted Jacques to yank him after the 5th goal and two minutes left in the game.  

Yadda, yadda, yadda, he kept us in for lots of the game.  I'm waiting for him to outright steal a game this year.


Agreed. And lets not calm down, he needs to go. His time is over.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Metalhawk on January 29, 2004, 02:53:12 AM
In the paper, Lalime will say that it's time for him to focus (how many times have we heard that one this year?).

As I posted in the gameday thread, tonight's game was the perfect image of Lalime's season: inconsistant. Sometimes great, sometimes god-awful.

Oh, and it looks like I'm not the only one who skipped the post-game show. :)

EDIT: Let's see Dave Shreiber defend Lalime this time. (for those who heard his Don Cherry-type speech after the Pittsburgh game :))
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 08:05:00 AM
I would really like another poll for Sensnetwork's members to see what % of people rate lalime worse than average, average or better than average.

It is mid season, let's have apoll now, and another one just before start of playoffs?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: feistyone on January 29, 2004, 08:35:45 AM
Well Lalime is making a doubter out of this believer.  I thought he was turning his game around.. but 5 goals this game, 5 goals vs the Pens... doesn't sit very well with me. Lalime is ultimatley "our last line of defense" and that makes me quite nervous.  I think it is too late in the season to "let him work this out".  The season is now more than half over and I think Lalime has been given all the chances that the team can afford to give him. There are teams like Boston, New Jersey and Montreal right behind the Sens in the standings who could easily capitalize on the loses.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: The_Sens_Loyal_Fan on January 29, 2004, 08:37:22 AM
Lalime's performance last night was another example of how bad he can be.  The team as got to do something about the goaltending situation.  How many more games does he personally have to cost the team before they get rid of him????

He has got to be the single biggest reason that fans do not have faith in this team.  The boys are scoring well, but there is nothing they can do about the soft goals he is letting in.  I hate the fear and breath holding that takes place every time the other team approaches the net when he is inside.  We have no confidence in Lalime and obviously he no longer has confidence in himself.

Time for a change Jacques.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BlindDruid on January 29, 2004, 08:40:40 AM
Quote from: The_Sens_Loyal_Fan
Lalime's performance last night was another example of how bad he can be.  The team as got to do something about the goaltending situation.  How many more games does he personally have to cost the team before they get rid of him????

He has got to be the single biggest reason that fans do not have faith in this team.  The boys are scoring well, but there is nothing they can do about the soft goals he is letting in.  I hate the fear and breath holding that takes place every time the other team approaches the net when he is inside.  We have no confidence in Lalime and obviously he no longer has confidence in himself.

Time for a change Jacques.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



But then  again there are those games where he has shown he can be brilliant.  I need to see more of those games before I become confident in him for the playoffs.  BTW welcome aboard and we look forward to your posts.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 29, 2004, 08:58:13 AM
Quote from: Metalhawk

In the paper, Lalime will say that it's time for him to focus (how many times have we heard that one this year?).


He did say, "this is not the way we wanted to come out in the third" and "we got too fancy with the puck".

 :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 09:03:29 AM
I have not had the opportunity to see the team live very often this year, once in Nov. in Ottawa and last nights game. The one thing that is very different in Lalime's game this year as opposed to other years is his rebound control. In previous years the puck would hit him and "die" this year if he is able to get in front of it the puck usually bounces. Then it's a scramble, most of Dallas's good scoring opportunities came after Lalime had the puck hit him. Of course he was going down early but that is nothing new. Just an observation. I suggested it in Nov. and I'll say it again, if we can afford CuJo go get him. If not let's give Prusek 10-15 games as the #1 and see what happens....what have we got to lose.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 09:19:02 AM
Quote from: rose
Did Prusek not play the last time we met the Leafs?  If he did, I would give him the start again.

I agree that Patrick would appear to need some work with a psychologist.  The problem is, that's not a 'quick fix' type of situation.  Especially if it's a loss of confidence type of situation.  This could take some time to work through.  I have some experience in this field and let's just say a couple of sessions won't correct anything for the longterm.  Any type of therapy can't be rushed....results could be rather slow.  And sometimes the patient gets worse before they get better (depends on what they are working out).



no it was Lalime and he did well.

I'd put Prusek in for Phoenix though.

My thoughts on last night nights loss. Well half way during the 1st period i said to my girlfriend. "We're gonna lose if we keep playing like this".

I thought Lalime did rather well in the first and the second periods. hw made some excellent saves. However, once the third hit, he sucked the bag. However, so did the teamd during periods 1 and 3.

So Lalime sucked for 1 period and the rest of the team sucked for 2 periods. Yet Lalime is the only one who is getting blamed....


yea riiiight......... pretty one sided people.

We've lost 3 of our last 23 games, and Lalalime lost only 1 of his last seven. I think we're doing ok so far. Calm down.



Amazing goal by shaefer in the 2nd though.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: feistyone on January 29, 2004, 09:29:06 AM
No, Prusek played in nets the last game vs the Leafs

Yes, Lalime did make some great saves in the first, but then the team provided him the offence in the 2nd period ( 2 goal lead) and he looked like he ran out of steam...

It's not that we lost, it's the way we lost.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 09:36:05 AM
yes. my mistake. it was prusek.


However, I wouldn't really say that the team provided Lalime the offence. Those 2 goals came on a powerplay as the result of Steve Ott getting a 5 minute major. Had he not been called on that, The score would have been 5-1.   Our defense was terrible for the first and third periods where as Lalime was terrible for the 3rd. I find it odd that people are calling for his head only when the rest of the team played like shite for 2/3 of the game where as Lalime only played like shite for 1/3.  

Dallas walked all over us last night. The whole team team was crap yesterday.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 09:38:55 AM
btw, what kind of loss is considered a good loss?? is there a good way to loose vs a bad way? would you have been happier if we lost 4-3, only by one goal? We've had plenty of these losses this yeat and poeple dont' seem to be happy with that either? so how about a total blowout? would you rather it have been 9-1 like we did to the Rangers a few days ago?

"It's not that we lost, it's the way we lost"

that's the dumbest line i've ever heard in my life. There is no good way to loose. Lossing sucks no matter how it goes down.
Title: Ok, so who do we replace him with?
Post by: andrewebel on January 29, 2004, 09:47:34 AM
Ok, so Lalime sucks.  Who do we bring in to replace him? Is Prusek good enough to win a Cup?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 09:50:30 AM
I thought that this thread might be a little active today ;)

I'm getting really sick of the "It was only one game", "It was just a bad period", "It was just one goal" ......  can you actually really still be believing this??????? How many games/times have lalime supporters said this? Guess what ---- when just a ... just a .... just a..... becomes more frequesnt it is no longer an aboration --- it is a TREND!!!!!

I congratulated Lalime on his good game against NYR --- but in the same post I also questioned his consistancy and said "We'll have to see .....". Well, I guess we did :(

I'll leave my thoughts with a quote from Pierre McGuire "THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! THIS IS NOT NHL GOALTENDING!!!!!!!"
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: i luv havlat on January 29, 2004, 09:53:44 AM
Quote from: Lalime40

"It's not that we lost, it's the way we lost"

that's the dumbest line i've ever heard in my life. There is no good way to lose. Lossing sucks no matter how it goes down.


So true. The reason why i was upset was not beacuse of "the way" we lost but because we were down then came back and took a lead, then gave-up the lead.And that we came so close to surpassing the leafs and yet so far. The sens were not playing like themselves(except maybe for some of the second period.) Lalime wasn't that bad in the first and second period, it was only the third that cracks started opening for him. You can't put all the blame on him.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on January 29, 2004, 09:56:31 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
yes. my mistake. it was prusek.


However, I wouldn't really say that the team provided Lalime the offence. Those 2 goals came on a powerplay as the result of Steve Ott getting a 5 minute major. Had he not been called on that, The score would have been 5-1.   Our defense was terrible for the first and third periods where as Lalime was terrible for the 3rd. I find it odd that people are calling for his head only when the rest of the team played like shite for 2/3 of the game where as Lalime only played like shite for 1/3.  

Dallas walked all over us last night. The whole team team was crap yesterday.


talk about ridiculous statements? 5-1?? It is 1-0 we take advantage of a penalty and shut the team down... how can you say the game wouldhave continued the same way if Ott didn't get the penalty?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: feistyone on January 29, 2004, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
btw, what kind of loss is considered a good loss?? is there a good way to loose vs a bad way? would you have been happier if we lost 4-3, only by one goal? We've had plenty of these losses this yeat and poeple dont' seem to be happy with that either? so how about a total blowout? would you rather it have been 9-1 like we did to the Rangers a few days ago?

"It's not that we lost, it's the way we lost"

that's the dumbest line i've ever heard in my life. There is no good way to loose. Lossing sucks no matter how it goes down.


I agree with you that losing sucks...... My point was that the Sens had a 2 goal lead and then blew it... kinda hard to swallow, that's all.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 10:02:56 AM
I agree, TM2000.  I've been a Lalime supporter for a long time.  I felt badly for him during his "slump" but as unacceptable as the play of the team was last night, Patrick's was abysmal.  He cost us a point with those last two goals.  Had the team managed to salvage a tie, it would have been a team effort....not a very good one, but a point nonetheless.  He's a veteran goaltender who makes me nervous now whenever he starts.  At least with Prusek, you CAN blame bad goals on inexperience.  There are no excuses left for Patrick.  He is supposed to step up when the rest of the team lets down....not step down along with them.  It's time for some hard lessons to be learned....Patrick has played himself out of the starting position IMHO.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 10:14:21 AM
need i remind everyone that the very last goal was scored on by ourselves. Was it Vermette that swatted at it just as Lalime was about to pull it out of the net?


armchair, my argument about the offense was that if Ott hadn't got the penalty, we wouldn't have had a 5 minute powerplay and we wouldn't have got those 2 powerplay goals. Those goals were the direct result of his penalty. The final score would have been X-1 for Dallas..  We only scored 1, 5 on 5 goal. We can't always rely on powerplay's to score our goals.

The whole team was crapo last night aside from period 2 and that's the bottom line. Lalime isn't the only reason we lost last night. I knew were goin to loose after wathcing those lazy bums get smoked all period during period 1.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 10:18:02 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
need i remind everyone that the very last goal was scored on by ourselves. Was it Vermette that swatted at it just as Lalime was about to pull it out of the net?



 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

If that's what you need to make it though the day ........

Need we remind you that the puck still made it through lalime from FREAK'IN CENTRE ICE!!!!!!! And it was Pothier BTW --- but the Star player right behid him was going to put it in anyway.

.... that's ONE GOAL you're talking about .... where is the consitancy????
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 10:21:27 AM
Ottawa didn't score a 5-on-5 goal last night....Schaefer's was SHG, the other two were PPG.  As far as Vermette tipping the puck in, as I stated in another post, he at least had a clue where the puck was...Patrick didn't.  That was a painful goal to watch.

*It was Pothier who tipped it in I think....
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 10:21:32 AM
IT
WASN'T
"A"
BAD
GAME!!!!


It is a trend of inconsistant hockey. A habit of letting in very SOFT GOALS!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 10:30:04 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
Was it Vermette that swatted at it just as Lalime was about to pull it out of the net?
.


The point is he's always pulling pucks out of our net! That's the problem! :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 10:50:29 AM
you know this thing about consistenacy is just silly.

what exactly would you call consistent? never loosing or never winning? or winning a lot and then lossing a few...this is our team and this is also patty.

I take it you would happier if he consitently sucked all the time?

If Pothier hadn't touched the puck, Lalime would have stopped it from crossing the line. PAtty saw it behind him and his stick was already there pulling it away from the goal line when Pothier swatted at it in a attempt the help but ended up putting it in. I saw the replay many times so don't try and tell me otherwise.


Lest us not forget that even the mighty leafs lost, and were shutout to Carolina a day or 2 days ago. Does that mean Belfour should be traded? he lost to an inferior team?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 29, 2004, 10:57:18 AM
You're bailing water out of the Titanic, my friend.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 11:02:26 AM
Belfour bails his team out frequently.....if they traded him, there is little doubt in my mind that they Leafs wouldn't be where they are.  Are you saying that Lalime has been bailing out the Sens?  Are we challenging for top spot because of Lalime or in spite of him?

I agree with the basic statement that it was a team loss last night.  However, your goalie should be leading you to wins and onto the Cup.  I don't see that happening with Lalime's questionable playing this year.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on January 29, 2004, 11:17:12 AM
Lalime lovers are coimng up with some great ones today.

How many times can you say it way only one bad game.  Not to mention how many times has Lalime allowed poor goals and the team has won anyway.

And yes the way we lose makes a difference.  Losing a close game on a couple of unstoppable shots or great plays is one thing.

Losing a game where you let in goals from outside the blue line is a "bad game".

I love the excuse we're hearing...."it wasn't Lalime's fault we put it in our own net".  Give me a break!  It's Lalimes fualt the puck was lying on the goal line in the first place.  Had Pothier not put it in a Star would have.

I like what rose said.....Belfour bails the Leafs out of lots of games they shouldn't win, Brodeur does the same thing.  Lalime rarely "bails this team out" and for every time he does he costs us 2 or 3 games.

Lalime is a sinking ship, face it it's time to grab a lifeboat.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on January 29, 2004, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
you know this thing about consistenacy is just silly.

what exactly would you call consistent? never loosing or never winning? or winning a lot and then lossing a few...this is our team and this is also patty.

I take it you would happier if he consitently sucked all the time?

If Pothier hadn't touched the puck, Lalime would have stopped it from crossing the line. PAtty saw it behind him and his stick was already there pulling it away from the goal line when Pothier swatted at it in a attempt the help but ended up putting it in. I saw the replay many times so don't try and tell me otherwise.


Lest us not forget that even the mighty leafs lost, and were shutout to Carolina a day or 2 days ago. Does that mean Belfour should be traded? he lost to an inferior team?


Deflections, distractions, gaping holes..... no I am not talking about Lalime, I am talking about your excuses.

and no, I would be much happier if he consistently stopped the puck at important times.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 11:22:06 AM
I've said straight up I thought Lalime had a shite 3rd period last night, so don't go puttin words in my mouth. I aint making excuses.

What i did say is that the entire team was shite last night and Lalime isn't soley to blame for last night's loss. He actually played good for 2/3's of the game whereas the rest of the team only played for 1/3rd.

Lalime will win us a cup this year and the bandwagon will still stop and wait for all you to climb aboard once again.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 11:53:15 AM
I have only read Lalime40's post on this page. That tells me enough of the story. (Missed the game I was out yesterday from literally 7:15am to 11:45 pm).

I have a feeling I can start Bandwagon chants again. And whoever turned this into Lalame - turn it back. That's even lamer than Lalime playing lame. :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 29, 2004, 11:55:08 AM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
I have only read Lalime40's post on this page. That tells me enough of the story. (Missed the game I was out yesterday from literally 7:15am to 11:45 pm).

I have a feeling I can start Bandwagon chants again. And whoever turned this into Lalame - turn it back. That's even lamer than Lalime playing lame. :roll:


I hate to break it to you Jenny, but Lalime single-handedly cost us that game. Even Maguire, who is a known Sens fan said they needed to trade him. It was that bad. Maguire was all over him during the third, especially the goal from near center ice. The capped it off for him.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: andrewebel on January 29, 2004, 11:57:40 AM
So who should we replace Lalime with? Khabibulin? Kolzig? Cloutier?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on January 29, 2004, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: andrewebel
So who should we replace Lalime with? Khabibulin? Kolzig? Cloutier?


<shudder> Cloutier is not an improvement.

I really don't know. The quality of NHL goaltenders is pretty exhausted. The available ones that is.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
I take it you would happier if he consitently sucked all the time?


Now you're just getting silly!  :roll:

An elite goalie can play at a high level - consistantly. Brodeur, Theadore, Belfour are all guys who are fairly consistant this year. Do they let the occasional bad goal in? Yes - occasionally. Does Lalime let the occasional bad goal in? Yes - consistently. Wait - I guess you are right - maybe he has been consistant all along! ;)

Ask yourself how many goalies have let in goals from the centre line this season!

And no Lalime would not have stopped that puck that POTHIER put in --- because the Star player was right on top of him and would have put it in.

What do you thing about the short-side goal he let in? What's you excuse for that one? It was just ONE goal?  :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Spaztik on January 29, 2004, 12:02:43 PM
Here's some interesting stats showing how our team plays inf front of each of our goalies when they play....

Lalime - 3.28 Goals For/Game  
             2.20 Goals Allowed/Game
             24.28 Shots Against/Game

Prusek - 3.06 Goals For/Game
             1.75 Goals Allowed/Game
             23.75 Shots Against/Game

While the Sens score more goals when Lalime is in nets (remember this includes the Rangers drubbing) it would appear that they may be more sound defensively in front of Prusek with a lower shot count but there is a huge difference in goals allowed.  I'll let someone else draw the conclusion.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 12:17:28 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
I have only read Lalime40's post on this page. That tells me enough of the story. (Missed the game I was out yesterday from literally 7:15am to 11:45 pm).

I have a feeling I can start Bandwagon chants again. And whoever turned this into Lalame - turn it back. That's even lamer than Lalime playing lame. :roll:


I hate to break it to you Jenny, but Lalime single-handedly cost us that game. Even Maguire, who is a known Sens fan said they needed to trade him. It was that bad. Maguire was all over him during the third, especially the goal from near center ice. The capped it off for him.


goal from centre ice? good lord.

so - we got Curtis injured, and a goal from centre ice? Bad. :?

I'm worried about Lalime. There must be something up...is there a team psychiatrist or something? Because any way you slice it - he will be the goalie this playoffs. Whatever it is that's bothering him needs to be sorted.

A trade would be far too big of a shakeup and would disrupt the chemistry of the team to no end I imagine. Just look how Barasso panned out for us.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Dagwood on January 29, 2004, 12:27:39 PM
Barasso was also IDLE at the time was he not?  I don't think he had played a game that season becuase of Injury or something along that line.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on January 29, 2004, 12:29:42 PM
Barasso was a jerk but he played well for the Sens.   The way Tugger played makes it questionable if it ended up as much of an upgrade or not.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: bigdottawa on January 29, 2004, 12:33:18 PM
Who changed to LaLame?

Really now, that's a little ridiculous.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 12:41:02 PM
Whoever changed it's more lame than Lalime.

People who call them Lalame and Prusuck are, quite frankly, pricks.

My 2 cents for the day. ;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on January 29, 2004, 12:41:45 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Whoever changed it's more lame than Lalime.

People who call them Lalame and Prusuck are, quite frankly, pricks.

My 2 cents for the day. ;)


actually it's Poosek around these parts!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 12:42:33 PM
Really? That's awful. Some people need to learn how to make good jokes. ;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on January 29, 2004, 12:44:58 PM
only person who can edit the thread is the origionator..... and I think his thoughts on Lalime are noted. You can officially mark him in the PL camp....

put my name on the roster as well. :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 12:47:21 PM
Yeah, well noted alright.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 12:52:32 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: Lalime40
I take it you would happier if he consitently sucked all the time?


Now you're just getting silly!  :roll:

An elite goalie can play at a high level - consistantly. Brodeur, Theadore, Belfour are all guys who are fairly consistant this year. Do they let the occasional bad goal in? Yes - occasionally. Does Lalime let the occasional bad goal in? Yes - consistently. Wait - I guess you are right - maybe he has been consistant all along! ;)

Ask yourself how many goalies have let in goals from the centre line this season!

And no Lalime would not have stopped that puck that POTHIER put in --- because the Star player was right on top of him and would have put it in.

What do you thing about the short-side goal he let in? What's you excuse for that one? It was just ONE goal?  :roll:


I disagree, I saw that replay like 5 times. Lalime would have had it out before the Star got to it. Lalime already had his stick on it scooping it up when Pothier poked at it and put it in. You can not change my mind on this. I've seen the replay many many times.

As for the other goals, I have no exuses for the 4th time now......I will say it yet again.....Lalime had a shite 3rd period and the rest of the team had a shite 1st and 3rd period.  Lalime is not soley to blame for last nights terrible perfomance. He played good for 2/3s of the game whereas the rest of the team played good for only 1/3.

how many times do i have to post that? this is number 3 or 4 now. Stop putting words in my mouth. oR can you just not read????
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 29, 2004, 12:55:10 PM
Same problem I had with my posts last night. People were putting words into my mouth by not reading  my posts. :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
I disagree, I saw that replay like 5 times. Lalime would have had it out before the Star got to it. Lalime already had his stick on it scooping it up when Pothier poked at it and put it in. You can not change my mind on this. I've seen the replay many many times.


Well, look a sixth time because the Star stick was an inch away from Pothier's. And of course you were watching so closley that you originally thought it was Vermette and not Potheir.  :P
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Post by: armchaircoach on January 29, 2004, 12:58:11 PM
Quote
I disagree, I saw that replay like 5 times. Lalime would have had it out before the Star got to it. Lalime already had his stick on it scooping it up when Pothier poked at it and put it in. You can not change my mind on this. I've seen the replay many many times.


who did they give the goal to? I don't think it was Zubov, so it must have either been scored by the Dallas forward, or so close between Pothier and the (Dallas player) that YES THE PUCK WOULD HAVE BEEN SCORED BY DALLAS ANYWAY!!!!!!!!! ergo, the shot from centre (two strides inside actually :wink: ) did beat Lalime.... give it up, your arguements they hold no water........ unless you are the ONLY person to have seen this??
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Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 29, 2004, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote
I disagree, I saw that replay like 5 times. Lalime would have had it out before the Star got to it. Lalime already had his stick on it scooping it up when Pothier poked at it and put it in. You can not change my mind on this. I've seen the replay many many times.


who did they give the goal to? I don't think it was Zubov, so it must have either been scored by the Dallas forward, or so close between Pothier and the (Dallas player) that YES THE PUCK WOULD HAVE BEEN SCORED BY DALLAS ANYWAY!!!!!!!!! ergo, the shot from centre (two strides inside actually :wink: ) did beat Lalime.... give it up, your arguements they hold no water........ unless you are the ONLY person to have seen this??


No, you're not: I saw the game too. Really, I've got to give it to you guys: Lalime was clueless about where that puck was and it sure as he** wasn't one of our own guys who swapped the puck into the net.
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Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote
I disagree, I saw that replay like 5 times. Lalime would have had it out before the Star got to it. Lalime already had his stick on it scooping it up when Pothier poked at it and put it in. You can not change my mind on this. I've seen the replay many many times.


who did they give the goal to? I don't think it was Zubov, so it must have either been scored by the Dallas forward, or so close between Pothier and the (Dallas player) that YES THE PUCK WOULD HAVE BEEN SCORED BY DALLAS ANYWAY!!!!!!!!! ergo, the shot from centre (two strides inside actually :wink: ) did beat Lalime.... give it up, your arguements they hold no water........ unless you are the ONLY person to have seen this??



I don't need to. I watched it enough. and I stand by what I said. Lalimes stick was on the puck when Pothier touched it.

The fact that I thought it was vermette makes no difference. I wan't looking at the numbers on poeple's shirts like you seem to have been doing. I was watching the puck and the proximity and placement of sticks which cleary shows Lalime had it on his stick when Pothier touched it. If Pothier had not touched it, lalime would have had it under him before the Star had got to it.


And now for the other shots...

you poeple really truly can't read..you just proved. For the 5th time now, I though Lalime was shite for the 3rd period but I though the rest of the team was shite for the 1st and the second. Lalime is not soley to blame for last nights loss and he played well for 2.3rd's of the game whereas the rest of the team only played well for 1/3.


want me to repeat if for a 6th time now???
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 01:07:21 PM
Quote from: Slam!
While Leschyshyn's wound will heal, it's difficult to tell whether Lalime can overcome the blow his confidence took last night.

 After the Stars tied the game 3-3, things took a real ugly turn for Lalime, who couldn't handle Sergei Zubov's shot from almost centre ice that sat in the crease before being banged into the net with 3:07 to go in the period.

 Bill Guerin was originally credited with the goal, but after the game, the official scorer credited Zubov with the marker.

 A little more than a minute later, Scott Young put it away with a shot from the slot that beat Lalime on the stick side.

 "It's a sad way to lose," said a downcast Lalime. "You've got a two-goal lead on the road, and you want to put a team away. We just couldn't get it done."

 As for Zubov's goal?

 "It just kind of dribbled through and they put it in," said Lalime. "What can you say?"


"What can you say."
"Nothing you can do about it."

As I said after the Pens game .... STOP THE FREAK'IN PUCK ON EASY SHOTS!!!
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Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 01:08:56 PM
well, it's true: "Nothing you can do about it."


or do you have a time machine that can magically go ack in time and prevent the loss??  I doubt it.

You took that out of context.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 01:10:00 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
I was watching the puck and the proximity and placement of sticks which cleary shows Lalime had it on his stick when Pothier touched it. If Pothier had not touched it, lalime would have had it under him before the Star had got to it.


.... and the fact that there was a Dallas stick an inch away?

The puck should NEVER have made it through Lalime in the first place - never mind who's stick it may have gone off of anyway.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 01:12:26 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: Slam!
"It just kind of dribbled through and they put it in," said Lalime. "What can you say?"


How about, "I can't stop the puck!"?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 01:13:31 PM
Quote from: blackredgo_lden4stan
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: Slam!
"It just kind of dribbled through and they put it in," said Lalime. "What can you say?"


How about, "I can't stop the puck!"?
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 01:14:36 PM
only if it's followed by

"But neither can our defense"

not to mention his stats say he can stop 9/10 on a regular basis.

Face it, until you lot can come up with someone unquestionably better, your arguaments are trivial.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 01:17:46 PM
Grease goes to the squeeky wheel.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Grease goes to the squeeky wheel.



the wheel is only squeaky because you keep jumping on and off the wagon so much.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:25:52 PM
Quote from: plcamp
I would really like another poll for Sensnetwork's members to see what % of people rate lalime worse than average, average or better than average.

It is mid season, let's have apoll now, and another one just before start of playoffs?


Agreed.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 01:28:27 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Face it, until you lot can come up with someone unquestionably better, your arguaments are trivial.


trivial

1. lacking in seriousness, importance, significance, or value
2. lacking any qualities that are unique or interesting

I think we should argue on the merit's, or demrit's as the case maybe, of Lalimes play. This isn't our guy against your guy - we both support the same team.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Grease goes to the squeeky wheel.



the wheel is only squeaky because you keep jumping on and off the wagon so much.


What wagon? What is this wagon everyone talks about? Bunch of bull! As soon as you complain about a member of the team you're "jumping off the wagon!" WEAK!

Patrick Lalime has been inconsitant. I've maintained this the entire season. I congratulate him on his good games --- but he has not been able to string them together. Maybe we should speak less of wagons and more of rose coloured glasses. If Lalime continues the way he's going he is going to cost us another series the way he cost us the Jersey series --- that is fact. How about I stay on THAT wagon.
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Post by: Lalime40 on January 29, 2004, 01:37:19 PM
If it makes you feel better about yourself, then go for it!


trivial. nice definatition. yes that's what I meant to put.
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:37:27 PM
Quote from: Lalime40


So Lalime sucked for 1 period and the rest of the team sucked for 2 periods. Yet Lalime is the only one who is getting blamed....



No.
The team came out slow in the 1st they allowed more than enough scoring chances and Lalime shut the door. In the second the whole team was brilliant. In the 3rd the team was playing well, it took 2 goals to bring the team down. First the high glove side PP which Lalime should've stopped and Pierre Maguire commented on that goal sayting that Lalime looked small on that goal, he should've made himself look bigger.  The second was the bad reound which went straight to Turgeon's stick. It was 3-3 at that point and instead of keeping his team nit eh game he lost all focus and allowed the worst goal he's ever allowed, then allowed that breakaway where he would've stopped the dhot had he been covering the bottom part of the net. The 2 goals which led to the game being tied brought the team down, and then that horrible goal. But the team still played well after that, Smolinski hit the cross bar.

So 1 horrible period by Lalime. Thats not good.

Doc
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
need i remind everyone that the very last goal was scored on by ourselves. Was it Vermette that swatted at it just as Lalime was about to pull it out of the net?



Ya blame it on Vermette. After the goal: "This is not NHL goaltending."-Pierre Maguire.
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:44:16 PM
Quote from: Lalime40

If Pothier hadn't touched the puck, Lalime would have stopped it from crossing the line. PAtty saw it behind him and his stick was already there pulling it away from the goal line when Pothier swatted at it in a attempt the help but ended up putting it in. I saw the replay many times so don't try and tell me otherwise.




Here's what thirsty wrote: "Need we remind you that the puck still made it through lalime from FREAK'IN CENTRE ICE!!!!!!! "
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
I've said straight up I thought Lalime had a shite 3rd period last night, so don't go puttin words in my mouth. I aint making excuses.



What do you call this one:

Quote from: Lalime40
need i remind everyone that the very last goal was scored on by ourselves. Was it Vermette that swatted at it just as Lalime was about to pull it out of the net?




Doc
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 29, 2004, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
If it makes you feel better about yourself, then go for it!


I'd rather be realistic than live in a dreamworld. And it doesn't make me feel anything about myself this isn't about me at all.

"End - your dreamworld is just about to end
Fall - your dreamworld is just about to fall
Your dreamworld will fall "

-- Midnight Oil

Sorry, I wish nothing more than to be wrong --- but if Lalime keeps the way he is going --- WE DON'T HAVE A CHANCE!!!!!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 01:47:21 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Grease goes to the squeeky wheel.



the wheel is only squeaky because you keep jumping on and off the wagon so much.


What wagon? What is this wagon everyone talks about? Bunch of bull! As soon as you complain about a member of the team you're "jumping off the wagon!" WEAK!


I didn't like Lalime's play ever since the first month of the season. I posted my remarks on those sentiments and got a bunch of "your a traitor" nonsense. I've never been abusive to another sen fan for the sake of it. I don't enjoy being labled as this, that or the other. As for our - our as in "traitors" - opinion of these millionares, who cares, they don't care about you!
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:51:25 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Whoever changed it's more lame than Lalime.

People who call them Lalame and Prusuck are, quite frankly, pricks.

My 2 cents for the day. ;)



You're calling me a prick?  :hhuh:

I changed it Lalame because he's been lame all season. How does that make me a prick?

Doc
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:53:56 PM
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Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:55:45 PM
[quote="Lalime40]


I don't need to. I watched it enough. and I stand by what I said. Lalimes stick was on the puck when Pothier touched it.
[/quote]

Thirsty: "Need we remind you that the puck still made it through lalime from FREAK'IN CENTRE ICE!!!!!!!"


Doc
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 01:57:09 PM
Quote from: blackredgo_lden4stan
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: Slam!
"It just kind of dribbled through and they put it in," said Lalime. "What can you say?"


How about, "I can't stop the puck!"?


:hlaugh:
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Post by: OS on January 29, 2004, 02:20:27 PM
The problem with the Lalime bandwagon is though I try hard to stay on it, it comes with built in ejector seats.    Rough landing without a parachute.
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Post by: SzuperChicky on January 29, 2004, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Whoever changed it's more lame than Lalime.

People who call them Lalame and Prusuck are, quite frankly, pricks.

My 2 cents for the day. ;)



You're calling me a prick?  :hhuh:

I changed it Lalame because he's been lame all season. How does that make me a prick?

Doc


If she's not, I am!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: OS
The problem with the Lalime bandwagon is though I try hard to stay on it, it comes with built in ejector seats.    Rough landing without a parachute.


lol :lol:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Whoever changed it's more lame than Lalime.

People who call them Lalame and Prusuck are, quite frankly, pricks.

My 2 cents for the day. ;)



You're calling me a prick?  :hhuh:

I changed it Lalame because he's been lame all season. How does that make me a prick?

Doc


In short - I guess the answer is yes.

Because petty name calling is stupid.

And there is a bandwagon - which you'll be firmly back on soon. :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: szuperwoman
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Whoever changed it's more lame than Lalime.

People who call them Lalame and Prusuck are, quite frankly, pricks.

My 2 cents for the day. ;)



You're calling me a prick?  :hhuh:

I changed it Lalame because he's been lame all season. How does that make me a prick?

Doc



If she's not, I am!


Well its ok if you call me that, Kathy. :mrgreen:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 02:35:30 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Whoever changed it's more lame than Lalime.

People who call them Lalame and Prusuck are, quite frankly, pricks.

My 2 cents for the day. ;)



You're calling me a prick?  :hhuh:

I changed it Lalame because he's been lame all season. How does that make me a prick?

Doc


In short - I guess the answer is yes.

Because petty name calling is stupid.

And there is a bandwagon - which you'll be firmly back on soon. :roll:


fine call me a prick. I've been called much worse.

Back on the bandwagon, I doubt it.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 02:37:59 PM
I don't doubt it.
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Post by: jubejubed on January 29, 2004, 02:38:05 PM
*sigh* I've thought about it over night, and I'm still pissed that we lost, and in part pissed at Lalime but there isn't much to do. I've been a huge Lalime fan since he's came here, and I still am. I can not just switch even though he hasn't been consistantly good this year.

I agree that Lalime needs to be sharper to win, I agree that he's not playing well and if he plays like he did in the 3rd period last night that we won't be winning a cup any time soon.

However I still have my faith in Lalime, call me crazy if you wish, but I do. I agree with szuper and Jen that it's stupid to call him Lalame, Leafs fans call him that, we shouldn't. I don't agree with Maguire saying that his goaltending isn't up to NHL standards. (or something like that) IMO there is no other goalie that we could trade for that would be an improvement. (ie costing us too much) Of course I'd love to have Luongo, Théo, Brodeur but it just won't happen. Plus, I still don't understand the fact that since according to almost every fan out there, Lalime is THAT bad, why would another team want him? Especially one that has a 'better' goalie that we'd trade for?
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
I don't doubt it.


I doubt it. :mrgreen:

I have eternal arguments with my friends:

you suck
no you suck
you suck
no you suck
you suck
no you suck
you suck
no you suck
I know you are but what am I.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 02:43:29 PM
Jubejubed - logic is irrelevant. There is no one else out there that is an upgrade. We have a goalie who is great - but has been inconsistent thus far. It's frustrating as hell, but I much rather stick this out with Lalime than throw away good players on a goalie who has proven no more than Lalime has and at a far greater price tag attached. I mean, come on, Burke? He hasn't won a cup either. Bulin Wall hasn't proven much post season (not to mention Tampa would never give us him either), and players like Theo and Luongo aren't going anywhere for anything.

People saying that Lalime isn't up to NHL level are full of sh*te. Lalime may be struggling, but he's not the only to have ever done so. I still think that come playoff time things will be back on track. It's kinda laughable that everyone is shouting to trade our goalie. Yeah - that REALLY helps the situation.
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan


People saying that Lalime isn't up to NHL level are full of sh*te.


Jenn, last night he wasn't up to NHL levels.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 02:48:14 PM
:roll:

If he wasn't up to NHL level, then why did we get to the conference finals last year? Does he have some mysterious twin brother or something?

Admittedly he's having struggles tying together games. But his talent his there - I just think there are a few confidence things that need to be worked out. Whatever it is, it's important he gets back on track.
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Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 02:48:35 PM
I think people are losing their sense of humour...which is not a good sign.  The name-calling is getting kind of out of hand, IMHO.

Like it or not, goalies' records are all about stopping pucks, wins/losses/ties.  Yes....other members of the Sens contribute to the wins/ties/losses as well, but your Goalie is your "bottom line", as it were.  Unfortunately, Patrick stands out at the end of the day...win OR lose.  Since they are under that microscope, commentary about their play - good or bad, win or lose - is more often than not copious.
For example, if Patrick has a stellar game, I hear a lot more about it this year than if Hossa scores two goals and adds an assist.  Conversely, if Patrick has a stinker, you will again hear more about it than if Schaefer scores a highlight reel goal and Curtis is cut for twenty-two stitches on a questionable hit, etc., etc.  That's why it's so difficult to be a goalie....PRESSURE that goes with the job.  And it would seem clear that Patrick is not handling that Pressure well this year.

My point?  Can we just agree to disagree on this in terms of the opinions that are being offered?  As I have said before, in my view, Patrick has played himself off the starting position.  Does that make me a Lalime 'Hater'?  Nope.  I just don't think he can get the job done right now and we are losing precious points in the race for the Cup waiting for him to 'find' his game.  I also think his inconsistent play is hurting the team, very possibly more than what we are seeing on the scoreboard.
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Post by: SzuperChicky on January 29, 2004, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan


People saying that Lalime isn't up to NHL level are full of sh*te.


Jenn, last night he wasn't up to NHL levels.


You meant the last period.
By no means can anyone tell me that Lalime did not play outstanding, yes, OUTSTANDING in the first two periods.
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 02:52:33 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
:roll:

If he wasn't up to NHL level, then why did we get to the conference finals last year? Does he have some mysterious twin brother or something?




Jenn, you misinterpreted what I was trying to say. Lalime is up to NHL goaltending (No one said he wasn't). But last night and only last night he wasn't. He was horrible.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 02:52:38 PM
Regular season points don't win you a cup.

Do win you a division however. Grrr.

You're right about this though - I have lost my sense of humour.

However, to say Patrick is a negative effect on the dressing room is pushing it - I assume that's what you're insuating there.
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Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 02:53:38 PM
Szuper...would that be pronounced 'penal'? :)
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 02:55:48 PM
Quote from: rose
Szuper...would that be pronounced 'penal'? :)



Two legions:

PNAL = People Not Against Lalime.

PAL = People Against Lalime.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: andrewebel on January 29, 2004, 03:07:09 PM
I agree that Patrick is in a slump right now, but there isn't anyone out there who we can get for a decent price that would be any better.  There are a lot of people out there who are quick to jump on Lalime's case, but then have no better solution.
I think we let Prusek play for the next few games while assuring Lalime that he is still the number one and let him work things out in practice.
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Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 03:07:41 PM
I am saying that his inconsistent play has cost us some valuable points.  I don't have any proof, as it were, that it is hurting the team's confidence ie in the dressing room, but if fans have lost confidence in him, I would have to think that it can affect the psyche of some of his team-mates.  

And I have never said "trade him" as I realize that there's unlikely to be an upgrade available and I DO remember how well he's played in the past and would like to think he could get his game back.  However, unless we are willing to never have another goalie ready to play any post-season games except for Patrick (and until we trade for a goalie that has post-season experience, we only have Patrick in our system with post-season experience), I believe it's time to start working on Prusek's confidence levels.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 03:35:27 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: rose
Szuper...would that be pronounced 'penal'? :)



Two legions:

PNAL = People Not Against Lalime.

PAL = People Against Lalime.


Shouldn't there be a PNAP = People Not Against Prusek?
Or should it all just be PAL = People Against Leafs?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 03:37:18 PM
Where have all the PAWs gone in recent weeks (People Against Wade)?
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 03:51:24 PM
Rose,

You complain about lost sense of humor, and then you say...

Quote
My point? Can we just agree to disagree on this in terms of the opinions that are being offered?


Where's the fun in that?

I mean, think about it. I pride myself (and my benevolent desires) as having lended many far and wide much entertainment by encouraging strong opinion and aggresively worded posts in this forum.

Lives will be diminished if this thread and its attitude fails to continue.

That fact that - stike that - the irrefutable fact that Lalime sucks is just fodder for this enjoyment. If Lalime didn't totally suck, then this thread never would have made it past the first page! And then where would we be? Watching boring Hockey where Ottawa always wins, that's where.

The point of this thread is not consensus or compromise or melding of utopian views and relationships. The point of this thread is no-holds-barred-full-fledged-outrageuos-argument! As the song says - but mama, that's where the fun is!

So please refrain from trying to appease the heated exchanges. the heat is the point, nothing else matters.

As always, I am sure you all agree.
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Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: rose
Where have all the PAWs gone in recent weeks (People Against Wade)?


Or the PAR (People Against Rose)?  :roll: :wink:

What a bunch of losers they were i bet their eating their words now eh rose? Don't worry, you've always had my back. :wink: :lol:
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 03:54:21 PM
OK heres' your musical quiz for today.

Who wrote that line I quoted in my last post - "But Mama, that's where the fun is" ?

Bonus question - On what song, what album and in what decade was the song released
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 03:56:44 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Rose,

You complain about lost sense of humor, and then you say...

Quote
My point? Can we just agree to disagree on this in terms of the opinions that are being offered?


Where's the fun in that?

I mean, think about it. I pride myself (and my benevolent desires) as having lended many far and wide much entertainment by encouraging strong opinion and aggresively worded posts in this forum.

Lives will be diminished if this thread and its attitude fails to continue.

That fact that - stike that - the irrefutable fact that Lalime sucks is just fodder for this enjoyment. If Lalime didn't totally suck, then this thread never would have made it past the first page! And then where would we be? Watching boring Hockey where Ottawa always wins, that's where.

The point of this thread is not consensus or compromise or melding of utopian views and relationships. The point of this thread is no-holds-barred-full-fledged-outrageuos-argument! As the song says - but mama, that's where the fun is!

So please refrain from trying to appease the heated exchanges. the heat is the point, nothing else matters.

As always, I am sure you all agree.


Very well said. If we agreed to disagree then whats the point of having  a discussion forum?
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Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: plcamp
Rose,

You complain about lost sense of humor, and then you say...

Quote
My point? Can we just agree to disagree on this in terms of the opinions that are being offered?


Where's the fun in that?

I mean, think about it. I pride myself (and my benevolent desires) as having lended many far and wide much entertainment by encouraging strong opinion and aggresively worded posts in this forum.

Lives will be diminished if this thread and its attitude fails to continue.

That fact that - stike that - the irrefutable fact that Lalime sucks is just fodder for this enjoyment. If Lalime didn't totally suck, then this thread never would have made it past the first page! And then where would we be? Watching boring Hockey where Ottawa always wins, that's where.

The point of this thread is not consensus or compromise or melding of utopian views and relationships. The point of this thread is no-holds-barred-full-fledged-outrageuos-argument! As the song says - but mama, that's where the fun is!

So please refrain from trying to appease the heated exchanges. the heat is the point, nothing else matters.

As always, I am sure you all agree.


Very well said. If we agreed to disagree then whats the point of having  a discussion forum?


What will happen when Lalime's traded, what will Plcamp have to argue about then? You better hope Lalime gets good real fast PL, you must keep the flame of hate alive!! :twisted: :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 04:22:14 PM
Quote from: plcamp
OK heres' your musical quiz for today.

Who wrote that line I quoted in my last post - "But Mama, that's where the fun is" ?

Bonus question - On what song, what album and in what decade was the song released


manfred Manns and the earth band....what do I win?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: blackredgo_lden4stan
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: plcamp
Rose,

You complain about lost sense of humor, and then you say...

Quote
My point? Can we just agree to disagree on this in terms of the opinions that are being offered?


Where's the fun in that?

I mean, think about it. I pride myself (and my benevolent desires) as having lended many far and wide much entertainment by encouraging strong opinion and aggresively worded posts in this forum.

Lives will be diminished if this thread and its attitude fails to continue.

That fact that - stike that - the irrefutable fact that Lalime sucks is just fodder for this enjoyment. If Lalime didn't totally suck, then this thread never would have made it past the first page! And then where would we be? Watching boring Hockey where Ottawa always wins, that's where.

The point of this thread is not consensus or compromise or melding of utopian views and relationships. The point of this thread is no-holds-barred-full-fledged-outrageuos-argument! As the song says - but mama, that's where the fun is!

So please refrain from trying to appease the heated exchanges. the heat is the point, nothing else matters.

As always, I am sure you all agree.


Very well said. If we agreed to disagree then whats the point of having  a discussion forum?


What will happen when Lalime's traded, what will Plcamp have to argue about then? You better hope Lalime gets good real fast PL, you must keep the flame of hate alive!! :twisted: :wink:


If Lalime is traded then camp's mission is over. He'll probably move on to other projects.
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: plcamp
OK heres' your musical quiz for today.

Who wrote that line I quoted in my last post - "But Mama, that's where the fun is" ?

Bonus question - On what song, what album and in what decade was the song released


manfred Manns and the earth band....what do I win?


1970's don't now the album but maybe Blinded by the light?
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 04:24:47 PM
Quote
What will happen when Lalime's traded, what will Plcamp have to argue about then?


That depends on who deserves my invaluable criticism. Right now the player deserving that is totally obvious.

But I'll argue almost anythign you want. No worries at all.
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 04:25:30 PM
If Lalime is traded (cross your fingers) we can start discussing Jacques Martin! :wink:  :roll:
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 04:25:40 PM
Manfred Mann is WRONG

1970's is RIGHT

Blinded by the Light is RIGHT
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Manfred Mann is WRONG

1970's is RIGHT

Blinded by the Light is RIGHT


???Manfred Manns earth band released Blinded by the light?
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 04:30:12 PM
The released it, but they didn't write it, someone else did and released it in I believe 1976.
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 04:30:33 PM
manfred Mann's version sucks, btw
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 04:31:46 PM
Camp and Dallas could we talk about something I understand. Who the hell is manfred.
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 04:33:43 PM
"Manfred Mann" is a crappy band that made their money covering the good music others created.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 04:33:58 PM
Quote from: plcamp
manfred Mann's version sucks, btw


I like it ! Maybe for the purpose of this thread the album could be called "blinded by the goal light" :wink:
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Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
"blinded by the goal light" :wink:


How about, "Hypnotized by the goal light". It would give meaning to his sway. :D
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 04:43:58 PM
LOL!

And someone thought there was no humour here???

Answer = Bruce Springsteen!

Album = either "The Wild, The Innocent and the E-Street Shuffle" or "Asbury Park, NJ" (I'm embarrassed to say I don't remember which, but I think it was the former)
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 04:50:47 PM
Quote from: plcamp
LOL!

And someone thought there was no humour here???

Answer = Bruce Springsteen!

Album = either "The Wild, The Innocent and the E-Street Shuffle" or "Asbury Park, NJ" (I'm embarrassed to say I don't remember which, but I think it was the former)


Are you sure...I thought Manfred Mann was around long before Springstein?

Anyway....Lalime looked bad for the third but he sure wasn't controlling rebounds at all over all the periods. I was sitting 6 rows behind the Sens bench and Schaffer was the most animated player especially after missing the wide open net for the tie at 4-3 and after the last two goals Lalime let in!
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 04:53:14 PM
Yes I'm sure.

And those to Sprinsteen albums are the best.
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 05:06:01 PM
Quote
Lalime looked bad for the third but he sure wasn't controlling rebounds at all over all the periods.


Curiously enough, this was one area where, last yearat least, I would have said Lalime was strong.
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 05:16:39 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Quote
Lalime looked bad for the third but he sure wasn't controlling rebounds at all over all the periods.


Curiously enough, this was one area where, last yearat least, I would have said Lalime was strong.


I agree, I posted that about 5 pages ago...that definitely was his strong suit last year! Maybe it's the new pads he's forced to wear?
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 05:30:03 PM
I gotta wonder (I'm serious here) if maybe his vision has degraded?

- would explain loss of rebound control
- would explain misjudging long shots
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Post by: SensRockMyWorld on January 29, 2004, 05:33:14 PM
He already does wear glasses. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that you are pitying him by trying to make some sort of excuses for him. :wink:
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Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 05:44:29 PM
For what it's worth.....my "agree to disagree" comment was based more on the name-calling as anything else.  As far as this thread dissolving into oblivion should Patrick get traded...my guess is that it would follow him wherever he went (poor b*stard!). ;)  

How about PAPL  (although Pope-like he's not! :)  )?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: rose
For what it's worth.....my "agree to disagree" comment was based more on the name-calling as anything else.  As far as this thread dissolving into oblivion should Patrick get traded...my guess is that it would follow him wherever he went (poor b*stard!). ;)  

How about PAPL  (although Pope-like he's not! :)  )?


Yet he is infallible in some eyes? :lol:
On a serious note, though, he has been knocked down hard. I fear he will not come back.
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Post by: rose on January 29, 2004, 05:50:03 PM
I was actually referring to plcamp with the PAPL.....however, I would have to think that neither are infallible ;) ..........
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 29, 2004, 06:11:37 PM
Saying that Lalime cannot provide us the level of NHL goaltending in the overall picture is pathetic.

I know he didn't look like an NHL goalie in the third period yesterday- I've already said that his play was unacceptable, but come on now- if he sucked so much, he wouldn't be in the NHL- he'd be in the minor leagues right now. His problem this year is his consistancy- I see him playing well in certain games but not having good games at times as well.

Do I think he's the right goaltender to use in the playoffs? Of course. Lalime has brought us good goaltending in the playoffs previously when he's not had his best of seasons- a good example was the regular season of 2001-2002 when he had .903 save percentage which is way less than he has right now, but he made-up for his play when he had 4 shutouts during the playoffs that year.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 29, 2004, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
He already does wear glasses. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that you are pitying him by trying to make some sort of excuses for him. :wink:


Doesn't he wear contact lenses though?
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 29, 2004, 06:15:05 PM
The fellows on the radio 1200 talk called Lalime a house league goaltender :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  That's exactly right :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:18:28 PM
Ok...time for a change of tactics.

I'm purging myself now. New avatar, new sig, new location.

From now on I'm gonna be a loser and jump off the Lalime bandwagon. I will lose all faith. I will moan and complain and campaign for a trade.

Therefore, since I've done the opposite, Lalime will make a fool of me.

Reverse Karma - work your magic again for me!
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Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on January 29, 2004, 07:24:13 PM
I don't think Spezza will let you done Jenn. Just don't get emotionally attached. :wink:
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 29, 2004, 07:26:07 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Ok...time for a change of tactics.

I'm purging myself now. New avatar, new sig, new location.

From now on I'm gonna be a loser and jump off the Lalime bandwagon. I will lose all faith. I will moan and complain and campaign for a trade.

Therefore, since I've done the opposite, Lalime will make a fool of me.

Reverse Karma - work your magic again for me!


 :lol: Hehe, you're funny!
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: blackredgo_lden4stan
I don't think Spezza will let you done Jenn. Just don't get emotionally attached. :wink:


I'm emotionally attached to almost every player on the team anyway. :( Leads for some neuroticy (is that a word?) from me. I guess it's entertaining for you other posters though ;) I'm little Miss Drama Queen!
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:26:55 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Ok...time for a change of tactics.

I'm purging myself now. New avatar, new sig, new location.

From now on I'm gonna be a loser and jump off the Lalime bandwagon. I will lose all faith. I will moan and complain and campaign for a trade.

Therefore, since I've done the opposite, Lalime will make a fool of me.

Reverse Karma - work your magic again for me!


 :lol: Hehe, you're funny!


Thankyou!!! I try :D
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 29, 2004, 07:29:11 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Ok...time for a change of tactics.

I'm purging myself now. New avatar, new sig, new location.

From now on I'm gonna be a loser and jump off the Lalime bandwagon. I will lose all faith. I will moan and complain and campaign for a trade.

Therefore, since I've done the opposite, Lalime will make a fool of me.

Reverse Karma - work your magic again for me!


 :lol: Hehe, you're funny!


Thankyou!!! I try :D


I also changed my avatar from Lalime's 2003-2004 season photo to the wonderful Canadian flag and  the Peace Tower. :)
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:33:00 PM
It'll work out for us in the end ;)
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Post by: Dagwood on January 29, 2004, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
 I also changed my avatar from Lalime's 2003-2004 season photo to the wonderful Canadian flag and  the Peace Tower. :)


And I changed from my Fighting Platypus AV to Lalime  :shock:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:33:53 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Quote from: sens_fan_6
 I also changed my avatar from Lalime's 2003-2004 season photo to the wonderful Canadian flag and  the Peace Tower. :)


And I changed from my Fighting Platypus AV to Lalime  :shock:


I see. Those who dislike Lalime have avs of him, and those who like him don't. So crazy, it might just work ;)
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 29, 2004, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Quote from: sens_fan_6
 I also changed my avatar from Lalime's 2003-2004 season photo to the wonderful Canadian flag and  the Peace Tower. :)


And I changed from my Fighting Platypus AV to Lalime  :shock:


Jenn we should start dissing Lalime's goaltending just so Dallas and Plcamp can get some enjoyment out of it! :wink: :lol:
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Post by: Dagwood on January 29, 2004, 07:36:28 PM
I never said I didn't like him.  I'm just not happy with his play of late. Just when I think he is back to form, he self destructs.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:42:18 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Quote from: Dagwood
Quote from: sens_fan_6
 I also changed my avatar from Lalime's 2003-2004 season photo to the wonderful Canadian flag and  the Peace Tower. :)


And I changed from my Fighting Platypus AV to Lalime  :shock:


Jenn we should start dissing Lalime's goaltending just so Dallas and Plcamp can get some enjoyment out of it! :wink: :lol:


Yes, I agree.  :lol:  :lol: What would be even funnier though is if they start praising the hell out of him. Now THAT would be great to see! ;)
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:42:59 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
I never said I didn't like him.  I'm just not happy with his play of late. Just when I think he is back to form, he self destructs.


:(

You're reasonable though. Some others aren't! ;)
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Post by: Dagwood on January 29, 2004, 07:46:13 PM
Actually, the AV I'm using shows where the majority of goals scored on any goaltender.  I just added the Lalime graphics for fun.  :htongue:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:47:10 PM
Oh - and here I am thinking you did a detailed analysis on Lalime ;) :lol:
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Post by: Docawesome on January 29, 2004, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Actually, the AV I'm using shows where the majority of goals scored on any goaltender.  I just added the Lalime graphics for fun.  :htongue:


Thats an interesting av.  :wink:
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 29, 2004, 07:48:33 PM
You know Dag, Lalime looks like a lamb with all the white in your avatar.

Think this thread should be called Lalamb watch :wink:  :lol:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 07:49:15 PM
lambs are cute little things.

reminds of that Simpsons episode actually!
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Post by: Dagwood on January 29, 2004, 07:53:40 PM
Geeze, Like I'd have time to break down the stats on goals scored against Lalime.  I have two young kids so that is impossible.

Heres the original (http://www.nepeanhockey.on.ca/images/zones.gif)

I didn't have a choice but to use the grey/white colours
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Post by: Spaztik on January 29, 2004, 08:09:20 PM
Hmmmm....that means 40% of goals are scored low stick side...Friesen must have figured that one out in Game 7.  :roll:
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Post by: plcamp on January 29, 2004, 08:28:43 PM
Quote
What would be even funnier though is if they start praising the hell out of him.


I'm praying he gets the hell out of Ottawa.

That close enough?
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 29, 2004, 08:37:38 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Quote
What would be even funnier though is if they start praising the hell out of him.


I'm praying he gets the hell out of Ottawa.

That close enough?


No.
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Post by: TrentBlue on January 29, 2004, 08:48:07 PM
That piece of crap Lalime did it again!  I was playing PS2 NHL 2004 vs. some guy online who was being New Jersey - and I scored with under a minute left to tie the game at 4 and send it to OT.  Then 12 seconds in the Devils' White skates in off the face off one foot over the blue line and fires a weak wrist shot past Lalime low (on the ice) stick side.  It was BS - Lalime better start playing better.  It's like I didn't have NHL goaltending or something!   :lol:
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Post by: Dagwood on January 29, 2004, 10:43:11 PM
That's funny Trent.  EA Sports does a good job at making the game life like.  :shock:
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 30, 2004, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
From now on I'm gonna be a loser and jump off the Lalime bandwagon. I will lose all faith. I will moan and complain and campaign for a trade.


What's with all the bandwagon stuff still? What are you a sheep!? If you second guess Lalime are you a loser? If you have an original thought or point of view? Who the hell cares what everyone thinks!? Have an original thought and forget the freak'in "bandwagon"!
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Post by: Metalhawk on January 30, 2004, 02:15:13 AM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
From now on I'm gonna be a loser and jump off the Lalime bandwagon. I will lose all faith. I will moan and complain and campaign for a trade.


That's rather uncalled for. You just called me (and many others) a loser because I don't support Lalime. No one called you a loser for supporting him.
Title: I WAS THERE ......
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on January 30, 2004, 02:42:45 AM
AND I WAS THERE ..... !!!!!!

I was in Dallas to see this the game. I went down after a business trip .

the reffing sucked a&&&. Hossa got mauled on a good break... no call. Then bonk gets called on a weak hooking call...

Ott put the WA in curtis's JAW...... ouch, and good call.


I have to say Dallas does have a nice facility though. We had a good time down there. I am not going to go through the motions yet again, but really when will this end?

Here' the deal, get your books out ....

PRUSEK IS OUR GOALIE

You heard it here first muppets.

sheaffers goal was amazing and what have I alwa6ys said ???? WE CAN REPLACE MAGGIE....

No one has ever mentioned Magnus's name.... no one even cares....

File him under the shastlivy, Dackell, Persson,
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Post by: Docawesome on January 30, 2004, 02:48:28 AM
Who you callin' muppet? Smack you with this broom. :hlaugh:
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Post by: Metalhawk on January 30, 2004, 03:11:09 AM
Quote from: docawesome
Who you callin' muppet?


And a muppet shall lead them... :)
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Post by: plcamp on January 30, 2004, 08:40:33 AM
See the difference, early third period game is suddenly 2-1. Shortly after Prusek makes the big save and Ottawa goes up 3-1. That's what didn't happen in Dallas, and the G is the difference.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 30, 2004, 12:26:01 PM
Amen!

Muppets! Ahhh Billy! ;)
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 30, 2004, 03:22:01 PM
Good game by Prusek- however Lalime should get the next start- he need to build his confidence which has been lacking lately in nets. Prusek has been having a lot of confidence while Lalime hasn't. A good way to start gaining confidence is playing against a team like Toronto.
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Post by: oprington on January 30, 2004, 03:48:47 PM
Every Leaf fan is praying that Lalime starts Saturday night. For the obvious reason that the Leafs will be guaranteed at least one, probably two soft goals and for the other reason that we don't have to see the ugliest mask in hockey. Prusaks mask looks like he is wearing a garbage can on his head
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Post by: interzone on January 30, 2004, 04:00:08 PM
3400th reply!

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Prusaks mask looks like he is wearing a garbage can on his head


Whatever works for him. I don't care if he actually does go out in a garbage bag, as long as he stops the puck.

Will Lalime be starting for tomorrow? Judging from his consistent pattern of inconsistency, he should be solid tomorrow.
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Post by: Lalime40 on January 30, 2004, 04:06:23 PM
lol, well at least that is some consistency. Maybe the wrong kind, but it's a start! :)
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Post by: plcamp on January 30, 2004, 04:18:23 PM
Anything that Prusek does/wears to distract and annoy Leaf players is great.
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Post by: Lalime40 on January 30, 2004, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Anything that Prusek does/wears to distract and annoy Leaf players is great.


agreed.



yea pl, i agreed with you. No need for a double take. :)
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 30, 2004, 04:21:01 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Anything that Prusek does/wears to distract and annoy Leaf players is great.


Yep, I agree! Its pretty funny actually.  :lol:
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Post by: JAY-MAN on January 31, 2004, 04:27:24 AM
well Lalime gets the start for tonights big game, so hopefully he comes away with a big win to gain his confidence and move on!
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Post by: sensgal on January 31, 2004, 07:44:40 AM
Ya Hopefully he has a good game personnaly I would be playing Prusek but I guess Lalime needs his confidence back and if he sits to long he won't get it back.
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Post by: Dagwood on January 31, 2004, 08:57:12 AM
I don't worry about Lalime against the Leafs.  He knows and feels the same way we do about the Leafs.  

From what I saw in the Leafs/Thrashers games last night, The Leafs best worry about stopping the rush and down low cycling, before losing sleep over the Lid Prusek wears.

Stajan had a beautiful goal last night as did Roberts streaking down the Left side, but that was against the Thrashers.... now put the Sens on the ICE and lets see how they do.  :twisted:
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Post by: Docawesome on January 31, 2004, 11:52:38 AM
He better keep it under 2 goals.
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Post by: plcamp on January 31, 2004, 11:54:13 AM
Hey, If Lalime keeps it at 2 goals, then they will be weak ones in the first 5 min and Leafs will cruise to a 2-1 victory.

We simply can't win with Lalime. Put Prusek in and we win 6-1
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 31, 2004, 11:55:53 AM
We have won games with Lalime. :roll: Dear god - this goes beyond ridiculous. Lalime has a very good record of bouncing back. It's been consistency that's been the problem. I expect that he'll be on fire tonight. I pity the leafs.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 31, 2004, 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Hey, If Lalime keeps it at 2 goals, then they will be weak ones in the first 5 min and Leafs will cruise to a 2-1 victory.

We simply can't win with Lalime. Put Prusek in and we win 6-1


That simply shows that your goal here is to prove your so-called agenda correct  and feel flattered about yourself rather than hope he has a good game which I find quite unusual.

Even the other people who are not so fond of Lalime's goaltending lately, still hope that he has a good game against any team we're playing.
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Post by: plcamp on January 31, 2004, 01:52:36 PM
Hope is one thing, reality another.

Of course I hope Sens win, even if Lalime is for some reason playing.

But I have had way too much of this l;oser - I cannot fathom why any Sens fans woudl fail to shudder at the notion of him playing.
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Post by: plcamp on January 31, 2004, 01:54:19 PM
Quote
Dear god - this goes beyond ridiculous.


You got some problem with that?

Good. I do too.

It is beyond ridiculous that Lalime is playing on this otherwise spectacular team.
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Post by: Metalhawk on January 31, 2004, 03:25:54 PM
I predict a great game by Lalime tonight. After all, his inconsistency pattern indicates he has a good game after stinking up the place the game before.
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on January 31, 2004, 05:42:45 PM
If he lets in an early weak goal I think we'll have a hard time coming back. If he plays well and keeps us in the game through the first with no goals over his shoulder, to the short side or right through him we should be able to wear the older, slower and less skilled Leafs down.

Here's hoping! I don't expect much from him but I'm hoping.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 31, 2004, 06:25:04 PM
Agree with metal, if you follow his pattern it should be a strong game tonight ...

... but I will be holding my breath everytime someone comes in from his right side and winds-up in the face-off circle ...


... or takes a shot from centre ice :roll:
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Post by: Docawesome on January 31, 2004, 08:53:33 PM
I missed the 1st period, how did he do?

The 2nd goal was very similar to the 2nd or 3rd goal in the Dallas game, bad rebound. It was a hard shot but he let the rebound go straight to Sundin's stick (Turgeon's in the Dallas game). Not as good with rebound this season.

He can't be faulted for the 3rd goal since it was a deflection from a horrible angle.

Doc
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on January 31, 2004, 08:58:06 PM
Lalime has been playing very well. First goal was a bit of a mess up. Lalime couldn't clear the puck. Then the rest couldn't clear the puck. No one could clear the damn puck.

Can't fault him on the second goal. 5 on 3 - Lalime stopping numerous shots. Yes, there was a small rebound, but really, the Sens had to help him clear the puck. It was only a small rebound. But I guess that's the 5 on 3 - not enough players covering the leafs.

3rd goal - more pissed off that the buzzer went off before the goal (at least it seemed to me). A nice deflection in.

Quite frankly, Lalime has bounced back well. Leafs getting better chances, and outplaying us. The PP for us is brutal, we've had nothing 5 on 5, and our PK is not being up to snuff.
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Post by: Docawesome on January 31, 2004, 09:01:08 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan


Can't fault him on the second goal. 5 on 3 - Lalime stopping numerous shots. Yes, there was a small rebound, but really, the Sens had to help him clear the puck. It was only a small rebound. But I guess that's the 5 on 3 - not enough players covering the leafs.
.


That was Rachunek's job. He was supposed to clear it or make sure Sunqueen doesn't get to it.

Doc
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Post by: SensSmaq on January 31, 2004, 09:03:32 PM
Lalime has to realize he is not Brodeur or Turco.

Stop trying to play the puck outside your crease, you suck at it!

Other than that Lalime has played well.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 31, 2004, 09:59:34 PM
Two of those goals were unfortunate circumstances. You Can't really say Lalime was the sole reason for the loss tonight but he wasn't playing too well just like the rest of his other teammates weren't either.
Title: yo
Post by: JAY-MAN on January 31, 2004, 10:04:15 PM
Lalime may have had a couple of weak goals, and is struggling, the best thing that can be done is get him right back in the net in jersey and against the leafs on thursday, so that he can get some wins and gain some confidence, he needs to get hot!
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on January 31, 2004, 10:15:44 PM
C'mon people IT'S ONLY ONE GAME!!!!!
Get off his back!!!!!!!!!!!
/sarcasm
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Post by: Docawesome on January 31, 2004, 10:20:44 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
C'mon people IT'S ONLY ONE GAME!!!!!
Get off his back!!!!!!!!!!!
/sarcasm


Read you loud and clear. All Hail PAL!.

Doc
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on January 31, 2004, 10:42:27 PM
Picture how Prusek must feel.....Watching Lalime from the eyes of Prusek must feel like watching a train wreck...


Prusek walks into TO's barn and helps forge a 7-1 lead only to have the rug swept out from under him. It was a bad call starting Lalime tonight, and Martin is only hanging himself and the team by pulling these moves.

That 2nd goal was horrible, lalime gives the puck away, loses his stick , gets out of position then lays down on his belly.... WTF?

He was completely comatose for the 4th goal...

The rumors are written all over the walls, and that is, Mucks doesn't beleive Lali's the man to drive us to a cup.

Steven Hawking could handle the puck better...


PAL is here to stay until Lalime goes away!

I like Cherry's angle tonight, he totally endorsed Patty. Of course all the leaf fans want patty in nets. I would like to see sheilds in nets... get it?

The opposing teams know when #40 is between the pipes they usually have a spare red light at the goal judge station for when the first one burns out from constant rotation.
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Post by: BlindDruid on January 31, 2004, 10:52:01 PM
All is not lost.  After all there have been other goalies who have struggled during the season and still won the cup.  The most memorable was Osgood in 97 or 98 when playing for Detroit.  He had a really lousy year and struggled big time yet still won the cup that year.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on January 31, 2004, 11:46:12 PM
Prusek would have been in a mess as well if he'd started tonight, fortunately, he's started in games where's he's been getting help from his teammates.

I have to agree with Don Cherry that Lalime can only start playing better and regaining his confidence if Jacques starts playing him more from now. I think he should start against New Jersey and Toronto. Some might want Prusek to start next time against Toronto, but I feel Lalime should start. He needs to get himself out of this goaltending mess he's been in lately.
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Post by: thinkwild on January 31, 2004, 11:51:45 PM
I think by reputation and achievement Lalime is right at the edge.  He has the game for it.

I find we expect every shot to be saved by him.  Every goal is under scrutiny.  People actually complain that the 5th goal in a 5-1 game is weak.

Watching Lalime and Prusek, Lalime inspires more confidence, looks the better goalie.  Pierre McGuire, who picked the habs to be battling the penguins for last place, has called Lalime out.  I think he'll respond.

I think too often we look lo blame a loss on the goalie for letting in the goal.  Hiding our heads in the sand at times.

If you expect perfection, then Lalime isnt elite.  If every great laser to the top corner is a weak goal, we are in trouble.  If every defelected puck must be stopped, Lalime isnt our man.  

We dont have the best Centre in the league.  We dont have th ebest defensman in the league.  We dont have the bet left winger in the league.  But without the best goalie, everyone is too scared of the battle?
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 01, 2004, 12:01:11 AM
NORM! I mean thinkwild! nice to see y'a bud!

I don't want him to be the best, I just want him to be consitantly good. Letting in two goals from centre ice in the same season in inexcusable. The number of softies he lets in far outweighs the spectacular saves he makes. And I don't expect him to be perfect --- I just want him to stop the routine shots that every NHL calibre should. As a fan I think I should be able to expect that much. I am extremely extremely nervous going into the playoffs with him in nets this season -- he hasn't been himself. He has struggled in the past -- but ha has always made routine saves in the past.

McGuire nailed it -- he looks very small this year.

Hopefully, he does pull out of the funk he's been in this season. It's been over 1/2 season so far and he is still struggling --- will he be ready for the playoffs? I hope so, but I'm not feeling confident.
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Post by: thinkwild on February 01, 2004, 12:11:31 AM
lol, thx, does that make you Fraser or Cliff?  :D

He's had some bad games and some bad goals, and currently is in a trough, but Brodeur, Turco, Belfour, Luongo have all had similar stretches.  Right now there's concern rightly, but theres also no reason to see why he wont fight back from this just as the team did from its early slump.  Even in a bad loss, he is fundamentally playing well.  He is well on his way to working out of it.  The way you have to do it.

I think his bad games and goals are a bit exaggerated, and often an excuse for a bad game by the team.  And the lack of faith not too courageous
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 01, 2004, 03:03:20 AM
I don't blame Lalime for tonight's loss. The Sens got stiffled on the powerplay. There's no excuse for going 1-13.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 01, 2004, 08:47:38 AM
I disagree with the point made regarding Lalimes playing time. You really think if he had played a few extra games by now, he would be at top calibre?

I have been around the game long enough to disagree with that point from a skills level , but agree with it from a sympathy point of view. This isn't his rookie year guys. If anything, all we would of got from playing lalime more was a higher GA% and a couple extra numbers under the L column. I have no faith in his consistency, and niether does the team for that matter. Lesychn's comments made between period1&2 could be taken as "If we had the same goaltending performace as toronto, we would still be in the game"

Thats all that is. Do I really think that we'll get a new goalie? nope. Not here, but I really wish we would. How can people say that he hasn't "played enough minutes this year to get better" only to say "he's our veteran, and has ample playoff experience..? Whats that all about? Here's a starting goalie who has been in front of the net for years....only to have his game slouch because he didn't get enough minutes back in November? BS!  That has made my top 5 Lalime excuse list and the more you think about it the more ludicrous is seems. Maybe its just me... again.

If your going to give anyone extra ice time it should be Prusek. He has earned it. I dont see Lalime doing much else before the playoffs. I wouldn't get my hopes up this year. Last night the intensity T.O threw at us was just a hair under the playoff calibre. And look at the results. You can tell this by the media blaming Toronto for being too rough and beating on our players, which has been going on for years through hundreds of articles.. with enough ink to fill the exxon valdez..Well I say "wah wah wah" It's the same thing we have been hearing for years. But you will never read an article that slams Ottawa for not doing something about it. Last night we could have used Brookbank. I honestly think Hnidy s^%# himself when domi grabbed him. If were going to stand up and play then lose the seive, get a tough guy for these games to settle Dum Dum Domi, and lets get back to playing hockey. All that crap at the end of the game would have been solved if domi would have got his face dented. We allow cheap shots, the refs too, so why should T.O have to resort to a different strategy to win? I think T.O battled hard last night and deserved to win. What did we do?  

I would not want to be locked into a 7 game series with Lalime playing like he has been away from the game for 4 years. As we get closer to the playoffs I am not liking what I see in the pipes. We also need to call up a heavy weight from Bingo for Thursday. Wups, we dont have one...

If you want to play Lalime more and turn this into a personal training camp fine, just mail me a check for the wasted $.
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Post by: Leafer4Life on February 01, 2004, 03:52:49 PM
Quote from: thinkwild

I think his bad games and goals are a bit exaggerated, and often an excuse for a bad game by the team.  And the lack of faith not too courageous


Lalime has a LOT of weak games.

3 goals on 9 shots against Pittsburgh
Coughing up a 3-1 lead against Dallas.
Another loss last night against Toronto, etc etc...

The thing with Lalime is the other team KNOWS they can win with him in the net...

With Prusek, they HOPE they can win.
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Post by: OS on February 01, 2004, 03:59:32 PM
Quote
All that crap at the end of the game would have been solved if domi would have got his face dented.


LOL.  Domi grabbed Hnidy and Vanner, he wasn't up to trying Neil or Chara last night.

Lalime has had plenty of starts this year. Cherry says that he will play better.... welll DUH!  He's playing the worst of his Sens career and has no where to go but up.  Cherry has the knack for taking the most obvious things and pronoucing them as if it was a new, profound insight.   But it works and he has the millions, not me.
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Post by: Dagwood on February 01, 2004, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Leafer4Life
Quote from: thinkwild

I think his bad games and goals are a bit exaggerated, and often an excuse for a bad game by the team.  And the lack of faith not too courageous


Lalime has a LOT of weak games.

3 goals on 9 shots against Pittsburgh
Coughing up a 3-1 lead against Dallas.
Another loss last night against Toronto, etc etc...

The thing with Lalime is the other team KNOWS they can win with him in the net...

With Prusek, they HOPE they can win.


Uggggg, as much as I hate to agree with you, your comments are in line with what some of us have been saying for some time now. The Sens do not play the same in front of Lalime these days where as with Prusek they seem to have more jump.
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Post by: OS on February 01, 2004, 04:02:23 PM
It's Just 16 GOALS in 4 GAMES.  CALM DOWN and GET OFF HIS BACK!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Leafer4Life on February 01, 2004, 04:02:34 PM
Let me tell ya something...

I am not a fan of the Sens by any means but I must give credit where credit is due:

Fearless prediction:


With the Prusek/Emery tandem, you WILL win a Stanley Cup.

Put it in the bank, both those guys hate to lose, are fierce competitors, and elevate the defensive play of the team.

They're crazy awesome.

 :D
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Post by: Dagwood on February 01, 2004, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: OS
It's Just 16 GOALS in 4 GAMES.  CALM DOWN and GET OFF HIS BACK!!!!!!!!!


 :lol:
Title: BOOOOO
Post by: Funky McBain on February 01, 2004, 04:39:28 PM
Man oh man id hate to be in Mucks shoes right now... I hope we get a good goalie or let Prusek play LOTS more... I dunno but theres a little voice in me that keeps sayin "Prusek sounds a lot like Hasek" :)
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 01, 2004, 04:46:08 PM
I tend to take the side, that Lalime will only get better! but this next stretch of games will show this!
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Post by: Docawesome on February 02, 2004, 01:26:43 AM
Quote from: OS
It's Just 16 GOALS in 4 GAMES.  CALM DOWN and GET OFF HIS BACK!!!!!!!!!


That BETTER be sarcasm.  :lol:
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 02, 2004, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: JAY-MAN
I tend to take the side, that Lalime will only get better! but this next stretch of games will show this!


He can't get much worse, and if he just continues to play as he has been we might last about 6 games into the playoffs. Then wonder for 2 years what went wrong :roll:
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 02, 2004, 09:59:58 AM
Lalime is probably the happiest guy in the world that the Leafs circus overshadowed his poor performance!

That's right --- look at his GAA in the last four games ...

The Titanic is going down ... do you get on a life raft or listen to the band?

(http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:zQtkBCFqadkJ:www.oar.noaa.gov/spotlite/archive/images/sunclimate_4.jpg)
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 02, 2004, 11:29:59 AM
Dpending on the severity of the damage. In this case, I'd do neither. I'd fix the damage and keep it afloat since I invested so much in it.

but if you wanna just throw it all away, then go for it.
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Post by: armchaircoach on February 02, 2004, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
Dpending on the severity of the damage. In this case, I'd do neither. I'd fix the damage and keep it afloat since I invested so much in it.

but if you wanna just throw it all away, then go for it.


may be a moot point when you are sitting there with an iceberg shoved up your arse..... yes the sens lost as a team, but Lalime still let in goals he shouldn't, and the worst part is...... I am beginning to expect it so it doesn't pee me off as much :roll:
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 02, 2004, 11:47:21 AM
Quote from: armchaircoach
may be a moot point when you are sitting there with an iceberg shoved up your arse.....



  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

It just may be a moot point!!!!!  :wink:
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 02, 2004, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: armchaircoach
may be a moot point when you are sitting there with an iceberg shoved up your arse.....



  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

It just may be a moot point!!!!!  :wink:


In the words of Dido - "The Sens will go down with the ship..."   :cry:
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Post by: armchaircoach on February 02, 2004, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: armchaircoach
may be a moot point when you are sitting there with an iceberg shoved up your arse.....



  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

It just may be a moot point!!!!!  :wink:


In the words of Dido - "The Sens will go down with the ship..."   :cry:


mmmm, Dido...
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Post by: operasen on February 02, 2004, 12:15:52 PM
Who's in the band?  Iceberg up your arse - a growler or a bergy bit?  Dido?  The Greek or the singer?  Man, take 30 minutes off and you miss everything!
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 02, 2004, 02:23:04 PM
:lol: @ operasen :lol:

Imagine what would happen if you missed a couple of days!


Something I just thought of .... Phillips went in the tank after having his first kid, and then came-on with a great playoff performance. Might the newborn be in Lalime's head and he's having trouble concentrating? If THIS is the case ..... can he get over-it? Will the All-Star break do him some good?
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Post by: lady_stanley on February 02, 2004, 02:49:14 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Phillips went in the tank after having his first kid, and then came-on with a great playoff performance. Might the newborn be in Lalime's head and he's having trouble concentrating? If THIS is the case ..... can he get over-it? Will the All-Star break do him some good?


Nice try, thirsty. But 1) this is Lalime's second kid and 2) any professional athlete should be able to rise above that. Now, if his kid was really sick or there were some other crisis, that would be weighing on his mind. I heard that he's sleeping in the basement to try to get some quiet, so I can't imagine the kid is keeping him up at night. I'm afraid we'll have to look elsewhere to find the source of his woes.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 02, 2004, 03:04:26 PM
.... trying to give hime a benefit of a doubt. Guesss I go back to my Titanic analogy ;)
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Post by: lady_stanley on February 02, 2004, 03:43:38 PM
Strike up the band: The Senators' official site says that Lalime will start against Jersey. Iceberg right ahead! Women and children to the lifeboats!

(On a positive note, does this mean that maybe Prusek will start on Thursday????)
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 02, 2004, 03:51:05 PM
well Lalime beat the Devils last time we played them. He had a better game than Brodeur. Let's hope he does it again.
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Post by: lady_stanley on February 02, 2004, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
well Lalime beat the Devils last time we played them. He had a better game than Brodeur. Let's hope he does it again.


Good point. I take back my remarks. Everyone gets a life preserver until we know the ship is sinking!!
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Post by: plcamp on February 02, 2004, 04:16:59 PM
Lalime glug glug glug is glug glug starting vs glug NJ?
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Post by: plcamp on February 03, 2004, 08:55:43 AM
No TV for the game tonight!!!
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 03, 2004, 08:59:14 AM
that sucks.
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Post by: armchaircoach on February 03, 2004, 09:04:33 AM
Quote from: plcamp
No TV for the game tonight!!!


maybe I'll rent the movie then... turn down the sound and listen to the plot forming on the Team1200.... Rose, Rose hold on, promise me you won't forget me..... Rose?....  Patty, Patty hold on...... :lol:
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Post by: trashmouth12 on February 03, 2004, 04:26:26 PM
173 pages HOLY SCHMIT!!
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Post by: plcamp on February 03, 2004, 04:29:47 PM
Hi Trash,

So what do YOU think of our stellar Goaltender?
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Post by: Docawesome on February 03, 2004, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: trashmouth12
173 pages HOLY SCHMIT!!


It was 300+ but we doubled the size of pages.
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Post by: operasen on February 03, 2004, 04:32:19 PM
And that's with 20 posts per page.  Used to be 340 something before the change.  And don't forget the 24 point (red text, sinking ships [loved that one] and myriad of smilies) and that's only on the last few posts.

Count on it - nobody sits on the fence in this thread, except maybe Patrick.

You beat me again Doc!
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Post by: trashmouth12 on February 03, 2004, 04:33:42 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Hi Trash,

So what do YOU think of our stellar Goaltender?


good...just not this year...lets in horrible goals......cant blame it on D cuz we got a nice D core. too streaky!
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Post by: plcamp on February 03, 2004, 04:42:02 PM
OK,

So what (if anything) do you think should be done about him?

And what separates "...just not this year..." from "...the book's out on him and his career is now on the rocks..."

See I think the latter is more accurate vs. Mr Lalime. he came to a good team, one that was quickly gettign better...folks around the league started to take real notice, and craft their strategies as Ottawa became the team-to-beat...Lalime was then seen to have predictable weaknesses that teams now exploit...Lalime couldn't correct...Lalime still can't correct?

Is Lalime a dead duck, and if you say no, then why woudl you expect him to get back to a 'form' that he only held when Ottawa wasn't as serious a threat?
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 03, 2004, 06:01:36 PM
I was looking at the Ottawa Citizen online- I don't live in Ottawa any longer, apparently there was a Lalime article in today's paper its consider as subscriber content, anyone would like to post that whole article here?
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 03, 2004, 06:06:20 PM
Quote from: plcamp
OK,

So what (if anything) do you think should be done about him?

And what separates "...just not this year..." from "...the book's out on him and his career is now on the rocks..."

See I think the latter is more accurate vs. Mr Lalime. he came to a good team, one that was quickly gettign better...folks around the league started to take real notice, and craft their strategies as Ottawa became the team-to-beat...Lalime was then seen to have predictable weaknesses that teams now exploit...Lalime couldn't correct...Lalime still can't correct?

Is Lalime a dead duck, and if you say no, then why woudl you expect him to get back to a 'form' that he only held when Ottawa wasn't as serious a threat?


I think he'll rebound :roll:  He has the flu, sore back, new child, flu, wasn't his fault, flu :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 03, 2004, 06:08:04 PM
It's important the he does well today, if he doesn't, than I'll be ticked off!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: jubejubed on February 03, 2004, 06:11:41 PM
Here ya go sens_fan_6:
Lalime has had enough of the questions
Allen Panzeri
The Ottawa Citizen

February 3, 2004
NEW YORK - Patrick Lalime is touchy, and just a little snappy.

Of course, giving up five goals in three of the past four games and having to listen to the inevitable criticism will do that to you.

No one likes to have their shortcomings dissected in public. Lalime is no different, and he's tired of it.

"I already answered that question," he said yesterday, refusing to revisit ground that had already been covered in a scrum the previous day.

"I don't want to hear any more about that. I just want to go out and do my own stuff."

However, he better get used to hearing the questions.

Except for a 9-1 win over the New York Rangers, he has been underwhelming recently, even if the errors of his teammates have helped make him look bad.

His precarious 6-5 win over the Penguins Penguins, and his 5-3 and 5-1 losses to the Dallas Stars and Toronto Maple Leafs, respectively, are not exactly results that inspire confidence, and Lalime conceded that his confidence has taken a few hits.

"Sometimes when things don't go the way you want them to ... it's all about confidence," he said. "I think it's a little bit of everything going on.

"But if you want to look at the last game, it's already behind me. I don't want to talk about it any more.

"We've got two big games coming up for us. There's going to be a lot of emotion out there, and that's what you need when you want to play your best."

He'd better hope that starts soon. He'll start tonight against the New Jersey Devils.

With a flat "No,' coach Jacques Martin said he wasn't worried about Lalime's recent results and never considered resting him for a spell in favour of Martin Prusek.

"If you look at the goals on Saturday, three of them were tip-ins," Martin said.

However, it's clear that Lalime, like several of his teammates, has to improve his game, even if his numbers are not as bad as the furor would suggest.

Lalime's current goals-against average of 2.29 is slightly higher than it was at the end of last season (2.16), but it is lower than it has been at any other point of his career.

That, though, is not good enough for the playoffs. His average last year in the playoffs was 1.73.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 03, 2004, 06:14:07 PM
Thanks Jubejubed!: :)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 03, 2004, 06:58:56 PM
Will this thread transform itself once again to the 'Lalime Watch' or the status quo?

Stay tuned for the conclusion of tonights game right here on the New RO.

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sensgal on February 03, 2004, 07:02:08 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Will this thread transform itself once again to the 'Lalime Watch' or the status quo?

Stay tuned for the conclusion of tonights game right here on the New RO.

Doc

But I thought it wasn't going to be televised.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 03, 2004, 07:05:11 PM
Quote from: sensgal
Quote from: docawesome
Will this thread transform itself once again to the 'Lalime Watch' or the status quo?

Stay tuned for the conclusion of tonights game right here on the New RO.

Doc

But I thought it wasn't going to be televised.


Its not? My sens sked says it is, on the New Ro.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: jubejubed on February 03, 2004, 07:07:16 PM
they took it off the sched. when the added the two Pay-per-view games instead :cry:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 03, 2004, 07:08:31 PM
Quote from: jubejubed
they took it off the sched. when the added the two Pay-per-view games instead :cry:


@$#%# $$^#@% ^%$%% $%$##
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: jubejubed on February 03, 2004, 07:09:19 PM
Quote from: docawesome
@$#%# $$^#@% ^%$%% $%$##


my thoughts exactly  :evil:  :x  :evil:  :x
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sensgal on February 03, 2004, 07:11:11 PM
Dido
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: trashmouth12 on February 03, 2004, 07:30:08 PM
he needs to be in nets more...just to boost his confidance ya know
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 03, 2004, 08:17:53 PM
Up to the end of the 1st he's been spectacular. JINX!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: jubejubed on February 03, 2004, 08:27:29 PM
:wink: way too go Doc. now if they score it's all your fault :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sensgal on February 03, 2004, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: trashmouth12
he needs to be in nets more...just to boost his confidance ya know

Ya i agree he needs to build up his confidence but I think it should already be built up He's been in the league for quite a few years and his confidence shouldn,t be up and down.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: work2play on February 03, 2004, 09:12:26 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Up to the end of the 1st he's been spectacular. JINX!


Not a JINX, just Lalime flopping around in his crease down & out before the shot to give up the tying goal in the last minute of the second  :evil:  

Can't give up bad goals when you're playing against Brodeur :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 03, 2004, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: work2play
Quote from: docawesome
Up to the end of the 1st he's been spectacular. JINX!


Not a JINX, just Lalime flopping around in his crease down & out before the shot to give up the tying goal in the last minute of the second  :evil:  

Can't give up bad goals when you're playing against Brodeur :roll:


Lalime's been playing really well in this game.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 03, 2004, 09:29:29 PM
Sounds like he's doing well (no TV), but can he do it for 60 mins?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 03, 2004, 09:51:03 PM
The question is not with Lalime tonight but upfront. *sigh*

If it's not one thing, it's the other :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 03, 2004, 09:54:38 PM
Yeah --- I'm not watching but from what NHL On the Fly has shown he is playing well tonight. Didn't see Elias' goal was it a good one or a softie?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 03, 2004, 09:56:34 PM
Must see the highlites of the 2 goals.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 03, 2004, 10:02:53 PM
I wanna look at the winning goal.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SENSfreak_03 on February 03, 2004, 10:05:15 PM
wasnt really his fault, rachunek gave it right up, langenbrunner thru it in front, friesen deflected it in
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on February 03, 2004, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: SENSfreak_03
wasnt really his fault, rachunek gave it right up, langenbrunner thru it in front, friesen deflected it in


Lalime was unecessarily scrambling around on that one.  It's not like it was off a rebound.  I still think it was 99% Rachunek's fault - but Lalime on his game should stop that one.  Paddle down...cover the bottom of your net when a guy is in the tight - there were no other threats.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on February 03, 2004, 10:15:37 PM
It's hard to stop pucks when the shooter is alone in front of you. Chara's presence was sorely missed tonight.

However, some good news on the Leaf front -- Belfour is day-to-day with a sore back.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on February 03, 2004, 10:55:28 PM
Quote from: interzone
It's hard to stop pucks when the shooter is alone in front of you. Chara's presence was sorely missed tonight.


I agree 100%  -  he was really missed tonight - and sooo obviously not there.  You can have Havlat or Varada and whatnot injured and not really notice.  Even when Alfie missed a couple of games you didn't notice until they got on the PP and had no clue what to do!  But without Chara in front the net seems much more accessible!   :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 03, 2004, 11:04:52 PM
Chara, Vermette and Spezza were missed out there tonight.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 03, 2004, 11:07:16 PM
Well, I just saw the full highlights and Lalime made some really good saves. The Elias goal was a little marginal -- he just waited it out and Lalime finally dropped a little too early. The other goal could of went either way --- I'll give Lalime that one.

But looked like a pretty good performance by Lalime .... but here's the REAL question --- what happens next?

PS --- the D didn't look very good. Agreed, Chara leaves a HUGE hole!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 03, 2004, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Well, I just saw the full highlights and Lalime made some really good saves. The Elias goal was a little marginal -- he just waited it out and Lalime finally dropped a little too early. The other goal could of went either way --- I'll give Lalime that one.

But looked like a pretty good performance by Lalime .... but here's the REAL question --- what happens next?

PS --- the D didn't look very good. Agreed, Chara leaves a HUGE hole!


What happens now? Well, I think that the team's moral will not improve. But, I think that by Thursday, the Sens will be very hungry for an (offensive) revenge and the Leafs will be certainly booed by the crowd. I think anything could happen on Thursday.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: GoHawksGo on February 04, 2004, 12:39:18 AM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Well, I just saw the full highlights and Lalime made some really good saves. The Elias goal was a little marginal -- he just waited it out and Lalime finally dropped a little too early. The other goal could of went either way --- I'll give Lalime that one.

But looked like a pretty good performance by Lalime .... but here's the REAL question --- what happens next?

PS --- the D didn't look very good. Agreed, Chara leaves a HUGE hole!


What happens now? Well, I think that the team's moral will not improve. But, I think that by Thursday, the Sens will be very hungry for an (offensive) revenge and the Leafs will be certainly booed by the crowd. I think anything could happen on Thursday.


i definitely agree...

look for a close game by both teams, my instinct says the leafs will still take it though...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JAY-MAN on February 04, 2004, 12:50:57 AM
I saw this game, i feel bad for Lalime, because he played a good game, but unfortunately the deffence wasnt so good tonight :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Shred on February 04, 2004, 05:04:51 AM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Chara, Vermette and Spezza were missed out there tonight.


yeah and the Devils were playing without Captain Scott Stevens, or injured winger Christian Berglund...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 04, 2004, 08:06:08 AM
Scratch another mark under the L column for Lalime


The guy can't steal us anything.....!!!!!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: lady_stanley on February 04, 2004, 08:10:32 AM
Quote from: interzone
However, some good news on the Leaf front -- Belfour is day-to-day with a sore back.


Good news and bad news. I want the Sens to beat Belfour fair and square. If we win on Thursday with Kidd in nets, we'll never hear the end of the Leafs' fans saying that it was their back-up. Bring on the Lumberjack. I want a piece of 'em.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on February 04, 2004, 08:13:00 AM
Quote from: lady_stanley
Quote from: interzone
However, some good news on the Leaf front -- Belfour is day-to-day with a sore back.


Good news and bad news. I want the Sens to beat Belfour fair and square. If we win on Thursday with Kidd in nets, we'll never hear the end of the Leafs' fans saying that it was their back-up. Bring on the Lumberjack. I want a piece of 'em.


true that...but at the same time that's what you get for building your team around old men!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Spaztik on February 04, 2004, 08:18:36 AM
Our record in 1 goal games is getting to be embarrasing.  I hope to hell Mucks signs a bunch more snipers if he isn't getting a better goltender because at this rate we need to get 6 goals a game to assure a 1 goal win.  Have we abandoned the trap completely?  Does Lalime fall asleep during tight games?  Do we double the amount of cross ice passes in the 3rd?  I mean we have the best GF/GA ratio in the league, but not the wins to back it up.  Too many blowout wins, not enough close ones.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: lady_stanley on February 04, 2004, 08:20:29 AM
Quote from: TrentBlue

true that...but at the same time that's what you get for building your team around old men!


 :lol:

Maybe they can carry Eddie out on a stretcher and keep him propped up in nets. He won't be able to hack out the backs of the Sens' knees with a bad back so he'll just have to rely on stopping shots.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 04, 2004, 10:32:59 AM
I'm not even sure I would put the blame on Lalime last night. The team looked awfull. They couldn't generate any speed through the neutral zone at all! The defence, see Pothier, was awfull! We really missed Chara big time. The kid Laich looked really nervous, didn't do much. Langfeld looked great, good hustle, good corner work, went to the net did everything Schastlevey doesn't do.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: operasen on February 04, 2004, 10:48:45 AM
Thirsty - I finally figured out the link from the Titanic photo you posted a couple of pages ago and the Sens (Lalime) .  They both looked great until they hit the ice.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 04, 2004, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: operasen
Thirsty - I finally figured out the link from the Titanic photo you posted a couple of pages ago and the Sens (Lalime) .  They both looked great until they hit the ice.



Bingo!  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 04, 2004, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: Spaztik
Our record in 1 goal games is getting to be embarrasing.  I hope to hell Mucks signs a bunch more snipers if he isn't getting a better goltender because at this rate we need to get 6 goals a game to assure a 1 goal win.  Have we abandoned the trap completely?  Does Lalime fall asleep during tight games?  Do we double the amount of cross ice passes in the 3rd?  I mean we have the best GF/GA ratio in the league, but not the wins to back it up.  Too many blowout wins, not enough close ones.


Very well said.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on February 04, 2004, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
I'm not even sure I would put the blame on Lalime last night. The team looked awfull. They couldn't generate any speed through the neutral zone at all! The defence, see Pothier, was awfull! We really missed Chara big time. The kid Laich looked really nervous, didn't do much. Langfeld looked great, good hustle, good corner work, went to the net did everything Schastlevey doesn't do.



wow Dallas, I am impressed. Did someone hijack your account or something?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: i luv havlat on February 04, 2004, 03:30:41 PM
IMO, Lalime played really well last night, yah they lost, but its not all his fault. From the replays i saw on tv, he really held the guys in the game, the sens infront of him made a lot of horrible moves.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 04, 2004, 03:34:49 PM
Ott seems ill-equuipped to break the trap when they happen to fall behind.

There are only two solutions...

a) Stop falling behind = improved G

b) Figure out and fix the reason Ottawa can't seem to effectively use their speed to beat the trap. They've GOT the speed, but seem unable to deploy it in a purposeful approach to defeat the trap.

Both are problems, either one woudl solve the good-ratio-inadequate-outcome problem this team is having.

But left alone, this tendency to lose the 1G games promises an early playoff exit. And don't just assume the playoffs will even be reached (it only woudl take one or two key injuries and this team is in great jeopardy)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 04, 2004, 03:53:59 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
I'm not even sure I would put the blame on Lalime last night. The team looked awfull. They couldn't generate any speed through the neutral zone at all! The defence, see Pothier, was awfull! We really missed Chara big time. The kid Laich looked really nervous, didn't do much. Langfeld looked great, good hustle, good corner work, went to the net did everything Schastlevey doesn't do.



wow Dallas, I am impressed. Did someone hijack your account or something?


It's really me :wink:  All I said was "I'm not even sure" :wink:  I watched the game last night with the Jersey announcers, did anyone else notice how many times the announcers said "missed high to the golve side"? They must have said it 4-5 times in the first two periods. They knwo Lalimes weaknesses but couldn't capatalize.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on February 04, 2004, 06:10:24 PM
Did I get this right?
Some of these so-called hockey "experts" would like see the Ottawa Senators pick up Cujo to replace Lalime.

So we would rather pay a goalie $6 million+ to choke in the playoffs (more than Lalime has)...than pay Lalime $2.5 million+ to actually play well in the playoffs (don't you dare tell me last post-season was all his fault)...

hmmmm...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 04, 2004, 06:27:22 PM
There isn't any point of Cujo coming here. He isn't having too good of a season, a .903 save percentage and 2.50 GAA and he's expensive!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 04, 2004, 06:29:23 PM
I was watching OTR and a former NHL referee said that the Sens odds of winning with Lalime are slim as opposed to the Sens with a Khabibulin, Burke, Kolzig, or Hasek.

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on February 04, 2004, 06:49:27 PM
That's smart, let's get Hasek!
Let's pay him $10 million to hack a few of our players legs off!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: lady_stanley on February 04, 2004, 08:40:35 PM
Hey all you PAL and PNAL members. (I'm neutral: I believe in the two-goalie system. How's that for fence-sitting? :))

Well, just because I like stirring things up a bit, how about this article in today's Ottawa Sun about how Martin Brodeur thinks Patty can take us through the playoffs?

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2004/02/04/334978.html
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_obsessed on February 04, 2004, 09:07:39 PM
Quote from: operasen
Thirsty - I finally figured out the link from the Titanic photo you posted a couple of pages ago and the Sens (Lalime) .  They both looked great until they hit the ice.


the first time i heard that phrase it was used to diss the leafs

call me stupid and ignorant but what does the PAL and PNAL stand for. all i can figure out right now is something something Lalime
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 04, 2004, 09:10:59 PM
Quote from: lady_stanley
Hey all you PAL and PNAL members. (I'm neutral: I believe in the two-goalie system. How's that for fence-sitting? :))

Well, just because I like stirring things up a bit, how about this article in today's Ottawa Sun about how Martin Brodeur thinks Patty can take us through the playoffs?

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2004/02/04/334978.html


Thats fine but 'PNAL' is not an organization. Its an unlisted group created by teenagers cough szup cough. :mrgreen:

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on February 04, 2004, 09:12:14 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: lady_stanley
Hey all you PAL and PNAL members. (I'm neutral: I believe in the two-goalie system. How's that for fence-sitting? :))

Well, just because I like stirring things up a bit, how about this article in today's Ottawa Sun about how Martin Brodeur thinks Patty can take us through the playoffs?

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2004/02/04/334978.html


Thats fine but 'PNAL' is not an organization. Its an unlisted group created by teenagers cough szup cough. :mrgreen:

Doc


You forgot about PAD, hun.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 04, 2004, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: szuperwoman
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: lady_stanley
Hey all you PAL and PNAL members. (I'm neutral: I believe in the two-goalie system. How's that for fence-sitting? :))

Well, just because I like stirring things up a bit, how about this article in today's Ottawa Sun about how Martin Brodeur thinks Patty can take us through the playoffs?

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2004/02/04/334978.html


Thats fine but 'PNAL' is not an organization. Its an unlisted group created by teenagers cough szup cough. :mrgreen:

Doc


You forgot about PAD, hun.


I support PAD.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: lady_stanley on February 04, 2004, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: szuperwoman
Quote from: docawesome

Thats fine but 'PNAL' is not an organization. Its an unlisted group created by teenagers cough szup cough. :mrgreen:

Doc


You forgot about PAD, hun.


Doc: Didn't you say on another thread that you're 21? I'm not a math whiz but I'd say that's only two years beyond the teenage years. Unless you were just messing with our heads, which I can't believe you'd ever do. :)

Szuper: I take it that PAD is People Against Docawesome? Why, what'd he ever do to you?  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on February 05, 2004, 07:24:49 AM
Quote from: lady_stanley
Hey all you PAL and PNAL members. (I'm neutral: I believe in the two-goalie system. How's that for fence-sitting? :))

Well, just because I like stirring things up a bit, how about this article in today's Ottawa Sun about how Martin Brodeur thinks Patty can take us through the playoffs?

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2004/02/04/334978.html


I saw this too. It's got to mean something getting props from the best in the league. Sure hope Lalime can work this through.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: lady_stanley
Hey all you PAL and PNAL members. (I'm neutral: I believe in the two-goalie system. How's that for fence-sitting? :))

Well, just because I like stirring things up a bit, how about this article in today's Ottawa Sun about how Martin Brodeur thinks Patty can take us through the playoffs?

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2004/02/04/334978.html


I saw this too. It's got to mean something getting props from the best in the league. Sure hope Lalime can work this through.


It means all the teams in the East and West are looking forward to Ottawa starting Lalime in the playoffs....Their collective mouths are watering :roll: They would probably say the same if we were starting Andre Rasaco SP? (remember him?).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on February 05, 2004, 02:32:21 PM
if you had actually read the article, you would have seen that that's no the case at all.....

What Brodeur said was that he too has gone through rough times and let's in goals from outside the Blueline. He also said how he hasn't had near the amount of pressure to deal with that Lalime and has benifited from it.  He mentioned how much of a confidence booster it is when your team stands behind you.

but alas, you missed all that.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 05, 2004, 02:40:16 PM
Whoa! Did my eyes cheat me or has somebody finally decided to grow out of the lame humour and put the thread title back in a more neutral form?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
if you had actually read the article, you would have seen that that's no the case at all.....

What Brodeur said was that he too has gone through rough times and let's in goals from outside the Blueline. He also said how he hasn't had near the amount of pressure to deal with that Lalime and has benifited from it.  He mentioned how much of a confidence booster it is when your team stands behind you.

but alas, you missed all that.


And that changes his motivation to say these things? HOW? He just want's to be a nice guy? More like, please play the goaltender that consistantly lets in weak goals when your in the playoffs so we won't meet you!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: lady_stanley


Doc: Didn't you say on another thread that you're 21? I'm not a math whiz but I'd say that's only two years beyond the teenage years.


Actually I'm 27.  :wink: :mrgreen:

Quote

Unless you were just messing with our heads, which I can't believe you'd ever do. :)


Oh God no!

Quote

Szuper: I take it that PAD is People Against Docawesome? Why, what'd he ever do to you?  :wink:


:mrgreen:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 05, 2004, 03:07:58 PM
Szuper

Quote
...don't you dare tell me last post-season was all his fault...


There's only one small problem with that. Last year's playoff loss WAS his fault.

And it is consistent with reality to expect the same thing will happen this year if a move isn't made and Lalime is our playoff G. We simply can't expect to beat disciplined trapping teams like NJ when our G lets them get the lead on weak goals, and Lalime WILL do that.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Metalhawk on February 05, 2004, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: lady_stanley
Hey all you PAL and PNAL members. (I'm neutral: I believe in the two-goalie system. How's that for fence-sitting? :))

Well, just because I like stirring things up a bit, how about this article in today's Ottawa Sun about how Martin Brodeur thinks Patty can take us through the playoffs?

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2004/02/04/334978.html


I saw this too. It's got to mean something getting props from the best in the league. Sure hope Lalime can work this through.


It means all the teams in the East and West are looking forward to Ottawa starting Lalime in the playoffs....Their collective mouths are watering :roll: They would probably say the same if we were starting Andre Rasaco SP? (remember him?).


André Racicot? Man, he was brutal.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Whoa! Did my eyes cheat me or has somebody finally decided to grow out of the lame humour and put the thread title back in a more neutral form?


You calling my humour lame, or the title pissed you off and thats why you're calling it lame?  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 03:20:24 PM
Quote from: Metalhawk
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: lady_stanley
Hey all you PAL and PNAL members. (I'm neutral: I believe in the two-goalie system. How's that for fence-sitting? :))

Well, just because I like stirring things up a bit, how about this article in today's Ottawa Sun about how Martin Brodeur thinks Patty can take us through the playoffs?

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/Sports/2004/02/04/334978.html


I saw this too. It's got to mean something getting props from the best in the league. Sure hope Lalime can work this through.


It means all the teams in the East and West are looking forward to Ottawa starting Lalime in the playoffs....Their collective mouths are watering :roll: They would probably say the same if we were starting Andre Rasaco SP? (remember him?).


André Racicot? Man, he was brutal.


His nickname was "Red Light Racicot" :lol: We need a good nickname for Lalime. How about "Lay down Lalime" or "Pucks Past Paddy"?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 08:28:29 PM
Last Saturday when I said something about him playing well after the 1st I jinxed him. So I will say Kidd sucked this time.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 08:29:37 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Last Saturday when I said something about him playing well after the 1st I jinxed him. So I will say Kidd sucked this time.


At least we know one goalie worst that Lalime now :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 05, 2004, 09:20:55 PM
That third goal wasn't a good one, but the other two goals- there's not much he could do for those ones.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 05, 2004, 09:26:31 PM
Dallas, I bet you (now end 2nd) that Kidd is the winning G tonight.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 05, 2004, 09:27:45 PM
Quote
His nickname was "Red Light Racicot"  We need a good nickname for Lalime. How about "Lay down Lalime" or "Pucks Past Paddy"?


I'll affectionately call him "Doppler"
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JustLearning on February 05, 2004, 09:29:55 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Quote
His nickname was "Red Light Racicot"  We need a good nickname for Lalime. How about "Lay down Lalime" or "Pucks Past Paddy"?


I'll affectionately call him "Doppler"
I like 'Doppler'...it has a ring to it
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 05, 2004, 10:08:53 PM
.... ring around the rosie ....
.... score a goal on meeeeeeeeeee!


What the heck was he doing on Sundin's goal --- HELP!!!!!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: docawesome
Last Saturday when I said something about him playing well after the 1st I jinxed him. So I will say Kidd sucked this time.


At least we know one goalie worst that Lalime now :wink:
I guess I'm finally wrong in this thread! :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: jubejubed on February 05, 2004, 10:13:42 PM
I assume doc you'll be changing it back to Lalame? :roll:

Huge Lalime fan here, but not a good night tonight, especially the Sundin goal as thirsty said :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Bonzai on February 05, 2004, 10:13:54 PM
One comment

Lalime has got to go..
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 10:14:13 PM
5 more goals on Lalime...2-3 weak ones two really weak one right through him again and one just like the 3-4 scored on him in the Jersey series last year...top of the circle to the short side. :roll:

Can't wait for the playoffs :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 05, 2004, 10:14:28 PM
:!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

CAN WE GET
SOME
FREAK'IN
GOALTANDING!!!!!!!!!


 :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

I know, I know ... flu, depleted bench, no Redden, guys injured, we were really the B Sens ... start your excuses now!

It's only ONE game!

It was ony three soft goals!

Yeah, yeah WHATEVER!  :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Bonzai on February 05, 2004, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
:!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

CAN WE GET
SOME
FREAK'IN
GOALTANDING!!!!!!!!!


 :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

I know, I know ... flu, depleted bench, no Redden, guys injured, we were really the B Sens ... start your excuses now!

It's only ONE game!

It was ony three soft goals!

Yeah, yeah WHATEVER!  :roll:


agreed

so freaking angry right now... I shall depart until tomorrow.

Lalime has to go.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 10:17:19 PM
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm getting a real comfortable feeling about Lalime backing us to the cup this year :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: humanhighlightreel on February 05, 2004, 10:17:26 PM
I'll say what I always say.... Patrick Lalime, this year, is incapable of playing well for two consecutive games.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on February 05, 2004, 10:18:07 PM
Just trying out my new signature!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 05, 2004, 10:18:10 PM
There is nobody left to defend him because now, surely, everyone agrees he's the WORST starting G in the NHL (by far).

I am now worried that Ottawa might miss the playoffs with this loser in nets.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on February 05, 2004, 10:19:14 PM
I have lost all faith in Lalime. I don't have enough trust in him for him to stop a freaking beachball.

If Martin Prusek doesn't get the start against St. Louis, I'm never watching a Sens game again, for fear of feeling what I'm feeling now.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: amg1 on February 05, 2004, 10:19:37 PM
I agree with tm2000...Lalime MUST GO!!!!
Holy S#$% I am so pissed right now. If I hear Millen say "Lalime wishes he had that one back" I'm going to freak. No way is Lalime playing at an NHL level.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 05, 2004, 10:21:58 PM
Quote from: plcamp
There is nobody left to defend him because now, surely, everyone agrees he's the WORST starting G in the NHL (by far).

I am now worried that Ottawa might miss the playoffs with this loser in nets.


Agreed, the Eastern Conference is waaaaaay to tight to be going through this crap!

What's his GAA in his last 5 starts? Around 4? Yup,

THATS GOING
TO WIN YOU
A FREAK'IN
STANLEY CUP!!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: Bonzai
One comment

Lalime has got to go..


Thank you bones! Nice to have you back as well.

Are you in PAL?  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on February 05, 2004, 10:24:45 PM
This is my last post in this thread because I have had it with Lalime.

He has lost my complete confidence and I'm sure that of many of his teammates.

This was a 4-2 game for Ottawa if we get NHL quality gaoltending.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 10:29:56 PM
Where are the die hards...Lalime 40, Jen40? Who was to blame for the weak goals tonight?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 05, 2004, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: SensSmaq
This is my last post in this thread because I have had it with Lalime.

He has lost my complete confidence and I'm sure that of many of his teammates.

This was a 4-2 game for Ottawa if we get NHL quality gaoltending.


Yeah good idea smaq .. my head will explode if I keep thinking about this!!!!  I think Leschyshyn made more saves tonight than Lalime did!!!  

:flag: :flag:  :flag:  :flag:  :flag:  :flag:  :flag:  :flag:

Guess I'm going to hae lot's of free time in May and June this year!!! :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 10:33:03 PM
Quote from: blackredgo_lden4stan
Just trying out my new signature!!


Looks excellent!  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 10:33:39 PM
Quote from: plcamp
There is nobody left to defend him because now, surely, everyone agrees he's the WORST starting G in the NHL (by far).

I am now worried that Ottawa might miss the playoffs with this loser in nets.


Well said. Trade the bum!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on February 05, 2004, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: blackredgo_lden4stan
Just trying out my new signature!!


Looks excellent!  :wink:


Hopefully it wont have to stay long. I'm actually humiliated by the play of Lalime tonight. I was saying over and over, 'Your not stealing a game for us and you don't have the flu!"
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Bonzai on February 05, 2004, 10:34:31 PM
Quote from: SensSmaq
This is my last post in this thread because I have had it with Lalime.

He has lost my complete confidence and I'm sure that of many of his teammates.

This was a 4-2 game for Ottawa if we get NHL quality gaoltending.


Yep, me too.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 05, 2004, 10:34:36 PM
Oh yeah ... added to my sig ... unfortunately! :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 10:35:25 PM
Where the Lalime lovers?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 05, 2004, 10:37:40 PM
Doc, whatever I said in my last post, just forget it. :wink:

I mean, I like to give goalies the benefit of the doubt, but that's 3 games lost in a row. And tonight, he was in perfect health unlike his teamates who have given a tremendous effort to try to win this game. Lalime just doesn't use the chances that have been given to him this year. As much as I like the guy, he's not what the team needs right now to make the playoffs. Give Prusek and Emery more starts. That's all I'm gonna say. He has it in him to be a good goalie, but he just can't get it out of him consistently this year. He needs either training or counseling.

On a brighter note though, I think Simpson has been playing well tonight. Hehe. It was good having him tussle Nolan (even if he did get a penalty for it). We missed a pest.

The Sens now need a good rest for the All-Star Break and the week-end couldn't  land at a better time. Kinda like a time-out during the bad strech of a game.

And as for the Leafs, I'll say this: you may have won the past two battles now, but we'll see you in April (or maybe sooner than that: don't remember the schedule) and we'll just see who will have the last laugh.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 10:39:19 PM
He cannot keep us in a game. He is not good enough. Period.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 10:39:42 PM

Lalime LOSS 5-3

Prusek WIN 3-1

Lalime LOSS 5-1

Lalime LOSS 2-1

Lalime LOSS 5-4
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 10:41:20 PM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Doc, whatever I said in my last post, just forget it. :wink:

I mean, I like to give goalies the benefit of the doubt, but that's 3 games lost in a row. And tonight, he was in perfect health unlike his teamates who have given a tremendous effort to try to win this game. Lalime just doesn't use the chances that have been given to him this year. As much as I like the guy, he's not what the team needs right now to make the playoffs. Give Prusek and Emery more starts. That's all I'm gonna say. He has it in him to be a good goalie, but he just can't get it out of him consistently this year. He needs either training or counseling.


Welcome aboard.  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 05, 2004, 10:46:54 PM
Ok....

He's a great goalie but can't get it together. He just can't get it together. Love the guy...but time for Prusek.

Something needs to be done. I still have faith in the guy...but right now this is NOT what the team needs. It's the last straw.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 05, 2004, 10:49:57 PM
As much as I like Lalime, he did not get the job done today. I'm disappointed at his effort tonight, he was healthy and his teammates weren't. I don't blame him for the first two goals, but the other 3 are ones he should have stopped and this kind of play is unacceptable. I know the team didn't have a good game, but he wasn't even tested so much tonight in net. Its time for Prusek to get some starts, because I'm starting to not trust Lalime's goaltending in nets of late.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 05, 2004, 10:53:51 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Ok....

He's a great goalie but can't get it together. He just can't get it together. Love the guy...but time for Prusek.

Something needs to be done. I still have faith in the guy...but right now this is NOT what the team needs. It's the last straw.


classy.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on February 05, 2004, 10:54:38 PM
Sorry, Patrick....time to go.  The team can't afford to head into the final stretch watching you deconstruct and costing the team points.  Time to take a seat and figure out another way to find your game.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 05, 2004, 11:21:21 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Ok....

He's a great goalie but can't get it together. He just can't get it together. Love the guy...but time for Prusek.

Something needs to be done. I still have faith in the guy...but right now this is NOT what the team needs. It's the last straw.


Ok, now the "writing is officially on the wall" if Jenn40 agrees then I'm calling Muckler tomorrow to have Lalime removed from further embarassment:wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on February 06, 2004, 12:42:31 AM
Quote from: plcamp
Szuper

Quote
...don't you dare tell me last post-season was all his fault...


There's only one small problem with that. Last year's playoff loss WAS his fault.


I guess it's never ever the defenses fault.  God forbid it's ever Redden o Rachunek's fault.  :roll:

We aren't as deep in defense as people think...today was another great example.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 06, 2004, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: szuperwoman
Quote from: plcamp
Szuper

Quote
...don't you dare tell me last post-season was all his fault...


There's only one small problem with that. Last year's playoff loss WAS his fault.


I guess it's never ever the defenses fault.  God forbid it's ever Redden o Rachunek's fault.  :roll:

We aren't as deep in defense as people think...today was another great example.


Come on you're still with PNAL? Seriosuly he stinks.

Look at PAL membership, you'll be run out of business soon. I will monopolize soon.  :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on February 06, 2004, 12:53:19 AM
You can't exempt everyone from blame because of the injuries but not Lalime.  He got more and more scoring opportunities against and little help (see game tying goal!).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on February 06, 2004, 01:15:40 AM
Do you guys seriously believe that there has been no problems with the defense.  I've seen about 3 games in the last two weeks where the defense has been very weak.  I'm not saying Lalime played amazing, but the defense was very very bad.  And its not a usual characteristic for Ottawa.  We really do not have the depth on the blueline we believe we have.  Perhaps if they were more developed in the NHL, but they are looking flat out there.  No effort.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on February 06, 2004, 06:42:14 AM
all i can say is I am disspointed.

la la la we had the flu. Whatever.

hope something happens over teh allstar break.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 06, 2004, 08:04:30 AM
Wow Dallas,

Looks to me that's there's a consensus in here finally!

NOW who do we pick upon?
Title: Get the sieve out of town !
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 06, 2004, 08:13:24 AM
GET THIS SIEVE OUT OF TOWN BEFORE HE RUINS OUR RUN AT THE CUP !

I mean I like Patty as a stand up person but seriously his time on the ice as a goalie for Senators must be put to an end.

Time to take ol yeller behind the barn before we lose our contention at a cup. I was going to post a bunch of useless stats of other newer goalies out there who are boosting team confidence, etting wins, making big saves, with less defensive talent in front of them but I figured a majority of you already know who they are and I would be wasting my time on a subject that should have ended weeks ago. I mean when will the lovbe affair end with this guy?

Jacques stood up again to say "He is our starter.."
Well I say "Too bad. Winning is what is important in this league, not tenure. " Sometimes I think thats a weakness of Jacques. He is more likely to play the experienced player and not the best player for the job. Look at Prusek. He could be having abanner year as a started but instead he's going for popcorn.... wtf.. Someone has to speak up and put and end to this.

Last night is a perfect example of how useless Lalime has become. The last 3 goals were pathetic. He has absolutley no positioning, no angles, he's just out theier flying by the seat of his pants, his talent being only as good as the amount of luck on his side. Period.

Nolans goal was an unobstructed shot from the top of a circle that was far from what Dean described as a "Blast". When Lalime leaves the nets you can now hear an echo of gasps and mutters of "get back .in there."

The confidence the team and the crowd has is nothing short of what we would ahow a junior b goalie who got called up.

Last night the sick players battled thier asses off, played out of pure desperation, only to get subbed by another Lalime classic red light special. WHen the chips are down, so is our goaltending.

The only good news is that you know mucks is working the phones....

Stop the insanity , this is not what I paid my season ticket money to watch. If we dont deal Lalime were gone first round.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: operasen on February 06, 2004, 08:28:00 AM
He's doing that now Billy.  It seems every shot has become an adventure.  You could hear the collective inhale last night in places as people held their breath.  I half expected the Corel centre to float away a couple of time.  Patrick has lost it here now; much like Schatslivey did.  Its one thing to keep throwing a 4th line LW out there every night - its another thing entirely to have that person as your No1 goaltender.  Patrick will be good for someone; not sure he'll ever win a cup, unless he's with a juggernaut team (but he's supposed to be with one now).  Bondra & Kolzig package deal - done soon - and throw in Gonchar just for fun.  Cost us a player, two prospects and a pick (my opinion).  And I think we can sign Bondra past this year if he works out.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: lady_stanley on February 06, 2004, 08:39:13 AM
Quote from: szuperwoman

We aren't as deep in defense as people think...today was another great example.


I don't think it's fair to judge last night's game. Our top 3 D-men were out. The remaining ones were double-shifted. They did the best they could. Patty let them down. I haven't noticed recent games where the defence was weak, but I didn't watch the Jersey game, which commentators are saying Patty held us in. I'm not saying our D are perfect, but I can't fault them for last night.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: operasen on February 06, 2004, 08:59:59 AM
Pothier impressd me last night.  A poster, tm2k I think, once referred to him as Wade Redden Lite.  Last night he was. and not so Lite either.

Curtis came through too.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 06, 2004, 09:08:06 AM
Quote from: szuperwoman
Quote from: plcamp
Szuper

Quote
...don't you dare tell me last post-season was all his fault...


There's only one small problem with that. Last year's playoff loss WAS his fault.


I guess it's never ever the defenses fault.  God forbid it's ever Redden o Rachunek's fault.  :roll:

We aren't as deep in defense as people think...today was another great example.


Szuper, the mistake you are making here is that the series was lost in game 7 with two minutes to go. I wasn't --- it was lost in game 4 with an absolutely brutal performance by Lalime which deflated what was probably one of the best games played by the rest of the team. Lalime lost that series, Chechmanek lost the series for Philly and we beat the NYI with a pretty good all-round effort.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 06, 2004, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: TrentBlue
You can't exempt everyone from blame because of the injuries but not Lalime.  He got more and more scoring opportunities against and little help (see game tying goal!).


Actually the game tying goal is a perfect example ... Kaberle couldn't have drawn a JR.B goalie out of the crease the way Lalime came out --- BRUTAL I SAY --- BRUTAL!!!!!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on February 06, 2004, 09:19:54 AM
That game 7, game winning goal started with Havlat.  I believe Rachunek went for the wrong man and that opened a space for Friesen (damn Friesen!).

Yes, Ottawa had three defenseman out, and that's why I said, we aren't as deep in the blueline as we think we are.  There will be injuries in the playoffs, by the look of it, a lot...Ottawa has to learn to win without Chara, etc.  So far, they have not proven it.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 06, 2004, 09:22:49 AM
Quote from: szuperwoman
Do you guys seriously believe that there has been no problems with the defense.  I've seen about 3 games in the last two weeks where the defense has been very weak.  I'm not saying Lalime played amazing, but the defense was very very bad.  And its not a usual characteristic for Ottawa.  We really do not have the depth on the blueline we believe we have.  Perhaps if they were more developed in the NHL, but they are looking flat out there.  No effort.



I agree with what Pierre McGuire said this morning about this very topic. He said the rest of the team is scared right now -- they are very nervous playing in front of Lalime because "every shot is an adventure and they know that they have to pay perfect!"

Look at how relaxed the team is in front of Prusek -- they play their system to a 't' ... look at them in front of Lalime --- there is a very noticable difference. He has totally lost the confidence of the other players -- no matter what they say in public.

Here's an anology. You're given a group class project --- three good students and the class wanker. How much confidence are you going to have giving important tasks to the wanker? None! You aren't going to risk a lower mark. Right now Lalime is a Wanker and anybody without their head buried in the sand knows it!

And as lady said --- you can not seriously in any way be complaining about the defence last night! Chara out, Redden out, Ruchunek left, Hnidy had the flu (and still played one of his better games), Leschyshyn was a monster last night, and Simpson was alright he still has to learn the system, and Pothier had the flu. And even if you did --- it shouldn't negate the fact that there were three soft goals put in the back of the net.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 06, 2004, 09:24:09 AM
Quote from: plcamp
Wow Dallas,

Looks to me that's there's a consensus in here finally!

NOW who do we pick upon?


Our work here is done. How about Jacques Martin? He has been a little inconsistant lately? :wink:

Campy,

I guess were just a little quicker than most...how long have we been at this....a long time before this thread even started. :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on February 06, 2004, 09:25:35 AM
Did you not listen to what I said about the defense?  
People always say Ottawa has such depth in defense.  Even if 3 defensman are out.  Ottawa does not have as much depth as we thought.  The entire OT period was played in the Ottawa end.
Title: Re: Get the sieve out of town !
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 06, 2004, 09:27:47 AM
Quote from: Billy_Muckwalt
Stop the insanity , this is not what I paid my season ticket money to watch. If we dont deal Lalime were gone first round.



First round billy? I think even making the playoffs is in Jeopardy right now -- look at the standings --- the Eastern Conference is very tight!  :(

Something has to change --- NOW! Time is quickly running out.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on February 06, 2004, 09:29:10 AM
Quote from: plcamp
Wow Dallas,

Looks to me that's there's a consensus in here finally!

NOW who do we pick upon?


it's terrible isn't it. I am very saddened. All I can do is hope but he's not helping me much with that.

I still like him.....but man...it's getting hard to stick up for him.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 06, 2004, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: szuperwoman
Did you not listen to what I said about the defense?  
People always say Ottawa has such depth in defense.  Even if 3 defensman are out.  Ottawa does not have as much depth as we thought.  The entire OT period was played in the Ottawa end.


Szuper, its not even that three guys were out ... they were playing down defencemen and the ones that were playing were on a merry-go-round to the trash cans under the stands to puke their guts out.

Hnidy (flu) played 20:00
Pothier (flu) played 28:41
Rachunek --- left the game
Leschyshyn --- 23:25
Simpson -- 18:29
Phillips -- 25:39

You can't seriously be complaining about the defence last night!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 06, 2004, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: Toronto Sun
Ottawa dominated the first 30 minutes and, usually, a four-goal bulge would have been enough. But Mr. Inconsistent, Patrick Lalime, let down his teammates after the Leafs' Trevor Kidd had a difficult time getting a grasp on his performance.

Link (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040206/nhl_tor-sun.html)


People are calling in to the morning show --- hillarious! One guy blamed the loss on Bonk because he didn't stop 'two guys goin gthrough the zone' (Bonk was even on the night BTW), so totally disregarding the Sens system they play -- it is still a very dumb comment!

One guy phoned in with the -why is everyone so upset it's only one game -- he played well for us in the playoffs last year take.

Ask 29 other teams in this league right now --- none will asy that they are afraid of playing against Lalime --- they would love to be able to come in here and play against us right now!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on February 06, 2004, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: Toronto Sun
Ottawa dominated the first 30 minutes and, usually, a four-goal bulge would have been enough. But Mr. Inconsistent, Patrick Lalime, let down his teammates after the Leafs' Trevor Kidd had a difficult time getting a grasp on his performance.

Link (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040206/nhl_tor-sun.html)


People are calling in to the morning show --- hillarious! One guy blamed the loss on Bonk because he didn't stop 'two guys goin gthrough the zone' (Bonk was even on the night BTW), so totally disregarding the Sens system they play -- it is still a very dumb comment!

One guy phoned in with the -why is everyone so upset it's only one game -- he played well for us in the playoffs last year take.

Ask 29 other teams in this league right now --- none will asy that they are afraid of playing against Lalime --- they would love to be able to come in here and play against us right now!


everyone now knows, that if you can hang in there, you will get a timely soft goal against him. I have really had enough of this guy.

ZERO TOLERANCE...
no more benefit of the doubt...
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY, #40?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 06, 2004, 11:06:16 AM
I feel a long post coming on...I think I might start a new thread for it though. So people here can hear me make a grand speach to the masses. ;) I feel I probably ought to explain myself at this point anyway. Should I do it? Would you read it?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on February 06, 2004, 11:08:22 AM
Quote
Should I do it? Would you read it?


Do it, now that it's the morning after and the emotions aren't running so hard. Heck, I almost started a thread titled "Kill Lalime" last night.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 06, 2004, 11:50:28 AM
Jenn, why would yopu even ask - when you KNOW how much I woudl enjoy a long post from you?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 06, 2004, 11:53:58 AM
I guess you won the bet early plcamp. :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 06, 2004, 12:00:44 PM
Thank you Jenn, you're a good sport.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: lady_stanley on February 06, 2004, 12:04:39 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: szuperwoman
Did you not listen to what I said about the defense?  
People always say Ottawa has such depth in defense.  Even if 3 defensman are out.  Ottawa does not have as much depth as we thought.  The entire OT period was played in the Ottawa end.


Szuper, its not even that three guys were out ... they were playing down defencemen and the ones that were playing were on a merry-go-round to the trash cans under the stands to puke their guts out.

Hnidy (flu) played 20:00
Pothier (flu) played 28:41
Rachunek --- left the game
Leschyshyn --- 23:25
Simpson -- 18:29
Phillips -- 25:39

You can't seriously be complaining about the defence last night!


Thanks, thirsty, you took the words out of my mouth! (or keyboard, at least).

May I also remind you, szuper, that Volchenkov is out, and is expected back for the playoffs if we need him. But you know what? I don't think we'll need him since we have so much depth on D, he'd only be needed if we had injuries to our D. And if we're really stuck, we can call up Vauclair from Bingo to warm up the bench. I'm not worried at all about D. Now goaltending... ahem....

Don't worry, after the break, our top 3 D-men will be back and this thread will be but a hint of a glint in your eye...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on February 06, 2004, 12:04:58 PM
:(
Quote
I guess you won the bet early plcamp.  
 
 
   

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Thank you Jenn, you're a good sport.
 
unfortunately we all lose.... no glee here. :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 06, 2004, 12:09:52 PM
:(

Thanks plcamp.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: work2play on February 06, 2004, 12:13:31 PM
Patrick was BRUTAL last night.  Played better against the Devils (but still let in a soft goal).  Those that say Patrick held us in the Devils game must have had a different NHL Centre Ice feed than I did  :wink:   Go back to the Stars game and again Patrick was BRUTAL.  

To those that have said the rest of the team didn't look good, consider that these (Dallas, NJ & Toronto) are three of the better teams in the NHL.  Not likely that we are going to walk all over them the way we can with the weaker teams.  These are exactly the games that we NEED our goaltending to step up and play well in  :!:   That means NO SOFT GOALS :!:

When Lalime was outplayed by Cujo two years in a row in the playoffs I said we needed better goaltending, but I also had hope that the better goaltending could come from Patrick as he matured.  After last years conference final I again said we needed better goaltending to win a cup.  This was Patrick's year to prove that his development was heading in that direction.  Well he's only gotten worse  :!:   I coached midget goalies with better positionng  :shock:   Any scoring chance where the shooter has any kind of time and the pucks in the net because Patrick ALWAYS flinches first and ALWAYS goes down in the process.  

Without the soft goals against we beat Dallas, tie the Devils and beat the Leafs last night.  That's 4 points he has cost us in the last eight days :!:  The Sens are 4 points out of first place, in spite of inferior goaltending. Each time you look at the standings and see the Sens in the middle of the pack, thank Patrick  :roll:

Note to Mr. Muckler:  Get an N.H.L. calibre goaltender by the trade deadline or expect to see the team on the golf course early this spring  :arrow:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 06, 2004, 03:09:47 PM
Sad part of this whole thing is, I bet Jacques Martin starts lalime for the whole month of Feb. With, of course, the same results.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: work2play on February 06, 2004, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Sad part of this whole thing is, I bet Jacques Martin starts lalime for the whole month of Feb. With, of course, the same results.


Much as we all may wish for a change in net, DSF is probably right :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 06, 2004, 03:33:55 PM
I seriously doubt JM has full control of that decision.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JustLearning on February 06, 2004, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Sad part of this whole thing is, I bet Jacques Martin starts lalime for the whole month of Feb. With, of course, the same results.
The only consolation is that February is a short month but still, that's 11 more games :?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 06, 2004, 05:42:04 PM
I'm so sad.

Now that everyone agrees Lalime sucks, I have nothing left to do!

What will become of me?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on February 06, 2004, 05:45:18 PM
Hope Lalime gets better ;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on February 06, 2004, 05:46:29 PM
Quote
What will become of me?


Whither away and die?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 06, 2004, 10:54:31 PM
The Score just showed a stat ... Lalime's Save Pct is 35th in the league. How many teams are there? How many starters? Oh, that doesn't look very good.

Habs are now only 3 pts behind us --- are we even going to make it to the playoffs? FORE!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 06, 2004, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
The Score just showed a stat ... Lalime's Save Pct is 35th in the league. How many teams are there? How many starters? Oh, that doesn't look very good.

Habs are now only 3 pts behind us --- are we even going to make it to the playoffs? FORE!


 :wink:

Not only is he behind all good and bad starters, he's also behind a few backups, while playing for the 2nd best defencive hockey club in the NHL. Good job.

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lepi on February 06, 2004, 11:16:42 PM
Ive never had input on this thread before until now.
I have always thoguht that Lalime would be streaky throughout the season but this bad streak he his in now is really hurting us. He is holding the rest of the team back. The offense is putting numbers up and he can't do his part.

oh well... nothing will come of it since im pretty sure he will finish the season as our starter but i would think that prusek will get more starts.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Bonzai on February 06, 2004, 11:29:10 PM
Quote from: plcamp
I'm so sad.

Now that everyone agrees Lalime sucks, I have nothing left to do!

What will become of me?
'

He's not gone yet...Your job is still important until...However, in lieu of other work we really need a good sweep and floor washing  so get on it will ya.  Since you have nothing to do now... :D  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Bonzai on February 06, 2004, 11:30:37 PM
Quote from: Lepi
Ive never had input on this thread before until now.
I have always thoguht that Lalime would be streaky throughout the season but this bad streak he his in now is really hurting us. He is holding the rest of the team back. The offense is putting numbers up and he can't do his part.

oh well... nothing will come of it since im pretty sure he will finish the season as our starter but i would think that prusek will get more starts.


His bad streak has lasted for over 3 months...How much longer.

Cheers
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JustLearning on February 07, 2004, 12:28:48 AM
Quote from: Bonzai
Quote from: Lepi
Ive never had input on this thread before until now.
I have always thoguht that Lalime would be streaky throughout the season but this bad streak he his in now is really hurting us. He is holding the rest of the team back. The offense is putting numbers up and he can't do his part.

oh well... nothing will come of it since im pretty sure he will finish the season as our starter but i would think that prusek will get more starts.
His bad streak has lasted for over 3 months...How much longer.

Cheers
Unfortunately, I think his bad streak has now officially turned into a rut :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 07, 2004, 01:12:33 AM
I'm reading the thread all over. Currently, on page 9.

The biggest highlite:

Quote
Would the season just start already, otherwise we're going to kill each other before we see the home-opener...


It turned out pretty good for everybody. :mrgreen:

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Metalhawk on February 07, 2004, 02:21:55 AM
Quote from: docawesome
I'm reading the thread all over. Currently, on page 9.


Man, you must be bored! :)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 07, 2004, 02:36:49 AM
Quote from: Metalhawk
Quote from: docawesome
I'm reading the thread all over. Currently, on page 9.


Man, you must be bored! :)


No hockey, football, or baseball. And basketball sucks.

Girlfriend at some babyshower.

Studying or Gym are no option. Went down to the gym and pulled something, screw it I'm not going back.

Would help if they oiled the damn door.   :? :mrgreen:

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 07, 2004, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: docawesome
I'm reading the thread all over. Currently, on page 9.

The biggest highlite:

Quote
Would the season just start already, otherwise we're going to kill each other before we see the home-opener...


It turned out pretty good for everybody. :mrgreen:

Doc


Please post just how right I was :wink:  I think I suggested we replace Lalime last May or June. I seem to remember you thinking I was just NUTS and suggested Lalime was as good if not better than CuJo? I can't remember the exact words but since your reading the whole thread let me know :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 07, 2004, 01:37:22 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: docawesome
I'm reading the thread all over. Currently, on page 9.

The biggest highlite:

Quote
Would the season just start already, otherwise we're going to kill each other before we see the home-opener...


It turned out pretty good for everybody. :mrgreen:

Doc


Please post just how right I was :wink:  I think I suggested we replace Lalime last May or June. I seem to remember you thinking I was just NUTS and suggested Lalime was as good if not better than CuJo? I can't remember the exact words but since your reading the whole thread let me know :wink:


Actually we had some good battles me and you in the first 10 pages, or so. Some even called you a troll and asked me to get the 'ignore feature' lol.

Doing my best to avoid your 1st sentence 8)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 07, 2004, 04:14:01 PM
Hah! I was probably one of those. I had patience and tried to defend Lalime back on Oct/Nov ... then he just kept chipping away at my confidence until I could no longer defend him and now to the point where I attack his play and right to be a starter on this team.

I think there are quite a number of us that have taken that route.
Title: YO
Post by: JAY-MAN on February 07, 2004, 04:20:17 PM
thats what happened with me, I liked him, still like him, tried to deffend him, but he keeps doing poorly!  maybe its like Theodore in montreal!   had a bad year last year, but now look at him!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on February 07, 2004, 04:21:10 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Hah! I was probably one of those. I had patience and tried to defend Lalime back on Oct/Nov ... then he just kept chipping away at my confidence until I could no longer defend him and now to the point where I attack his play and right to be a starter on this team.

I think there are quite a number of us that have taken that route.


sadly yet proudly, a member of PAL, I cant even say his name anymore I get so angry, to me he's just a number on a jersey... damn #40  :x
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 07, 2004, 04:23:07 PM
I used to defend him too. Many used to defend him, and we labeled plcamp and Dallasfan as trolls.
Title: The irony
Post by: SSF on February 07, 2004, 05:00:14 PM
the  irony of an internet message boarde is that if someone doesn't share a popular, misguided opinion, then they are "Trolls'

I  have suffered with this on other boards, many a time. Ive been prove nright countless times (while being wrong at other points) and now that many of the things i have been proclaiming for years now  has finally come around to those who were against me at first. Its pretty ironic actually.

It takes persistence to maintain your position but when people see where you are coming from eventually, it looks good on you to retain a constant opinion and not waiver with the ups and downs of the season and years.
Title: Re: The irony
Post by: Docawesome on February 07, 2004, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: SSF
the  irony of an internet message boarde is that if someone doesn't share a popular, misguided opinion, then they are "Trolls'

I  have suffered with this on other boards, many a time. Ive been prove nright countless times (while being wrong at other points) and now that many of the things i have been proclaiming for years now  has finally come around to those who were against me at first. Its pretty ironic actually.

It takes persistence to maintain your position but when people see where you are coming from eventually, it looks good on you to retain a constant opinion and not waiver with the ups and downs of the season and years.


Yes but you have to say it the right way especially on a board of an opposing team. Even if you're right there's also 'baiting' whick means you just put your point there to piss people off and start a flame war.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 07, 2004, 11:17:46 PM
Last one out shut off the lights...
C'mon guys he's playing like a young Hasek.... ;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: GoHawksGo on February 07, 2004, 11:25:15 PM
But has Lalime faltered yet in the playoffs?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 07, 2004, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: GoHawksGo
But has Lalime faltered yet in the playoffs?


Ummmmm, yes he has. Did you see game 4 in the Jersey series? 'Nuff said.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 08, 2004, 12:12:08 AM
Quote from: Slam!
Ottawa fans are shifting into full panic mode.

 Is it warranted?

 Yup.

 Lalime has now lost his last four starts and has surrendered a total of five goals in three of those games. The bottom line: He has given up 17 goals on 105 shots in that stretch.

 That's an .838 save percentage.

 The numbers are bad enough. If you still aren't convinced, you only have to watch the replays of the last three goals against the Leafs to know Lalime is a long way from being the goaltender he was last spring for the Senators in the playoffs.

It's not like this is a new trend, either.

 Lalime is having a subpar season. There is no point in making the grand save -- of which Lalime is still capable -- if it is followed later at a crucial time by a soft goal.

 That is the crux of what ails Lalime now -- consistency.

 He has shown -- as he did in the playoffs against the Philadelphia Flyers the last two springs -- that he is capable of giving the Senators the type of elite goaltending needed to challenge for a Stanley Cup.

 The challenge facing Lalime and the Senators' coaching staff now is finding that game and bringing it out of him on a nightly basis.

 Senators coach Jacques Martin told The Team 1200 yesterday that he is hoping the all-star break will do Lalime good and the goaltender can "refocus and come back stronger than ever."

Link (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040207/nhl_lalime1-sun.html)

Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 08, 2004, 12:15:37 AM
Quote from: Slam!
Martin backs his backstopper

Ottawa coach says team hasn't 'lost confidence' in Lalime as No. 1

MINNEAPOLIS --  A year ago, Patrick Lalime played like an all-star at the NHL's festivities in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

 This season, he's played like an also-ran.

  But Senators coach Jacques Martin told the Sun yesterday that he's standing behind the club's embattled No. 1 goalie and that the organization is hopeful a break will help Lalime's confidence.

 "We haven't lost confidence (in Lalime)," said Martin, who won't decide until Monday whether Lalime or Martin Prusek will start Tuesday against the Blues at home. "We feel he's the guy who can get the job done for us."

Link (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040207/nhl_lalime2-sun.html)

 
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on February 08, 2004, 02:08:22 AM
My God, what does it take for Martin's confidence to falter in this guy, 20 goals on 20 shots?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Metalhawk on February 08, 2004, 02:10:52 AM
Quote from: interzone
My God, what does it take for Martin's confidence to falter in this guy, 20 goals on 20 shots?


Looks like it.  :evil:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on February 08, 2004, 02:42:27 AM
You can't slag a goaltender under fire publicly.  Martin especially won't, which is a big reason he is still being tuned in.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Bonzai on February 08, 2004, 08:11:40 AM
Quote from: OS
You can't slag a goaltender under fire publicly.  Martin especially won't, which is a big reason he is still being tuned in.


Yep.  But guarantee he is concerned about this extended slump and if things don't happen soon. like the first few games after the all star game then something might be done.  It sounds eerily like the dreaded 'vote of confidence' coaches often get a week before they are fired.... :D

Cheers
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 08, 2004, 09:15:59 AM
Sounds like a GM telling a coach after a 5-15-0 start that his job is secure :roll:  I sure hope this is what it really is, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lalime is still in the net in May and is still letting in the soft ones. As Plcamp says " Keep doing the exact same thing and hoping for different results" time to change things up, but don't hold your breath :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: lady_stanley on February 08, 2004, 11:43:51 AM
After what JM said in the Sun yesterday, I'm 100% certain he will start Patty on Tuesday against the Blues. As others have said, he's very loyal to players and wants to give Patty a chance. I am so sure that he will start Lalime, I'm willing to bet that if he doesn't, I will write a 300-word essay on why Lalime is better than Prusek and will use for the month of March an avatar of your choosing... no, wait, that won't work....

Seriously, though, JM has a stubborn streak. He refused to play Spezza in the playoffs until we were facing elimination. His loyalty to Jody Hull was puzzling. And now, so it seems, is his loyalty to Lalime.

If Patty starts (which I do think he will) and does poorly, I wouldn't be surprised if JM pulls him for Prusek to ensure a win. I know this would be a blow to Patty's confidence, but we need all the points we can get right now. The East is a beast and very tight.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 08, 2004, 12:13:42 PM
It's not surprising for JM. To tell you the truth, I was expecting that kind of speech. You'd never hear JM publicly doubting one of his players, and that is why I think he earns respect from the players in general. That said, I hope he starts Prusek on Tuesday though. I know he's trying to do what everybody has given up on just to prove us wrong but when your goalie doesn't get the job done and when your no. 2 is more than able to hold a game (same thing with Spezza and Jody Hull last year), you've got to give it up. It's one thing trying to give players a chance, but it's another trying  stubbornly to pull out of them what they can't or don't want to deliver and that's where you just have to give up and choose an easier option.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 08, 2004, 12:19:56 PM
JM on The TML's..

"There a tough opponent"

DOnt look for anything meaningful from JM's press meetings. He's protecting the "inner sanctum" of the country club.

He might as well have a media ban, I am used to it now, but he's a drone. He might as well just tape his default win and lose speach followed by the default answers we have already heard 500 times, and put up a cardboard cut out of himself and just automate this.

For the record I do think hes a great coach for the most part. How could you not.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Paddy on February 08, 2004, 01:06:39 PM
What I find frustrating is that for the past month now we've been told that we need to play Lalime more and more so he can return to form. Now were told that the All Star break is just what he needs to get back on track.

What I also find hard to understand is the reluctance to play Prusek. All he does is stop the puck and win. I don't care how old he is or what style he plays, he wins for crying outloud. Give him a chance!!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on February 08, 2004, 01:30:02 PM
The logic that you must play a guy more because that's the only way he'll recover from his disastrously poor performance is ludicrous.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 08, 2004, 02:10:59 PM
Prusek: .928 %
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Metalhawk on February 08, 2004, 02:25:08 PM
Even worse, it took John Muckler ordering Jacques to put Spezza in the line-up in game 5. Funny enough, Jason has never been left out since.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 08, 2004, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: plcamp
The logic that you must play a guy more because that's the only way he'll recover from his disastrously poor performance is ludicrous.


The logic initially behind it was playing him more would bring back his confidence by letting hime "find his game". Instead I think it's had the exact opposite effect. It's pretty much destroyed any there was.

That's why I think it's time to start Prusek. For the good of the team AND Lalime. Letting Lalime suffer and costing us more points just makes no sense.
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Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 08, 2004, 08:11:54 PM
Quote from: plcamp
The logic that you must play a guy more because that's the only way he'll recover from his disastrously poor performance is ludicrous.


Thing is with this logic is that there's a 50% chance it could bring back the goalie's confidence when everyone has given up on him but there's another 50% chance that it won't solve the problem. Right now, the second turn of events is the direct consequence of that strategy. We need to see how Prusek does during a couple of games in a row: now has never been a better time for him to be able to shine.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 08, 2004, 11:54:11 PM
There was an article about Alfredsson commenting on Lalime's play. I was just posting it in case anyone was just interested in reading it.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040208/nhl_ott-sun.html
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"I know he's gone through some tough times and he hasn't played as well as everybody expects him to play. But I have no question in my mind that he's going to get back on his game and play the way he's capable."
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Post by: lady_stanley on February 09, 2004, 08:26:58 AM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
There was an article about Alfredsson commenting on Lalime's play.  


This is the typical class that Alfie displays. It's obvious to anyone, even a monkey (right, Jobo?), that Lalime has been playing very poorly lately. Yet Alfie takes the heat off him by saying something like: "We've got to play better defensively and give up less chances to hold the lead."

I made this point on the thread a while back by some non-Alfie fans who claimed he lacked leadership. I pointed out that time and time again, he's quoted as taking blame for losses in which he plays extremely well. (And when the team wins, he never takes credit.) He also sticks up for his teammates, even when they let him down. That is leadership.

Anyway, because this attitude is typical of Alfie, I wouldn't read too much into it in this article. I would bet that under the surface, Alfie and the rest of the players are concerned.
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Post by: plcamp on February 09, 2004, 12:22:56 PM
At some point REAL leadership would force Alfie to say 'rest him for 20 games' or something like that - because that's what this team needs.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 09, 2004, 06:13:35 PM
Quote from: plcamp
At some point REAL leadership would force Alfie to say 'rest him for 20 games' or something like that - because that's what this team needs.


Nevermind the team, that's what Lalime needs.

I fear if they start him tomorrow infront of the home crowd, whatever tiny shred of confidence he has left will be completely gone. I just don't see what good can come of it. Both mentally for the entire team, and in the standings.

Just play Prusek.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 09, 2004, 06:48:46 PM
Knowing that Jacques will start Patrick tomorrow, I think Prusek should been the starter for this game against St. Louis. I'm not expecting too much out of Lalime. His play will speak for itself tomorrow, if he does great- than that'll be awesome. If he is bad- then well, that's bad and Prusek should start the game after St. Louis.
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Post by: interzone on February 09, 2004, 06:50:55 PM
Quote
Knowing that Jacques will start Patrick tomorrow, I think Prusek should been the starter for this game against St. Louis. I'm not expecting too much out of Lalime.


It makes sense starting Lalime, despite the fact that he's been awful, because the game after St. Louis is Boston, and Prusek should play against the Bruins because he's unbeaten this season against them.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 09, 2004, 06:52:15 PM
Quote from: interzone

It makes sense starting Lalime, despite the fact that he's been awful, because the game after St. Louis is Boston, and Prusek should play against the Bruins because he's unbeaten this season against them.


I didn't realize the game after St. Louis was Boston. Then Prusek should start against Boston, I agree.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 09, 2004, 08:29:55 PM
What Lalime is starting?!?

God, I hope not. Like Jenn said, whatever confidence he has left will be gone infront of the home crowd especially if he lets in goals the 1st.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 09, 2004, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: docawesome
What Lalime is starting?!?

God, I hope not. Like Jenn said, whatever confidence he has left will be gone infront of the home crowd especially if he lets in goals the 1st.


I also hope the crowd is smart enough NOT to boo him. Would make matters worse. If you have displeasure - fine. Most of us do. However, I would rather him being supported than rattled. If he's rattled = loss. Hopefully common sense will prevail. If he is gonna play - he's gonna need lots of encouragement.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 09, 2004, 10:18:27 PM
Maybe the Corel Centre crowd shout a little cheer at Patrick if he makes a great save, they could say: Go Patty Go! LOL.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 09, 2004, 10:28:45 PM
Ian Medes reprting Lalime start v Blues and Prusek v Bruins. Jacques says because Prusek has played well againt them this season.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 09, 2004, 10:34:07 PM
It makes sense. Prusek has been very good against the Bruins this year so its makes sense to start him when the Sens play the Bruins. Lalime against the Blues makes sense to me, I just hope that Lalime doesn't stink up another game, because my faith in him having a good game these days is diminishing.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 09, 2004, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: docawesome
What Lalime is starting?!?

God, I hope not. Like Jenn said, whatever confidence he has left will be gone infront of the home crowd especially if he lets in goals the 1st.


I also hope the crowd is smart enough NOT to boo him. Would make matters worse. If you have displeasure - fine. Most of us do. However, I would rather him being supported than rattled. If he's rattled = loss. Hopefully common sense will prevail. If he is gonna play - he's gonna need lots of encouragement.


They won't boo him, but they will cheer him more than usual in a sarcastic way (ala The Bronx cheer). Every save he makes will be followed with a 'Yaaaaaay'.

Doc
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 09, 2004, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
It makes sense. Prusek has been very good against the Bruins this year so its makes sense to start him when the Sens play the Bruins. Lalime against the Blues makes sense to me, I just hope that Lalime doesn't stink up another game, because my faith in him having a good game these days is diminishing.


Sportsnet was saying the Blues have only won 2 of their last 10 games ....

.... if we lose this one it just may get a little ugly on this thread! ;)
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Post by: GoHawksGo on February 09, 2004, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Quote from: sens_fan_6
It makes sense. Prusek has been very good against the Bruins this year so its makes sense to start him when the Sens play the Bruins. Lalime against the Blues makes sense to me, I just hope that Lalime doesn't stink up another game, because my faith in him having a good game these days is diminishing.


Sportsnet was saying the Blues have only won 2 of their last 10 games ....

.... if we lose this one it just may get a little ugly on this thread! ;)


Not necessarily.  The Blues won their last game before the break, and look like they'll be willing to bounce back.  I think the All-Star break is a time for teams to change the way they're playing.  But who knows?  Maybe St. Louis will lose, and perhaps even miss the playoffs.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 09, 2004, 11:35:32 PM
I have always supported Lalime, and I liked Jenns idea, or if it wasnt hers, whoever said cheer for Patty, he needs support when he is down, not more bad.  that way we can help him back to the game we know he can play, and the game that he can play to get us to the Stanley cup
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 10, 2004, 12:44:22 AM
Quote from: JAY-MAN
I have always supported Lalime, and I liked Jenns idea, or if it wasnt hers, whoever said cheer for Patty, he needs support when he is down, not more bad.  that way we can help him back to the game we know he can play, and the game that he can play to get us to the Stanley cup


Exactly. Even though he hasn't been doing his best goaltending of late, the crowd needs to keep showing their support. It could help Lalime in regaining his confidence.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 01:13:13 AM
Quote from: JAY-MAN
the game that he can play to get us to the Stanley cup


He can't. He doesn't have that kind of game. Our team d can though, they will cover for his many shortcomings. So if we get to the finals --a long shot with him in nets-- it won't be because of his play.

Doc
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 10, 2004, 01:32:33 AM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: JAY-MAN
the game that he can play to get us to the Stanley cup


He can't. He doesn't have that kind of game. Our team d can though, they will cover for his many shortcomings. So if we get the the finals -and thats a long shot with him in nets-- it won't because of his play.

Doc


Not neccessarily, Doc. He was excellent two years ago in the playoffs and even last year. I think Lalime tends to be more of a playoff type of goaltender. Some goalies are like that.

Even the goalies who achieved cup wins didn't get it done all by themselves, it takes a whole team to win a cup.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 10, 2004, 06:59:18 AM
yea, Lalime is a great playoff goalie (so far). check his playoff stats. Find out how far he has gotten us compared to other tender's we have had for the playoffs.

saying he isnt' a good playoff goalie isn't any better than me saying he's been playing awesome the last 3 months, which we all know he's not been.

if we make it to the playoffs and into them a bit, it will be because of Lalime's help, not inspite of him. We all just saw what happens when Lalime is haveing a bad game. Regardless of if our D is on or not, if Patty is off we are lost. You can not possibly say we will win in spite of him. You know darn well we can't if he's not on his game.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 10, 2004, 07:29:47 AM
I dont get JM...

First off he says, they key to Patrick building his confidence back is to get more ice time and to stay active in the net ( Play through it, a break wont do him any good)

Now he saying, "Patty's had 4 days off, he's had a break... " meaning
( A break will have done him good ..)

Well, what is it? I think a break will do him good, a loonnggg break. He can watch Prusek, who his hot, get back the wins this team deserves. No team as hard working as our sens deserves to have the legs swept out from under them by a sub par goalie. This season is turning into a peraonal training camp for Lalime to find "His game". When "His game" is results in a stinkin' 4.25 GA in the past 5 games.

WTF, this wouldn't be Jacques playing the politics would it? LOL, I love it.
They dont know what to do with Lalime, and as far as I am concerned he's setting himself up to be traded.
Patsy Lalime...



For all of you defending Lalime:

All this would end if he would just stop the puck on a consistent basis. No goalie has a 1000 save %, but the best goalies are the consistent ones (no kidding ). I dont think we are going to get this consistency, ever, from Lalime.

This season is already a horrible one for Lalime. If he turns it around, fine, but this is still going to leave a mark on him.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 10, 2004, 07:36:56 AM
good luck Lalime.
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Post by: OS on February 10, 2004, 09:31:58 AM
Wish JM had played Prusek against T.O. and let Lalime go into the break with the Devil's game under his belt and a nice long break.

It's funny that at any other position a player is held accountable if they are playing bad by reducing their ice time, but for a goalie your supposed to keep running them out there.....
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 12:46:27 PM
This is Lalime's last chance. I understand why Muckler and Martin want him in net today. The trade deadline is less than a month away, and they want to see if a deal is necessary. So, Lalime this is your last straw.

Doc
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Post by: operasen on February 10, 2004, 12:50:52 PM
I don't think you are too far wrong with that thought doc.  maybe not a one game take it or leave it scenario; but certainly a 5 gamer - and for both of them.  If there is to be a trade for a goalie, I would expect it to be a big one and not just  a Giguere or Kolzig type.

Where's your PAL footer - Jenn worked her magic and changed your mind?
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 01:06:52 PM
Quote from: operasen
I don't think you are too far wrong with that thought doc.  maybe not a one game take it or leave it scenario; but certainly a 5 gamer - and for both of them.  


Thats what I meant. I didn't mean a 1 game thing. The deadline is less than a month away, so his 5-game (or 6, whatever) should come as early as possible so Muckler has enough of time to decide.


Quote
Where's your PAL footer - Jenn worked her magic and changed your mind?


Look at my 1st post in this page.  :wink:
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 10, 2004, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: Billy_Muckwalt
Now he saying, "Patty's had 4 days off, he's had a break... " meaning
( A break will have done him good ..)


Maybe he meant he had a rest that didn't harm his confidence --- because he wasn't a scratch?
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Post by: GoHawksGo on February 10, 2004, 01:22:11 PM
Yeah, I think the break definitely benefits Lalime, but it may have also gotten the Blues on the right track.  The All-Star break could be used by teams to prepare for that final stretch.  This is when things get serious.

Were the Sens really 29-2 after the break last year?  I heard it on Sportsnet...  :shock:
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 10, 2004, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: GoHawksGo
Yeah, I think the break definitely benefits Lalime, but it may have also gotten the Blues on the right track.  The All-Star break could be used by teams to prepare for that final stretch.  This is when things get serious.

Were the Sens really 29-2 after the break last year?  I heard it on Sportsnet...  :shock:


Nope. They lost on March 15, 16 and 28, among others.
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Post by: GoHawksGo on February 10, 2004, 03:38:10 PM
LOL, you know what, I think I misheard it.

20-9-2.

This would make more sense.

Still pretty incredible.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: GoHawksGo
LOL, you know what, I think I misheard it.

20-9-2.

This would make more sense.

Still pretty incredible.



It was 20-7-2-0.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 10, 2004, 06:07:40 PM
If Lalime has a good game- good, yet I'm not going to my hopes too high because what if he stinks it up his next start.

If Lalime has played well in at least 2 straight games. Then I'll be pleased. HOWEVER, I still won't get my hopes too high.

If his excellent play goes more than 3 games, then I'll finally feel that Patrick has regained his confidence and has gotten back to the way all the Sens fans like to see him be- the goaltender making the needed saves.

If he doesn't play well tonight, then Prusek should be the #1 for  awhile and Lalime stays on the bench as the backup- that's the way it goes.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 08:17:58 PM
Lalime was not tested at all. St. Louis had zero scoring chances in the 1st.
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Post by: plcamp on February 10, 2004, 08:23:58 PM
OK, just before the game they had a quick 'who's the hottest G' list, and this is the top 5

5 - Roloson
4 - Theodore
3 - Raycroft
2 - Brodeur
1 - Belfour
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: plcamp
OK, just before the game they had a quick 'who's the hottest G' list, and this is the top 5

5 - Roloson


We can this guy. Or Fernandez.
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Post by: Andrew_Brunette on February 10, 2004, 08:26:45 PM
Roloson stays in Minni...
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: Andrew_Brunette
Roloson stays in Minni...


I want him. He's coming here. Period.
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Post by: Andrew_Brunette on February 10, 2004, 08:31:34 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Andrew_Brunette
Roloson stays in Minni...


I want him.


Oh... well in that case...
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 08:44:01 PM
:mrgreen:
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 09:07:19 PM
Good period by Lalime. Hmm, that feels weird.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 10, 2004, 09:14:52 PM
2 good periods by Lalime. Nice saves in the second.


make it 3 Lalime!
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Post by: plcamp on February 10, 2004, 09:17:23 PM
Never underestimate Lalime's ability to blow it - still the third to come. :)
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 10, 2004, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Never underestimate Lalime's ability to blow it - still the third to come. :)


agreed

Even if he keeps it up - Lalime will have to win at least 8 of his next 10 games to win fans, and probably his teammates back.

That said - he is playing well and hopefully he keeps it up!
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 10, 2004, 09:57:02 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Never underestimate Lalime's ability to blow it - still the third to come. :)




not tonight my friend. Good game, all game, by Lalime, and almost gets a goal in the process.

keep it coming!
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Post by: jubejubed on February 10, 2004, 09:57:46 PM
Fist of all, I didn't see the goal so I can't comment on it (was in the other room on the phone) but from what I saw, he was solid. Like someone in the GameDay thread said, hopefully this will be his bounce back game. However I will only entertain this thought if he's good Saturday and I will only agree that's it's his turning point if he manages to put together 5 or 6 consistent good games. *crosses fingers* Go ahead Lalime, it's your time to shine. You've been given the vote of confidence by your coach, not something a lot of goalies would get around the league, don't blow it now!
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 10, 2004, 09:59:01 PM
Proud of my boy today. Now he just has to do it again. Repeatedly ;)
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 10, 2004, 09:59:30 PM
I'm happy with Lalime's play, and I would have enjoyed it more had he gotten that empty-netter :D .
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 10, 2004, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
I'm happy with Lalime's play, and I would have enjoyed it more had he gotten that empty-netter :D .


I would have been too, however I have to confess: I didn't want any more scored because it means I've finally guessed one right in the predict the score thread. Yay!
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Post by: armchaircoach on February 10, 2004, 10:07:31 PM
yep, #40 played solid when he needed to be solid on the 3 scoring chances. A good start. For fear of sounding like Millen,  I don't think he had much of a chance on the goal, that was one of those goals I can excuse him on.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 10, 2004, 10:10:12 PM
speaking of goals, that Danton fellow is a pest. I don't like him one bit.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 10:15:17 PM
Its just one game, lets not make it a love fest. Lets see him do it against a contender.
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Post by: armani on February 10, 2004, 10:20:59 PM
Score 1 for PP4L.

Less keep it rollin' Patty.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 10:25:26 PM
PP4L must be concurred.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 10, 2004, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Its just one game, lets not make it a love fest. Lets see him do it against a contender.


But I like lovefests. Especially Lalime ones.
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Post by: GoHawksGo on February 10, 2004, 10:27:36 PM
:? what is pp4l?
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 10:28:42 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: docawesome
Its just one game, lets not make it a love fest. Lets see him do it against a contender.


But I like lovefests. Especially Lalime ones.


 :hshocked:
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Post by: Docawesome on February 10, 2004, 10:30:00 PM
"People Pulling 4 Lalime."  :roll:
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Post by: GoHawksGo on February 10, 2004, 10:36:41 PM
Count me in  :twisted:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 10, 2004, 10:38:07 PM
Quote from: docawesome
"People Pulling 4 Lalime."  :roll:


I'm all for pulling Lalime. ;)

Oh, I'm in full innuendo mode tonight.
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Post by: armchaircoach on February 10, 2004, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: docawesome
"People Pulling 4 Lalime."  :roll:


I'm all for pulling Lalime. ;)

Oh, I'm in full innuendo mode tonight.


I don't normally call for him to be pulled unless he lets in his usual stinker.... but if Jenn thinks he needs to be pulled, so be it.... :hgrin:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 10, 2004, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: docawesome
"People Pulling 4 Lalime."  :roll:


I'm all for pulling Lalime. ;)

Oh, I'm in full innuendo mode tonight.


I don't normally call for him to be pulled unless he lets in his usual stinker.... but if Jenn thinks he needs to be pulled, so be it.... :hgrin:


 :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
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Post by: armchaircoach on February 10, 2004, 10:49:17 PM
:devgrin:
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Post by: brucegarrioch on February 10, 2004, 10:50:31 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan

I'm all for pulling Lalime. ;)


Do you do that with your right, or left hand?

Sorry, hun.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 10, 2004, 10:52:44 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan

I'm all for pulling Lalime. ;)


Do you do that with your right, or left hand?

Sorry, hun.


Oh my!!
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Post by: BlindDruid on February 10, 2004, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan

I'm all for pulling Lalime. ;)


Do you do that with your right, or left hand?

Sorry, hun.


a little gutterish there Bruce..   Keep it there..  :evil:
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Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 10, 2004, 10:54:15 PM
Good job by Lalime tonight although it will take quite a few games like that to prove to me that he has regained some confidence. The crowd sincerely applauded some of the good saves he made tonight and since JM is playing him, well, I guess the best thing we can do right now is to cheer for him whenever he makes some good saves. Maybe that's partly what he needs: a little encouragement from the fans to help him with his confidence. However if he blows it again, then go Prusek! In the meantime, let's just take this one game at a time. It's probably what he's saying to himself right now...
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Post by: Andrew_Brunette on February 10, 2004, 10:57:52 PM
He was a playoff calibre goalie tonight.
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Post by: armchaircoach on February 10, 2004, 11:14:44 PM
Quote from: Andrew_Brunette
He was a playoff calibre goalie tonight.


how do you figure? :roll:
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Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 10, 2004, 11:31:59 PM
Quote from: Andrew_Brunette
He was a playoff calibre goalie tonight.


The thing is that he has to pull it off consistently to be considered like that.
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Post by: lady_stanley on February 10, 2004, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: docawesome
"People Pulling 4 Lalime."  :roll:


Hey, as the PP4L founder, I resent the eye-rolling! :) I'm just trying to send some good karma Patty's way and it obviously worked. Do you think I want him to play badly? Do you expect someone to step up and form the PHLWGDIABOF club? (People hoping Lalime will go down in a ball of fire). I'm not naive, I see what he's done, but showing some hope that he gets back into the groove couldn't hurt. Sheesh....
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 10, 2004, 11:58:08 PM
A real nice strong game By Patty,  Prusek is scheduled to start in Boston because he does well against Boston, but hopefully now he can put consistency together, he looked confident tonight, he was good on the rebound control, another thing Greg Millen said is he hasnt over handled the puck, which I think may have been another key, good job patty keep it up!
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 11, 2004, 01:49:43 AM
I'll reserve praises for the day (if it ever comes) that he can have games like at least 4 out of 5 nights, consistantly.
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Post by: Bonzai on February 11, 2004, 01:53:56 AM
Quote from: Metalhawk
I'll reserve praises for the day (if it ever comes) that he can have games like at least 4 out of 5 nights, consistantly.


To me that's the ticket...Not one good game but a few in a row...St Louis looked stiff out there and let's not forget they haven't been that good for some time.  There pp looked like ours about 5 years ago..pretty lame.  

I reseerve judgment...until futher evidence,

cheers
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Post by: work2play on February 11, 2004, 04:46:52 AM
Quote from: Bonzai
Quote from: Metalhawk
I'll reserve praises for the day (if it ever comes) that he can have games like at least 4 out of 5 nights, consistantly.


To me that's the ticket...Not one good game but a few in a row...St Louis looked stiff out there and let's not forget they haven't been that good for some time.  There pp looked like ours about 5 years ago..pretty lame.  

I reseerve judgment...until futher evidence,

cheers


I agree that we need to see more games in a row like this (a couple dozen of them).  Lalime wasn't tested much last night, but was there when he had to be  :shock: It was a small step in the right direction.
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Post by: OS on February 11, 2004, 10:37:57 AM
Competent outing, no more or no less.  Good enough if he keeps it up.
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Post by: JustLearning on February 11, 2004, 11:44:44 AM
Quote from: OS
Competent outing, no more or no less.  Good enough if he keeps it up.
That about expresses my thoughts on his game last night as well...good stops when he was needed but he certainly wasn't tested all that much. I'd describe his performance more or less as 'adequate'.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 11, 2004, 12:18:20 PM
Good game by Lalime last night --- NO SOFTIES LET IN! And also made some pretty good stops. I've said this after some other good performances and will echo metal --- I will also reserve my judgement until he can do it consistantly.

Last night his positional play was very good he seemed to be in the right place at the right time all night --- that was always his strength and what has eluded him so far this season.

Sure hope he got his mojo back ... we'll have to see.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 11, 2004, 12:30:27 PM
I second that thirsty, he was actually playing like a NHL goalie. The one goal he did let in, wasn't a softie!

I want to see what happens when he faces more shots, and teams that have good specialty teams. He was tested only a couple times last night, and although he did well a true test has yet to come. Tomorrow night I am hoping he will step it up again. I wouldn't put money on it though thats for sure.

I am like alot of people here, and I am waiting until he has 8 - 9 games where he plays consistent before I can start breathing easy again. I like what I saw last night, I am only hoping that there is more to come.
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Post by: Paddy on February 11, 2004, 01:51:14 PM
I thought he looked pretty good.

Sometimes he can look shaky even when he finishes with a good result but last night I thought he looked confident and more importantly competent.


I have even decided to tone down my PAL sig from 24 point to 18 point, in honour of his performance. :wink:
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Post by: plcamp on February 11, 2004, 02:24:36 PM
Wish he had hit that empty net - woudl have had a good laugh at White if he had.
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Post by: GoHawksGo on February 11, 2004, 03:29:31 PM
Wow, what could've been: a shutout and a goal for Lalime's bounce-back game.

Oh well, it was nonetheless a great performance.
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Post by: rose on February 11, 2004, 04:53:37 PM
I too am hoping that last night was the start of consistency for Patrick .....not only do I think he's a good guy, we need him to get his game back if we are going to take a serious run for the Cup.

Don't know...could have been the Caesar I treated myself to mid-way through the third period, but did the team look particularly pleased when they were bumping helmets with Patrick at the conclusion of the game?  Just seemed to be a lot of smiles all around :)  I think his team-mates have been concerned and have been pulling for him too through this difficult stretch...after all, they are not only team-mates, they all seem to get along as pretty good friends.  

Gotta go...."Pollyanna" has to pick up kids from basketball practice now  :)
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 11, 2004, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Wish he had hit that empty net - woudl have had a good laugh at White if he had.


Then Lalime supporters could counter claims of his goaltending problems with the fact that he would be contributing offensively!   :lol:
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 11, 2004, 05:23:17 PM
Glad to hear he had a strong outing. Hope he can put a few together...like another 40 or so.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 11, 2004, 05:59:13 PM
Lets not forget that he played St. Louis a team that scored 12 goals in their last 9 games. Granted he was great in the 2nd and 3rd, but let see him do it against a contender. Unfortunately, the Sens don't face a contender until the end of February when  they face the Flyers on the 25th. So that rules out a trade. Unless he stinks against non-contenders, in which case he'll be gone faster than a troll on a gameday.

Doc
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Post by: GoHawksGo on February 12, 2004, 12:20:13 AM
Wouldn't it be interesting if the ability to beat a non-contender could be used as a measuring stick for contenders?

In any case, the Devils look like they pull what they did two years ago - a 6th place conference finish!!?!

Boston's streaking and both of us are looking to win the division, so how about a Bruins/Sens first round match-up?  It would also leave TOR/PHI/NJ/OTT in the second round as a possibility...   :P   :twisted:
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 12, 2004, 02:03:32 AM
that would be very interesting.  good for us,   However if Lalime regains his consistancy, I believe that we will finish higher up int the standings, maybe 2nd
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Post by: Docawesome on February 12, 2004, 03:01:06 PM
I thought Martin would put Lalime in tonight. The last time prusek played the Bruins, he shut them down.In 2 games this season vs. the Bruins Prusek has not allowed a goal.

Doc
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 12, 2004, 03:30:10 PM
Quote from: docawesome
I thought Martin would put Lalime in tonight. The last time prusek played the Bruins, he shut them down.In 2 games this season vs. the Bruins Prusek has not allowed a goal.

Doc


It was the plan Martin announced on Monday Lalime got the Blues, Prusek the B's and back to Lalime on Sat night for the Habs.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 12, 2004, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: docawesome
I thought Martin would put Lalime in tonight. The last time prusek played the Bruins, he shut them down.In 2 games this season vs. the Bruins Prusek has not allowed a goal.

Doc



That's probably why he's putting Prusek in against them. I would. I think Lalime knows why and it won't hurt his confidence.
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Post by: GoHawksGo on February 12, 2004, 03:38:47 PM
It's also best to put Prusek in after Lalime wins.  If Lalime lost against the Blues on Tuesday, it would give him the assumption that he was taken out against the Bruins because of a loss (and because they felt he was the Lalime that most of us see him as).

Of course, this could mean more starts for Prusek - say, consecutively as well - starting tonight.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 12, 2004, 08:51:03 PM
a couple of great saves by Prusek. He hasn't been tested much but if Lalime was in net would he have stopped these rare shots to save the lead?
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 12, 2004, 10:09:19 PM
Quote from: docawesome
a couple of great saves by Prusek. He hasn't been tested much but if Lalime was in net would he have stopped these rare shots to save the lead?


He did against St. Louis.

He has done so most times. Let's face it, it's rare when the Sens get outshot. Often they face about 20 shots against. Or so it seems.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 13, 2004, 07:13:30 AM
I think Lalime would have shut them out last night. :) He made a spectacular glove side save against St. Louis which was similiar to the one scored on Prusek last night.

That being said, Prusek did well last night. It will be awefully nice for the team if it turns out Lalime has regained his confidence and gives us the goal tending he's capable of.  Doesn't hurt to have 2 tender's you can rely on going in to the playoffs. Maybe we'll face the Bruins along the way and play Prusek for the whole series. :) Then play Lalime for the whole series against Philly.  Then mix them up when we play the leafs. :)
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Post by: plcamp on February 13, 2004, 08:05:58 AM
Prusek was so-so last night I thought. Neither a bad nor a great game for him.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 13, 2004, 08:14:53 AM
4-2 B's if LAlime was in nets ;)
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Post by: plcamp on February 13, 2004, 06:31:27 PM
Sens are screwed, Allstar game has come and gone and Lalime's still here.

We lose early in playoffs with this guy. Period.
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Post by: SzuperChicky on February 13, 2004, 06:32:10 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Sens are screwed, Allstar game has come and gone and Lalime's still here.

We lose early in playoffs with this guy. Period.


Ok...sure.
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Post by: plcamp on February 13, 2004, 06:45:14 PM
Happy you agree
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 13, 2004, 07:29:49 PM
I'm interested in seeing how Lalime does tomorrow. I just hope he does well.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 14, 2004, 12:47:16 AM
Lalime will do fine tomorrow, I think he knows what it takes and he is hungry.. watch and see what he does! and if hes bad, then well Prusek will become starter, but i think he is done with his bad days, he loooked very good against St louis
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 14, 2004, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: plcamp
Sens are screwed, Allstar game has come and gone and Lalime's still here.

We lose early in playoffs with this guy. Period.


I sure hope we're wrong about it PL, but I'm of the same mind as you on this one. At the same time I hope I'm eating serious crow after the playoffs.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 14, 2004, 12:48:11 PM
I just don't see why you are SO sure we lose early.

We got to the conference finals last year for crying out loud. :roll:
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 14, 2004, 02:13:59 PM
That's how  scared you are of Lalime's goaltending, Camp? I don't underrestimate him that much, but I do realize that he hasn't been as good this year compared to last year. I have noticed that he's a much more consistant goalie when it comes to the playoffs.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 14, 2004, 02:35:38 PM
He does pick up his game quite a bit in the playoffs, If he played like that year round then we would have the best team in the league!
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Post by: plcamp on February 14, 2004, 03:14:15 PM
Quote
I have noticed that he's a much more consistant goalie when it comes to the playoffs.


Did you watch the Sens in the playoffs last year? Lalime surrendered a record number of first goals on weak shots. He was by far Ottawa's weakest link in last year's playoffs.

How quickly poeple forget, and how biased can jusdgment be that a poor playoff performance turns into "he's a much more consistant goalie when it comes to the playoffs."?

Lalime has been way sub-par since late last year's regular season - and there's been nothing but a negative trend since then.

So yes, I am very very scared of Lalim'es goaltending. Every Sens fan should be.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 14, 2004, 03:29:03 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Quote
I have noticed that he's a much more consistant goalie when it comes to the playoffs.


Did you watch the Sens in the playoffs last year? Lalime surrendered a record number of first goals on weak shots. He was by far Ottawa's weakest link in last year's playoffs.

How quickly poeple forget, and how biased can jusdgment be that a poor playoff performance turns into "he's a much more consistant goalie when it comes to the playoffs."?

Lalime has been way sub-par since late last year's regular season - and there's been nothing but a negative trend since then.

So yes, I am very very scared of Lalim'es goaltending. Every Sens fan should be.


1) Yes I did watch the playoffs!
2) Of course he had a couple of bad games, but there were other goalies that had bad games during the playoffs also. Come on even, Brodeur had a few bad games during the playoffs.
3)When I mean consistant, I meant more specifically on a yearly basis (his playoff record).
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Post by: plcamp on February 14, 2004, 05:49:04 PM
You cannot point at last season's Lalime playoff performance and try to argue that he 'steps it up' in the playoffs. He was HORRIBLE in last year's playoffs.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 14, 2004, 05:53:34 PM
Quote from: plcamp
You cannot point at last season's Lalime playoff performance and try to argue that he 'steps it up' in the playoffs. He was HORRIBLE in last year's playoffs.


You don't think he stepped it up big time in game 5 and 6 against the Devils? He could have sucked in those games causing the team not to have even made the series go up to game 7.''

I think might be an interesting stat, according to the NHL.com. New Jersey Devils were #1 when it came to trailing first in last year's playoffs, while Anaheim got #2, and Ottawa was #3, and Colorado was #4, etc etc.

However in terms of save percentage, Lalime was 3rd, Giguere was 2nd, and Brodeur #1.

You're saying that Lalime was horrible, what would these goaltenders be under your criteria- save percentage in last year's playoffs?
Dan Cloutier: .868
Tommy Salo: .888
Dwayne Roloson: .903
Roman Chechmanek .909
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Post by: plcamp on February 14, 2004, 06:25:18 PM
He singlehandedly below both games 2 and 4 of that series, so it is hardly adequate to point at him beinmg good in games Ottawa shoudl not have even had to play - games they did have to play solely because of lalime's horrible goaltending.
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Post by: England_Sen on February 14, 2004, 08:45:32 PM
Quote from: plcamp
He singlehandedly below both games 2 and 4 of that series, so it is hardly adequate to point at him beinmg good in games Ottawa shoudl not have even had to play - games they did have to play solely because of lalime's horrible goaltending.


The offence should have picked up to cover for him. Should we trade half of our forwards because they didn't perform in the playoffs?
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Post by: Docawesome on February 14, 2004, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: plcamp
He singlehandedly below both games 2 and 4 of that series, so it is hardly adequate to point at him beinmg good in games Ottawa shoudl not have even had to play - games they did have to play solely because of lalime's horrible goaltending.


And the team was so powerful that they were able to rebound from the 3-1 deficit Lalime put them in in the series. How would they have done with a better goaltender? The team would've won the 1st 2 games and game 4. Sens lead series 3-1. Ring the bell its TKO.
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Post by: SzuperChicky on February 14, 2004, 09:00:17 PM
If anything, I think Lalime has had a better post-season than regular season.  He has showed up in the playoffs - especially the last two years.  You can't blame him (soley) for those losses.

He played outstanding both years we played Philly.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 14, 2004, 10:11:00 PM
Lalime played well, would have been nice had he had stopped both though. Anyways, I'm just glad to see him gain back his confidence.
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Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on February 15, 2004, 11:12:40 AM
Quote from: Ottawacitizen
Theodore bit his tongue when asked about being taken out. "He's the coach, he's paid to make those decisions and I'm paid to stop the puck."


I hope Lalime says the same if he's pulled this season. :o
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 15, 2004, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Lalime played well, would have been nice had he had stopped both though. Anyways, I'm just glad to see him gain back his confidence.


Bad luck on the both the goals unfortunately. He played solid, and was there when the defense wasn't.

2 games now he's pulled together. I'm feeling good.

I think I should have waxed poetic earlier though ;) Now I think he's gonna make me look like a bandwagoning chump. However, I can live with that...whatever I must do to bring good karma I will do.
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 15, 2004, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: plcamp
He singlehandedly below both games 2 and 4 of that series, so it is hardly adequate to point at him beinmg good in games Ottawa shoudl not have even had to play - games they did have to play solely because of lalime's horrible goaltending.


And the team was so powerful that they were able to rebound from the 3-1 deficit Lalime put them in in the series. How would they have done with a better goaltender? The team would've won the 1st 2 games and game 4. Sens lead series 3-1. Ring the bell its TKO.


I'm willing to talk about how bad Lalime has been for much of this year but you have got to be kidding in your guys' description of his performance last year of the playoffs!  He was awesome!  The early games in the Devils series were not his fault - the team did not show up...they played like crap and scored hardly any goals.  How can that be the goalie's fault?
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 15, 2004, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: plcamp
He singlehandedly below both games 2 and 4 of that series, so it is hardly adequate to point at him beinmg good in games Ottawa shoudl not have even had to play - games they did have to play solely because of lalime's horrible goaltending.


And the team was so powerful that they were able to rebound from the 3-1 deficit Lalime put them in in the series. How would they have done with a better goaltender? The team would've won the 1st 2 games and game 4. Sens lead series 3-1. Ring the bell its TKO.


I'm willing to talk about how bad Lalime has been for much of this year but you have got to be kidding in your guys' description of his performance last year of the playoffs!  He was awesome!  The early games in the Devils series were not his fault - the team did not show up...they played like crap and scored hardly any goals.  How can that be the goalie's fault?


I would like to know what they're smoking TB. Whatever it is, it's been working for them the entirity of this thread!
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Post by: plcamp on February 15, 2004, 01:51:06 PM
Quote
The early games in the Devils series were not his fault


You obviously never watched that series.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 15, 2004, 02:12:14 PM
How can you blame Lalime for the Sens losing that series against the Devils, why couldn't the offense score the way they should have in games 2 and 3?
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 15, 2004, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Quote
The early games in the Devils series were not his fault


You obviously never watched that series.


good point!   :lol:
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Post by: Docawesome on February 15, 2004, 02:39:36 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Lalime played well, would have been nice had he had stopped both though. Anyways, I'm just glad to see him gain back his confidence.


Bad luck on the both the goals unfortunately. He played solid, and was there when the defense wasn't.

2 games now he's pulled together. I'm feeling good.

I think I should have waxed poetic earlier though ;) Now I think he's gonna make me look like a bandwagoning chump. However, I can live with that...whatever I must do to bring good karma I will do.


I thought he played well. The 1st one was a flukey goal. It would've been nice if he stopped that breakaway though. Prusek seems to be better than Lalime on breakaways. Stopped his 1st two penalty shots, and they came in back-to-back games, Boston and the Islanders.

Doc
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Post by: Docawesome on February 15, 2004, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: plcamp
He singlehandedly below both games 2 and 4 of that series, so it is hardly adequate to point at him beinmg good in games Ottawa shoudl not have even had to play - games they did have to play solely because of lalime's horrible goaltending.


And the team was so powerful that they were able to rebound from the 3-1 deficit Lalime put them in in the series. How would they have done with a better goaltender? The team would've won the 1st 2 games and game 4. Sens lead series 3-1. Ring the bell its TKO.


I'm willing to talk about how bad Lalime has been for much of this year but you have got to be kidding in your guys' description of his performance last year of the playoffs!  He was awesome!  The early games in the Devils series were not his fault - the team did not show up...they played like crap and scored hardly any goals.  How can that be the goalie's fault?


Lalime stunk in games 2 and 4 against the Devils. He was the reason why we lost the 2 game.
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 15, 2004, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: plcamp
He singlehandedly below both games 2 and 4 of that series, so it is hardly adequate to point at him beinmg good in games Ottawa shoudl not have even had to play - games they did have to play solely because of lalime's horrible goaltending.


And the team was so powerful that they were able to rebound from the 3-1 deficit Lalime put them in in the series. How would they have done with a better goaltender? The team would've won the 1st 2 games and game 4. Sens lead series 3-1. Ring the bell its TKO.


I'm willing to talk about how bad Lalime has been for much of this year but you have got to be kidding in your guys' description of his performance last year of the playoffs!  He was awesome!  The early games in the Devils series were not his fault - the team did not show up...they played like crap and scored hardly any goals.  How can that be the goalie's fault?


Lalime stunk in games 2 and 4 against the Devils. He was the reason why we lost the 2 game.


what was the score again?
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Post by: interzone on February 15, 2004, 02:55:16 PM
Trent, it was only the most important playoff series we've ever played! I can't believe you haven't memorized the scores!

Game 1: Ottawa 3-2 OT
Game 2: New Jersey 4-1
Game 3: New Jersey 2-0
Game 4: New Jersey 5-2
Game 5: Ottawa 3-1
Game 6: Ottawa 2-1 OT
Game 7: New Jersey 3-2
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Post by: Docawesome on February 15, 2004, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: TrentBlue
How can that be the goalie's fault?



Game 2:

4-1 loss

In this game he allowed 4 goals on 21 shots, His SV% was 0.810.

He allowed a goal 2 minutes into the game -OUCH back breaker.
He allowed another goal 4 minutes into the the 2nd period -OUCH another back breaker.


Game 4:

5-2 loss

-New Jersey grabbed a 1-0 lead on its first shot, by Grant Marshall from the point.


-The Devils converted 41 seconds into the third when Brian Rafalski's drive was deflected by Friesen between Patrick Lalime's pads to make it 3-2.

He surrendered 5 goals on 20 shots. Lalime's SV% in the game was 0.750.


So do you want this one back:

Quote
The early games in the Devils series were not his fault



Doc
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 15, 2004, 03:29:16 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: TrentBlue
How can that be the goalie's fault?



Game 2:

4-1 loss

In this game he allowed 4 goals on 21 shots, His SV% was 0.810.

He allowed a goal 2 minutes into the game -OUCH back breaker.
He allowed another goal 4 minutes into the the 2nd period -OUCH another back breaker.


Game 4:

5-2 loss

-New Jersey grabbed a 1-0 lead on its first shot, by Grant Marshall from the point.


-The Devils converted 41 seconds into the third when Brian Rafalski's drive was deflected by Friesen between Patrick Lalime's pads to make it 3-2.

He surrendered 5 goals on 20 shots. Lalime's SV% in the game was 0.750.

"Those were weak calls" Alfredsson said.


So do you want this one back:

Quote
The early games in the Devils series were not his fault



Doc
'

teams win a lot of games with 1.5 goals a game  :lol:

I didn't claim him to be great in those games - but the whole team was trash.  Unless you score at least three goals you can't blame the goalie!  The team did not show up emotionally - so they were going to lose no matter what Lalime did.
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Post by: sensgal on February 15, 2004, 03:56:06 PM
Personally I don't think Lalime is still up to par He definatley should have had the two goals last night against the Habs he's still weak 5 hole and glove side.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 15, 2004, 03:56:36 PM
I donno why we are talking about this, but anyway Lalime has been great the last couple of games, so thast a start, hopefully he continues for this second half of the season!
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 15, 2004, 04:21:16 PM
Agreed that Lalime didn't play well at all in games 2 and 4.

However in game 2- Sens playing like crap right from the start of the game, Lalime was bad too in this game. But This loss can't be only blamed on Lalime, everyone's bad play was the result of this loss. Team loss in my opinion.

Game 3- The Sens were shutout by the Devils, what can Lalime do if his team isn't scoring any goals?

Game 4- This one I will agree, he was the reason of the loss in this game. He didn't play well in this one and his teammates were playing a good game upfront. This one was the loss that should be blamed mainly on Lalime.

So as you see, Lalime only gets the blame mainly for the game 4 loss and some of the blame for the game 2 loss.

He showed up in games 1, 3, 5, 6, 7.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 15, 2004, 06:23:58 PM
Games coming up,  I think Lalime starting against the Rangers and Prusek against Washington.

Sens Vs. Rangers- Lalime
Sens vs. Caps- Prusek

Afterwards, who I feel should start against who:

Sens Vs. Thrashers- Lalime
Sens vs. Flames- Lalime
Sens vs. Penguins- Prusek
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 15, 2004, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Games coming up,  I think Lalime starting against the Rangers and Prusek against Washington.

Sens Vs. Rangers- Lalime
Sens vs. Caps- Prusek

Afterwards, who I feel should start against who:

Sens Vs. Thrashers- Lalime
Sens vs. Flames- Lalime
Sens vs. Penguins- Prusek


Exaclty what I think. I bet JM thinks the same thing too. ;)
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Post by: plcamp on February 16, 2004, 02:15:15 PM
Better would be Prusek in all games :)
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 16, 2004, 02:57:15 PM
I disagree. :)
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 16, 2004, 03:38:19 PM
another win for Lalime tonight. He had a solid performance.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 16, 2004, 03:39:19 PM
I don't know if he's getting his confidence back. 2-1 vs St. Louis, 5-2 vs. Montreal, and 4-1 today. But no "Oh my heavens, what a save by Lalime", yet. The team is playing good d.
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Post by: SENSfreak_03 on February 16, 2004, 03:40:36 PM
he has been better lately, but i found this and have to post it, sorry for how big it is.
(http://www.sharemation.com/sensfan1/Choking_WEB.jpg)

edited for picture size
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Post by: Docawesome on February 16, 2004, 03:43:03 PM
That looks like Todd White.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 16, 2004, 03:44:57 PM
I was expecting to see a Sens logo there.
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Post by: OS on February 16, 2004, 03:47:52 PM
Sounds like he had a competent game.   Not too much challenge and one poster said the goal came from missed poke check - ?

I hope this gets his confidence up and he shines in tougher games, but the last couple of games he hasn't had to be brilliant.   I'm behind him but am not about to anoint him as a saviour based on a couple of easier games after his problems earlier this year.
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Post by: jubejubed on February 16, 2004, 03:54:07 PM
Ok, 3 consistent games in a row, it's a start. :) Atlanta and Calgary coming up for him since I doubt he's starting tomorrow night. If he can play good in the next two, atleast he's starting to come around and I can probably wear my jersey without getting mobbed by fans :wink:

On another note... how come so many of the Sens' commercials have Lalime in them? Besides the "it's how we play the game" commercials with Chara, Spezza, White etc, I can't think of a single one that doesn't have Lalime in it :shock:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on February 16, 2004, 03:57:56 PM
I've noticed that too.

Might have something to do with his personality. Plus he can speak better english than some of our european stars like Havlat and hossa.

Maybe also cuz he's bilingual? makes us look good?
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Post by: i luv havlat on February 16, 2004, 04:01:20 PM
from what i heard, lalime played pretty good. Hope the last couple games he's started in and played well really boosted his cofidence. He seems to be slowly regaining his confidence. Keep it up lalime!
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 16, 2004, 04:11:40 PM
I'm really happy so far. In the last few games he's made some nice stops. Nothing too, too challenging, but it's good. He seems to be returning to his old self by the sounds of it. Solid :D
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Post by: 001sensfan on February 16, 2004, 05:10:00 PM
Is Lalime back? looking good since the All Star break, 3 and 0 with a 1.33 goals against and a 933% save percentage.
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Post by: 001sensfan on February 16, 2004, 05:15:15 PM
Sensfreak,

you need to shrink and compress that image to something like this

(http://www.sharemation.com/sensfan1/Choking_WEB.jpg)
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Post by: JustLearning on February 16, 2004, 05:51:24 PM
Thanks for reducing the picture J.D.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 16, 2004, 06:01:14 PM
its good to see lalime having some strong games to regain his confidence
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 16, 2004, 06:35:42 PM
Didn't see the game but its good to hear that Lalime had a good game.

Some might be thinking he's doing well but he hasn't faced a challenge, well think about the fact that before the all-star break, he didn't even play well against the easy teams and now he's doing well against these less-challenging opponents which is a good sign. He is also make more of the routine saves that we expect from him.
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Post by: SENSfreak_03 on February 16, 2004, 07:15:41 PM
Quote
Sensfreak,

you need to shrink and compress that image to something like this


ya im sorry, not a computer wizz, wasnt sure how to. thanks for doing it.
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 17, 2004, 01:33:30 AM
By the sound of it, Lalime wasn't tested against the Rangers...
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Post by: Docawesome on February 17, 2004, 01:36:30 AM
He was not.
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 17, 2004, 01:46:14 AM
Quote from: docawesome
He was not.


But he's apparently back...
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Post by: Docawesome on February 17, 2004, 01:50:54 AM
Back in black? He still needs a little wack for that scare. :mrgreen:
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 17, 2004, 09:18:07 AM
I watched the game, well most of it. He's back to normal, letting in one weak goal that went right through him although it was a tip in front it still went right through him. He is starting to control the rebounds a little better though.
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Post by: OS on February 17, 2004, 09:22:12 AM
Quote
Is Lalime back?


Don't know yet.  1 goal on 15 shots +  2 goalposts.    Went down on his knees before Barnaby let his shot go on the penalty shot.  High stick side was wide open, but it's Barnaby.  

Everyone wants him to be in form but the last few games don't say much and the jury is still out.  Unfortunately Lalime has used up most of the "benefit of the doubt" credits he had built up and he needs to come up with a couple of great games when the team isn't at its best.   The memory of the 5 goal collapses before the all-star break isn't washed away or balanced out from a couple of easy games where the team has been on its game.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 17, 2004, 06:00:52 PM
You'd think Lalime would be strating tonight. You never know with Martin. Some of his decisions boggle.

Go Sens!
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 17, 2004, 06:08:55 PM
I think its likely Prusek will start, Lalime played yesterday. Jacques of late hasn't put Lalime in back-to back games except for the beginning of the season during the California road trip when he played against Anaheim, and then San Jose the next day.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 17, 2004, 10:00:15 PM
Lalime must be upset. it was supposed to be him tonight.
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Post by: OS on February 17, 2004, 10:02:35 PM
Good.  I hope he is pissed off enough to go out and get a shut-out on Thursday.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 17, 2004, 10:05:13 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Lalime must be upset. it was supposed to be him tonight.


Really? I thought Prusek was the decision right from the start for this game.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 17, 2004, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Quote from: docawesome
Lalime must be upset. it was supposed to be him tonight.


Really? I thought Prusek was the decision right from the start for this game.


So did I.

Anyway, Lalime does well against Atlanta. Hopefully, with the tie to the freakin' caps, the Sens will take out their vengeance on the Thrashers.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 17, 2004, 10:10:23 PM
If Lalime had been in nets, I bet there would have been a bunch of angry people if he had allowed a shot like Prusek did. Prusek saved the Lalime bashing :wink:
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Post by: Docawesome on February 17, 2004, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Quote from: docawesome
Lalime must be upset. it was supposed to be him tonight.


Really? I thought Prusek was the decision right from the start for this game.


So did I.



No I meant hypothetically it was supposed to be Lalime.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 17, 2004, 10:14:39 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
If Lalime had been in nets, I bet there would have been a bunch of angry people if he had allowed a shot like Prusek did. Prusek saved the Lalime bashing :wink:


I know. When it's Prusek, it's a love fest. ;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 17, 2004, 10:17:39 PM
Hihihi. No comment on that one Jenn.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 17, 2004, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Hihihi. No comment on that one Jenn.


It's probably best I keep my mouth shut as well ;)

Because I know the outrage that would occur...

"We had only 19 shots against us, and we had 48 on them and we tied. Lalime made a couple of good saves, but let in a softie and cost us a point. Trade Lalime  ra ra ra etc."

OK, sorry, I couldn't resist. Honest. ;)
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Post by: Docawesome on February 17, 2004, 10:26:45 PM
>>>
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 17, 2004, 10:28:10 PM
If its Lalime in net - LaBASH time

If its Prusek in nets - its Pruslove time!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 17, 2004, 10:29:46 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
If its Lalime in net - LaBASH time

If its Prusek in nets - its Pruslove time!


great stuff here people, great stuff ;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 17, 2004, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
If its Lalime in net - LaBASH time

If its Prusek in nets - its Pruslove time!


oh come on.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 17, 2004, 10:33:07 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: sens_fan_6
If its Lalime in net - LaBASH time

If its Prusek in nets - its Pruslove time!


oh come on.


You know its true Doc, come on admit it! :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 17, 2004, 10:34:22 PM
He doesn't want to admit he's in luuuuuuurve with Prusek. ;)
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 17, 2004, 10:36:46 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
He doesn't want to admit he's in luuuuuuurve with Prusek. ;)


 :lol:  :lol: Oooooooooooooh Doc LOVES Prusek! :lol: (I'm joking, Doc)
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 17, 2004, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
He doesn't want to admit he's in luuuuuuurve with Prusek. ;)


 :lol:  :lol: Oooooooooooooh Doc LOVES Prusek! :lol: (I'm joking, Doc)


No we're not. We're DEADLY serious. ;)
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 17, 2004, 10:40:45 PM
Jenn, is Doc hiding right now?
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Post by: Docawesome on February 17, 2004, 10:47:11 PM
Thats pretty pathetic.  :?
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Post by: OS on February 18, 2004, 01:23:18 AM
Nope.  If it's Lalime in net, I doubt we get a point tonight.  Prusek made more quality saves in the game tonight than Lalime has had to in the last 2 combined.    He also has some goodwill built up because of the job he has doen and he hasn't stunk for multiple games close together.    

Lalime has shaken the confidence of the fans, mine included.   With Prusek I don't flinch every time a player has an open shot or breakaway  the way I do now with Lalime.    I sincerly hope Lalime puts together several great back to back games and gets us believing he has his game back together this season.
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 18, 2004, 02:02:59 AM
Quote from: docawesome
Thats pretty pathetic.  :?


Kids... :)
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 18, 2004, 02:11:20 AM
I am glad that we have come back from teh all star break with a few easy games to help lalime gain confidence again,  I think he will, Now bigger tests would be Atlanta and Calgary because they have players that can turly threaten our wins !
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 18, 2004, 02:43:38 AM
The reason Prusek doesn't get hell when he lets a weak one in is that he doesn't do it every game, like a certain someone. So he gets the benefit of the doubt. Besides, being 11-4-1, 1.85 GAA and .927 SV% gives you more leverage...
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 18, 2004, 09:35:23 AM
Lalime looked absolutely great last night! Right where he should have been all the time, had his angles right, no soft 50' goals, didn't go down too early...except after the National anthem he sat down on the bench a little early :wink:
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 18, 2004, 09:37:39 AM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
If Lalime had been in nets, I bet there would have been a bunch of angry people if he had allowed a shot like Prusek did. Prusek saved the Lalime bashing :wink:


defintaly. Prusek was clearly beat on that 60 footer. Other than that though. he looked sharp.

and luckily for us, should Martin choose Prusek as number 1 someday, Lalime is man enough to suck it up and take the backup position if need be. I don't he'd throw a fit and go elsewhere like some ego driven tenders. *cough*CUJO*cough*
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Post by: Johann on February 18, 2004, 09:38:42 AM
Quote from: Metalhawk
The reason Prusek doesn't get hell when he lets a weak one in is that he doesn't do it every game, like a certain someone. So he gets the benefit of the doubt. Besides, being 11-4-1, 1.85 GAA and .927 SV% gives you more leverage...


I agree. It's not so much the odd weak goal, every goalie let's in bad goals once in a while. It's the frequency of questionable goals, plus the frequency of the same type of goal (high glove side, and 5-hole), plus Lalime hasn't consistently been making the big save at the right time.
 
It's my hope that Jacques has told both goalies that the job is now wide open and that they will alternate starts and may the best goalie win the job. Is that not a fair way of going about it?
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Post by: rose on February 18, 2004, 10:52:44 AM
Johann...you took the words right out of my mouth.  It's not that I dislike Patrick or wish him ill...it's just that I don't trust him anymore to come up with saves when they are most needed.  I would like nothing more than for Patrick to work back into his game.  In the meantime, Prusek needs time to develop his game as well and if he lets some 'softies' in along the way, it's to be expected due to his lack of experience and his learning curve.  In the end, with any luck, we'll have a solid goaltending tandem heading into the playoffs.
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Post by: SzuperChicky on February 18, 2004, 02:33:11 PM
:roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
That's like saying that the Leafs would have won if Telivist (SP!) was playing.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 19, 2004, 10:30:42 AM
Is Lalime starting tonight? <<<Notice no bashing there yet.  :)  :roll:
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Post by: JustLearning on February 19, 2004, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: docawesome
Is Lalime starting tonight? <<<Notice no bashing there yet.  :)  :roll:
YET? :lol: .....and yes, as far as I know he is starting tonight.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 19, 2004, 12:15:02 PM
"Prusek was clearly beat on that 60 footer"

- You obviously werent at the game. That shot was like a curve ball. And it wasn't a 60 footer...

Whoa, you LaLa Land Lalime supporters will bend reality to the extreme to save grace here. It just makes the PAL contigent that much stronger.

PS up until that goal , Prusek had stopped 78 shots in a row against the b's. That about double the amount of Lalime. Thats what counts. Period.

I dont have to scroll to far back to hear the whimpers and whines against people micro analyzing lalime
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 19, 2004, 05:08:22 PM
your right, I wasn't at the game, and as such I was able to see the replays over and over again in slow motion thanks to modern technology. it's magic. It may not have been 60 ft, but it was from the blue line and he was not screened.

"That shot was like a curve ball"  - talk about bending reality. Maybe from the seats that's what it looked like.

you just proved our point billy.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 19, 2004, 05:41:31 PM
Quote
I was able to see the replays over and over again in slow motion thanks to modern technology


And you still didn't see....

Quote

From the blueline
[/b]

No. Inside the blueline
;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Paddy on February 19, 2004, 06:25:10 PM
Do I sense some jealousy from the Lalime camp!!! :o

Prusek gets more slack than Lalime because the expectations for him are lower. After all he is a backup, he makes less money and he's less experienced.

Despite that, he has put up "much" better numbers than Lalime. :wink:

Come on and jump on the bandwagon, while there's still room!!! :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 19, 2004, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: Paddy
Do I sense some jealousy from the Lalime camp!!! :o

Prusek gets more slack than Lalime because the expectations for him are lower. After all he is a backup, he makes less money and he's less experienced.

Despite that, he has put up "much" better numbers than Lalime. :wink:

Come on and jump on the bandwagon, while there's still room!!! :lol:



Yes if you dump a little on Lalime you're going to get blasted. Suddenly you're a prick, you're lame, and you're in love with Prusek.  :roll:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 19, 2004, 06:39:48 PM
And apparently none of here you can take a joke :roll:

Geez. :roll:
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Post by: Docawesome on February 19, 2004, 08:15:55 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
And apparently none of here you can take a joke :roll:

Geez. :roll:


I can take jokes and jabs but not insults.
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Post by: 50 Mission Cap on February 19, 2004, 08:21:32 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
And apparently none of here you can take a joke :roll:

Geez. :roll:


I can take jokes and jabs but not insults.


Is somebody bugging you Doc?

You's wants me to take em out? :wink:
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 19, 2004, 09:58:58 PM
We will win absolutely nothing with lalime as our #1 goaltender. :roll:  Very dissappointing :cry:
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Post by: plcamp on February 19, 2004, 10:03:28 PM
On this day to celebrate the arrival of a great player, Sens management starts to look silly for giving Lalime too many chances to turn his game around.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 19, 2004, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We will win absolutely nothing with lalime as our #1 goaltender. :roll:  Very dissappointing :cry:


None of the 3 goals was his fault. He was fooled on the 1st one as the puck hit Simspon's leg and changed direction. The 2nd one was a fluke. The 3rd one was the fault of the 2 PKers who lunged at the point man leaving 1 Sens dman all by himself infront of Lalime creating an Atlanta 2-1. Game over.
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Post by: operasen on February 19, 2004, 10:05:07 PM
He could have had the third one Doc.  A great one would have.
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Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 19, 2004, 10:09:15 PM
I'm more angry at the reffing than anything else right now. :evil: It is a complete joke! We should have had more PP on that and the last one against Chara was totally ridiculous!!!
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Post by: Senscore on February 19, 2004, 10:11:46 PM
Lalime still sucked, though.
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Post by: SimplySurf on February 19, 2004, 10:14:12 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We will win absolutely nothing with lalime as our #1 goaltender. :roll:  Very dissappointing :cry:


None of the 3 goals was his fault. He was fooled on the 1st one as the puck hit Simspon's leg and changed direction. The 2nd one was a fluke. The 3rd one was the fault of the 2 PKers who lunged at the point man leaving 1 Sens dman all by himself infront of Lalime creating an Atlanta 2-1. Game over.


The point is, Lalime is not clutch. I don't care who's fault it was, it's not the first time Lalime let's in a goal in the last minute of the game or a period. I said it in another post the other day... he makes great saves at times, but he lets in goals at the wrong time.
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Post by: SensRockMyWorld on February 19, 2004, 10:17:07 PM
Talk about spoiling what started out as a good night. :evil:  I hope JM puts it into the players' heads (yes including Lalime :wink: ) that they just can't blow up leads at the very end of a game, no matter how big or small they are.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 19, 2004, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: senscore's revenge
Lalime still sucked, though.


Its obvious you did not watch the game. As much as I love bashing Lalime he was steady today.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 19, 2004, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: GoHabsGo
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We will win absolutely nothing with lalime as our #1 goaltender. :roll:  Very dissappointing :cry:


None of the 3 goals was his fault. He was fooled on the 1st one as the puck hit Simspon's leg and changed direction. The 2nd one was a fluke. The 3rd one was the fault of the 2 PKers who lunged at the point man leaving 1 Sens dman all by himself infront of Lalime creating an Atlanta 2-1. Game over.


The point is, Lalime is not clutch. I don't care who's fault it was, it's not the first time Lalime let's in a goal in the last minute of the game or a period. I said it in another post the other day... he makes great saves at times, but he lets in goals at the wrong time.


Next time watch the game.

The 3 goals would have went in on ANY goaltender.
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Post by: SimplySurf on February 19, 2004, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: GoHabsGo
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We will win absolutely nothing with lalime as our #1 goaltender. :roll:  Very dissappointing :cry:


None of the 3 goals was his fault. He was fooled on the 1st one as the puck hit Simspon's leg and changed direction. The 2nd one was a fluke. The 3rd one was the fault of the 2 PKers who lunged at the point man leaving 1 Sens dman all by himself infront of Lalime creating an Atlanta 2-1. Game over.


The point is, Lalime is not clutch. I don't care who's fault it was, it's not the first time Lalime let's in a goal in the last minute of the game or a period. I said it in another post the other day... he makes great saves at times, but he lets in goals at the wrong time.


Next time watch the game.

The 3 goals would have went in on ANY goaltender.


Lalime is not clutch. And oh, I DID watch the game.
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Post by: DocHollywood on February 19, 2004, 10:22:05 PM
Agree with Doc. Lalime made some key saves tonight. Can't blame him on those goals.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 19, 2004, 10:35:40 PM
Actually, those 2 goals that Lalime let in during regulation were not what you can technically call LOUSY goals that he let in. However that OT goal, I really felt he should have had- it ticked me off. Not saying its all Lalime's fault- there was a lot of traffic around the net, refs, penalty given to Chara, etc. etc.
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Post by: oprington on February 19, 2004, 11:29:41 PM
"Actually, those 2 goals that Lalime let in during regulation were not what you can technically call LOUSY goals that he let in. However that OT goal, I really felt he should have had- it ticked me off. Not saying its all Lalime's fault- there was a lot of traffic around the net, refs, penalty given to Chara, etc. etc."


For once, can the Senators lose a game and it not be the fault of the refs??? Ottawa is the 19th least penalized team in the league AND, they have had 33 more man advantages than being down a player. They again had more powerplay opportunities than Atlanta in this game. Believe it or not, everytime a Senator goes down, its not a penalty. [/quote]
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Post by: Senscore on February 20, 2004, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: senscore's revenge
Lalime still sucked, though.


Its obvious you did not watch the game. As much as I love bashing Lalime he was steady today.


I DID see it. He was unspectacular. And gave up CRUCIAL goals, at the worst possible times.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 20, 2004, 01:14:12 AM
im all for the stand Lalime was solid tonight, he couldnt have had those goals,  case closed
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 20, 2004, 01:20:10 AM
Good thing was that the Sens earned a point. Its better than not earning any.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 20, 2004, 01:28:39 AM
LALIME CANNOT STEAL US A GAME !

I know this is a Lalime thread, but before I get the engine cranking I would first like to thank Peter Bondra for kicking our team in ass when we could not get a spark. We had plenty of "chances" but , until our new aquisition lit the lamp and busted the gates open we had no spark.

No one fears our goaltender and no one has faith in him. The crowd does not support him, and he cannot stop a puck. We have laid down a mile of rug for this guy. We have given a mile of patience. He had an ample opportunity to get it going on between the pipes and re focus.

Bondra opens the scoring, and Lalime shits the bed. He wasn't stable. He was BS lucky with the blocker tonight. He didnt have a chance on the 2nd goal though, I will give that much. The OT Goal was horrible. He was paralyzed or something.

I am not going to rant any more and I have stated all along Lalime is not the tender to steal us a game, never less get us a cup. Maybe get patrick roy out of retirement? For F** sakes we better do something about this ;)seive...  

P.S: I heard Greg Millen called Shaeffer " Maccockeren" !!! and they were on dope.  Apparently they were fumbling the play by play all night like cheech and chong.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 20, 2004, 01:53:26 AM
The Sens defense is a strong one, Billy, meaning that the goalie doesn't have the chance so often to actually STEAL a game except every once in awhile.
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 20, 2004, 03:37:44 AM
Lalime isn't really to blame tonight, but he proved again that he can't steal a game...
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 20, 2004, 03:41:03 AM
Quote from: 50 Mission Cap
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
And apparently none of here you can take a joke :roll:

Geez. :roll:


I can take jokes and jabs but not insults.


Is somebody bugging you Doc?

You's wants me to take em out? :wink:


What are you gonna do? Make 'em look at your avatar until they can't breathe anymore from all their laughing? ;)
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Post by: SimplySurf on February 20, 2004, 07:02:29 AM
Quote from: Metalhawk
Lalime isn't really to blame tonight, but he proved again that he can't steal a game...


Exactly.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 20, 2004, 07:16:02 AM
Doc, Metal, I 'm glad your not putting the blame on him. They weren't softies he let in, but man, i am dissapointed AGAIN.
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Post by: plcamp on February 20, 2004, 08:00:29 AM
He COULD have made the good (not great) save but once again he did not.

While maybe you can't 'blame' Lalime for certain goals last night - this is a long long way from what this team needs in G to be a legit SC favorite.

We cannot win with Lalime. Period.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 20, 2004, 08:02:54 AM
Sens_Fan_6:
Quote
The Sens defense is a strong one, Billy, meaning that the goalie doesn't have the chance so often to actually STEAL a game except every once in awhile.


Actually we have had a load of games where Lalime should have stolen or at least preserved the win.

Just look at the amount of 1 goal games we lost.

Good D or no D you goalie will have to steal you games to get the cup.

Lalime cant steal us a game, period.
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Post by: Otherdave on February 20, 2004, 08:03:25 AM
Quote from: plcamp
We cannot win with Lalime. Period.


FOUR guys were caught facing the end boards, gaping at Randy Robitaille in the corner - including Redden and Hossa, who should friggin well know better. Last night was not Lalime's fault.

Other Dave
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Post by: plcamp on February 20, 2004, 08:29:50 AM
My poitn was that even if last night was not Lalime's 'fault' - he didn't make the not-so-difficult save that woudl have preserved the win either. he could have stopped the 1st and 3rd goals, can't blame him for not doing that, but should we not expect that he does stop those critical shots at critical times? Doesn't the 'average' G do that?

This guy simply isn't good enough for this team.
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Post by: Paddy on February 20, 2004, 08:31:02 AM
Lalime played and we lost, again!!

For all the arguments about whose fault these goals are, the fact remains when Lalime plays are chances of losing are better than when Prusek plays.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 20, 2004, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: Otherdave
Quote from: plcamp
We cannot win with Lalime. Period.


FOUR guys were caught facing the end boards, gaping at Randy Robitaille in the corner - including Redden and Hossa, who should friggin well know better. Last night was not Lalime's fault.

Other Dave


There ya go

Unfortunelty, most of these people did not watch the game last night. Because they're saying it was his fault.

For the OT goal, blame the PKwe who lunged to the point left one dman all by himself infront of Lalime, the second goal was a fluke, and the 1s fooled Lalime at hit Simpsons' leg and changed direction.
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Post by: mattsky99 on February 20, 2004, 09:38:40 AM
Some people will blame Lalime no matter what.  Is it not possible to lose a game without it being related to Patrick Lalime?  He made a few amazing saves Last Night when it was very important and cannot be blamed for a shot that was blindly rifled to the front of the net from the corner and bounced in off 6 people.  Lalime did all that was necessary
for the Sens to win yesterday and the team in front of him let him down.

The way I see it is our chances of winning with Lalime (the way he's playing right now) are pretty much as good as they would be with anyone
else who's available...look at Burke and even Brodeur lately.  Since
we're going to be stuck with him no matter what, why not try and be
supportive and do everything we can to help him get back to the quality
of play we know he is capable of.  If all of you are really sens fans and
really want the sens to win, do everything you can to help Patty get his
confidence back, since he's the only goalie that can help us get the cup this year.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Otherdave on February 20, 2004, 10:03:52 AM
Quote from: plcamp
he could have stopped the 1st and 3rd goals


Maybe, but he made a couple of stops last night he had no business making.

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This guy simply isn't good enough for this team.


Agreed. But he'll have to do.

Other Dave
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Post by: SimplySurf on February 20, 2004, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: docawesome
Unfortunelty, most of these people did not watch the game last night. Because they're saying it was his fault.


Are you stil hanging on to that comment... over and over and over...

The point is very simple doc. Lalime does not have the ability to step it up when its crunch time. More often than not, he does not step it up when he is required to do so.

People's opinions in this thread are a result of Lalime's play during the entire season. Thus far he has not proven that he can handle the pressure on most nights.
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Post by: danman on February 20, 2004, 10:28:33 AM
the trend continues.  has anyone else noticed this:
1-ottawa has a chance to get in first place in their division
2-they put lalime in net and ottawa loses
3-ottawa gets another chance to get first place
4-they put prusek in and they prevail
5-now that they are in first, they play lalime again only to lose and fall back to 2nd place
6-repeat steps 1-5

We have the same situation here as TO has.  When they got Belfour in net, they are strong!!!  When they have Kidd in net, they are very beatable.
When we got Prusek in net, we are strong!!!  When we have Lalime in net, we are very beatable.
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Post by: humanhighlightreel on February 20, 2004, 10:35:58 AM
The team doesn't play confident defensively in front of Lalime because they never know what they'll get. Will he let in that softie from 60 feet, or will he stone the opposition in close? You never know, and that's the problem with unreliable goaltending.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 20, 2004, 10:40:55 AM
Quote from: humanhighlightreel
The team doesn't play confident defensively in front of Lalime because they never know what they'll get. Will he let in that softie from 60 feet, or will he stone the opposition in close? You never know, and that's the problem with unreliable goaltending.


Yeah, I think I posted this earlier in this thread but I think it was Galley that said the team is nervous in front of him because they know they have to be perfect.

Even as a fan a cringe everytime I see someone coming down Lalime's right side and winding-up for a shot in the face-off circle.

Hell, I was nervous last night when one of the Atlanta D took a slapshot from his own blueline at the end of the second period. Seriously.
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 20, 2004, 10:59:56 AM
I watched the Washington game and the anouncers (can't remember their names) said something very interesting. One of the sens players took a shot on net to the short side (like the 4-5 goals scored against us in the Jersey series last year) of the net and the anouncer said he the shooter was going for an AHL goal. He then went on to explain that NHL caliber goaltender don't let those short side goals in from the top of the circle but in the AHL those goals are somewhat common.

Just made me think back to the Eastern Conference Finals last year. :roll:

BTW I watched the game last night and we really can't put all the blame on Lalime. Lalime has made it very clear, through his play, that he is not a clutch goaltender and we will not go far into the playoffs if he starts every game. I suspect we will get beat in the second round if he is our starter.
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Post by: Bidoup on February 20, 2004, 11:33:42 AM
just keep lalime out of the net........ we cant win with him. Rpusek did not allow more than 2 goals per game! Lalime made his time and now he suck....
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Post by: operasen on February 20, 2004, 12:43:18 PM
Quote from: Otherdave
Quote from: plcamp
he could have stopped the 1st and 3rd goals


Maybe, but he made a couple of stops last night he had no business making.


It quite true, there had to be at least three from back of the net to a guy waiting on the doorstep.  Nails there.

But that's what I can't figure out.  He makes those but not others, even when they are in front of him.  An Elite goalie would have stopped at least one of those goals.

I guess what we are all coming to grips with is that the Sens do not, at this time, have a perceived elite tender.  We are going to have to ride Lalime as far into the playoffs as we can - and most on this thread don't think that will be too far (me too).

And there is not an upgrade trade to be made that would not involve a core player going the other way.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 20, 2004, 12:49:34 PM
If he makes a great save, he will often follow it up with a weak goal. Or vice versa. Bottom line he steals us nothing, and is having a horrible year. Here we are saying were making a solid run at the cup but yet were willing to gamble the whole year on the hopes that Lalime finds his game. And what happens when he doesn't. Its time to stop worrying about the politics involved and just cut bait, file it all under inconsistency.
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Post by: OS on February 20, 2004, 01:21:52 PM
Quote
The team doesn't play confident defensively in front of Lalime because they never know what they'll get.


He only had 7 shots on goal in the first two periods and the D did a great job.


I'll defer to those who saw the game on TV on whether any of the goals were soft or not.   It was hard to tell from the other end of the ice in the 300s.   It just seemed like the Thrasers got two 2 on 1s and scored on both and Lalime couldn't come up with the big save.  

Aside from that, right from the initial warm-up onwards, he didn't excude the kind of confidence he usually does.  There were times he looked bewildered deciding to stay in or go out of his net.  His warm-up was awful and it was funny watching Pasi stop shot after shot while shot after shot went in the net past Lalime.  I know that doesn't mean a ton but he sure didn't have a swagger on out there.   I cringed with every Thrasher rush.

Maybe he shouldn't be hung up because of the goals but I didn't like what I saw through the game.
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Post by: andrewebel on February 20, 2004, 02:17:50 PM
On tv, he sure didn't look confident either.  It just doesn't look like he's seeing the puck very well. Plus, I was very nervous every time he went out of the crease to play the puck.
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Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on February 20, 2004, 02:23:21 PM
...... I've just edited this 6 times... I'm going out for a Guinness. :wink: :drink:
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Post by: TorontoGirl on February 20, 2004, 02:53:06 PM
Did you guys see Lalime's new commercial where he tries to win the Vezina trophy...

Oh, wait...that was Gretzky.
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Post by: operasen on February 20, 2004, 05:18:18 PM
Nice Togirl.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 20, 2004, 05:59:14 PM
Lalime can't make every SAVE in the game. In fact no goalie can make every save.

Every goal Lalime let's in is not always a weak one. Sometimes you can't stop the pucks in certain situations. Last night, those goals went in unusual ways, they weren't just the routine types of shots taken on net. One goal was off of Kolvachuk's foot, and the first one went of Simpson also.
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Post by: SENSfreak_03 on February 20, 2004, 08:23:13 PM
anyone catch powerplay on tsn? they miller said he talked to muckler, and he said lalime was going to be our guy, and that he is not looking around. muckler generaly doesnt lie, hes a pretty honest guy. if he was up to something, we would of heard the "no comment". they went on to talk about the bill ranford example, 7-2 in the first game with edmonton in the playoffs...owner complained, muckler said, this is the guy were going with. they eneded up winning the cup. obviously lalime isnt ranford, but im willing to give this guy the benifit of the doubt. i still hold hope that patty can turn it around. if not, i would have confidence in prusek as well.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 20, 2004, 08:23:19 PM
Quote from: GoHabsGo
Quote from: docawesome
Unfortunelty, most of these people did not watch the game last night. Because they're saying it was his fault.






The point is very simple doc. Lalime does not have the ability to step it up when its crunch time. More often than not, he does not step it up when he is required to do so.


I was talking about LAST NIGHT's game ALL along. The loss yesterday was NOT his fault. Got that? So don't talk to me about his clutch -- I created PAL because of his clutchlessness -- Lalime not being a clutch goalie is NOT the issue here.
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Post by: Paddy on February 21, 2004, 02:31:57 PM
1-0 Calgary - Let me guess, not his fault?? :roll:
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Post by: SENSfreak_03 on February 21, 2004, 02:51:21 PM
that one was his fault. he was looking right at it as it went by him, a little floater from the point that went right under him. bad goal indeed. he was screened, but you see him look around the defender and hes looking at his pad as it goes under it.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 21, 2004, 03:56:32 PM
Muckler here's what we think of the 1st goal:

Quote
Another softie.


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GET LALIME OUT OF THE NET!!!!!


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Thats a bad goal by Lalime. Right under his pad.


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The ONE time he doesn't go down early... *sigh*


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When is the next meeting of PAL????


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i was hoping it got deflected so i could use an excuse..


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anyone actually still think this team will go anywhere with Lalime in nets?


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No tip, nuthin. Absolutely sickening. A basic fundamental mistake.
Pull him.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 21, 2004, 04:11:54 PM
Its 2-1 right now. Lets see if Lalime stands tall.
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Post by: Dagwood on February 21, 2004, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Its 2-1 right now. Lets see if Lalime stands tall.


He did on that last chance for Calgary. He didn't know where it was, but he got in front of it and that's all that mattered for today.
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Post by: SENSfreak_03 on February 21, 2004, 04:37:40 PM
hopefully that clutch save for a change will give lalime some confidence, and we can have the old patty back
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 21, 2004, 04:38:01 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Quote from: docawesome
Its 2-1 right now. Lets see if Lalime stands tall.


He did on that last chance for Calgary. He didn't know where it was, but he got in front of it and that's all that mattered for today.


Yeah, the puck was in front of him on the rebound and he was still looking to his left for it.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 21, 2004, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Quote from: docawesome
Its 2-1 right now. Lets see if Lalime stands tall.


He did on that last chance for Calgary. He didn't know where it was, but he got in front of it and that's all that mattered for today.


He made a big save that preserved the lead and the win.
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Post by: plcamp on February 21, 2004, 04:42:22 PM
Whew, we actually won with Lalime. Amazing.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 21, 2004, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Whew, we actually won with Lalime. Amazing.


better get used to it or pack you bags and go golfing.

He's only lost 1 out of his last 5.

Tonight was a big confidence booster for him. Keep it up Lalime, Muckler, Martin and the team have faith in you. Who give a rats a** about what some people on the net think.

BTW Dallas, March is almost here and Lalime's still #1.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 21, 2004, 04:54:51 PM
Bad goal to start, but he redeemed himself with the game winner at the end at least.

Still has a way to go, but at least this time it didn't fall apart and he shut the door after that bad goal. The best news of course is we won.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 21, 2004, 04:57:06 PM
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 21, 2004, 05:01:53 PM
He made that save at the end which was what mattered the most.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 21, 2004, 05:04:12 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:


I have blessed my presence almost every single time.

I wasn't on after the game last night, and yesterday I didn't feel like having to argue yet again. Besides, I said what I thought in other threads.

So  :P
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 21, 2004, 05:07:42 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: docawesome
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:


I have blessed my presence almost every single time.

I wasn't on after the game last night, and yesterday I didn't feel like having to argue yet again. Besides, I said what I thought in other threads.

So  :P


Actually, after the OT loss, people here were on Lalime's side. So :P to you too. ;)
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 21, 2004, 05:09:46 PM
Really?

Oh bollocks! :lol:
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Post by: Docawesome on February 21, 2004, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: Metalhawk
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: docawesome
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:


I have blessed my presence almost every single time.

I wasn't on after the game last night, and yesterday I didn't feel like having to argue yet again. Besides, I said what I thought in other threads.

So  :P


Actually, after the OT loss, people here were on Lalime's side. So :P to you too. ;)


Yes, they were. Except a couple of newbies.  :P  :lol:
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 21, 2004, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Metalhawk
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: docawesome
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:


I have blessed my presence almost every single time.

I wasn't on after the game last night, and yesterday I didn't feel like having to argue yet again. Besides, I said what I thought in other threads.

So  :P


Actually, after the OT loss, people here were on Lalime's side. So :P to you too. ;)


Yes, they were. Except a couple of newbies.  :P  :lol:


It's n00bs. :P
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 21, 2004, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:


I usually do, go see for yourself. But I only post once and it usually contains the word "disapointed".

i did notice you were sticking up for him last game....metal too. I thanked him for it. :) I was disspointed though.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 21, 2004, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: docawesome
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:


I usually do, go see for yourself. But I only post once and it usually contains the word "disapointed".

i did notice you were sticking up for him last game....metal too. I thanked him for it. :) I was disspointed though.


Most of the people here are reasonable. Give him credit when he deserves it, and bash him when he doesn't.  :lol:
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Post by: interzone on February 21, 2004, 06:48:23 PM
Lalime was sharp tonight, making a clutch save in the dying seconds. Despite the soft-goal that put Calgary up 1-0, I think he rebounded after that, and had a great game overall.

His play has definitely picked up since he imploded before the All-Star break, and while he hasn't been spectacular, I think in the best-case scenario, he peaks in the playoffs.
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Post by: SzuperChicky on February 22, 2004, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: docawesome
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:


I usually do, go see for yourself. But I only post once and it usually contains the word "disapointed".

i did notice you were sticking up for him last game....metal too. I thanked him for it. :) I was disspointed though.


Most of the people here are reasonable. Give him credit when he deserves it, and bash him when he doesn't.  :lol:


It's more like, bash him when Ottawa loses.   :?
 8)
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Post by: Docawesome on February 22, 2004, 12:53:56 AM
Quote from: szuperwoman
Quote from: docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: docawesome
Jenn, and Lalime40, howcome you don't bless us with your presence when Lalime loses?  :wink:


I usually do, go see for yourself. But I only post once and it usually contains the word "disapointed".

i did notice you were sticking up for him last game....metal too. I thanked him for it. :) I was disspointed though.


Most of the people here are reasonable. Give him credit when he deserves it, and bash him when he doesn't.  :lol:


It's more like, bash him when Ottawa loses.   :?
 8)


quiet you.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 22, 2004, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Bad goal to start, but he redeemed himself with the game winner at the end at least.

Still has a way to go, but at least this time it didn't fall apart and he shut the door after that bad goal. The best news of course is we won.


That was a fluke save --- he looked behind him -- he had no idea where it was! I'll give him credit for his positioning -- but he had no idea where it was.

I couldn't tell at the game --- but when I saw the replay at home --- that first goal was abysmal!!!! Absolutely brutal. And there were a few long shots that went through him ---- good thing the were high or wide.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 22, 2004, 11:37:26 AM
thirsty......if a shot is high or wide, of course it's gonna go though him. He's postitioined to stop the ones one their way in....not around above and everywhere else. He's got enough of a job trying to stop the ones headed to the back of the net to worry about ones that go wide or high.  THat's what the D is for.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 22, 2004, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
thirsty......if a shot is high or wide, of course it's gonna go though him. He's postitioined to stop the ones one their way in....not around above and everywhere else. He's got enough of a job trying to stop the ones headed to the back of the net to worry about ones that go wide or high.  THat's what the D is for.


As I was typing I just pictured someone giving that response --- glad you didn't disappoint. ;)

If he reaches out with his glove to catch the puck and it goes past him --- it doesn't instill confidence in me that he was lucky that the shot was wide. I'm not talking about shots five feet away from the net --- I'm talking about ones that were close enough that he attempted to stop them and he didn't.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 23, 2004, 10:18:30 AM
he reaches out to touch it to be better safe than sorry. He'll try for anything that remotley looks like its headed in. however, due to the fact that it is high or wide, he won't be able to reach it and it will "go through him" like you say. You can't complain that he doesn't stop these ones. He's not supposed to and can't due to them being out of reach.
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Post by: plcamp on February 24, 2004, 12:00:18 PM
Here's an update

Goalie   gf/g   ga/g
Prusek   3.5   1.8
Lalime   3.2   2.3


Ottawa scores more and lets in fewer goals when Lalime doesn't play.
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Post by: plcamp on February 24, 2004, 12:04:58 PM
This means that every 10 games, Ottawa's goal differential would be 17.2 with Prusek and 8.8 with Lalime.

Therefore we conclude that Ottawa is a 95.5% better team when Lalime doesn't play!

Isn't my logic impeccable?
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 24, 2004, 12:50:11 PM
not really. you are comparing a back up to a started. The starter sees alot more games.

if your counting goal against then:
Grahams' stats are better than Boulin's

Esche's are better than Burke's.

Legace's are better that both Hasek's and CUjo's

point proven.

I still don't see how the goaltenders affects the number of goals we get. maybe the number we let in, but not the ones we score. I haven't seen Prusek or Lalime score a goal this season.
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Post by: OS on February 24, 2004, 01:23:12 PM
Patty's work this season is being noted by the Hockey News.  He's #21 in their goalie rankings:

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21. Patrick Lalime, Ottawa (22)
This Week: .919, 1.50, 2-0-0
Season: .906, 2.27, 20-15-6
Notable: Has three wins in a row, which followed four losses in a row, which followed three wins in a row.


The full article is here: http://www.thehockeynews.com/en/headlines/news.asp?cat=976525211371&lieu=16&idMenu=11&idMenuItem=68
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 24, 2004, 01:25:57 PM
21 is not so hot. :(
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 24, 2004, 01:28:53 PM
I check out your list there.....

it's odd Prusek is ranked below Lalime considereing each of there performances this season.

THis one is interesting as well.

"8. Jose Theodore, Montreal (3)
This Week: .867, 4.34, 0-3-0
Season: .922, 2.20, 22-22-5
Notable: Going through a slump in which he’s lost four starts in a row"


Hope that's still the case for tonights game. Inconsitent Mr Theodore. Don't repeat last year.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 24, 2004, 02:44:08 PM
there is one thing people are forgetting, since the all star break Lalime has played well, he has been solid. even the one goal the other day Calgary scored. that was screened by three players,  on the replay i saw, he had no chance,   he has been solid since the break, and hopefully he stays that way!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Metalhawk on February 24, 2004, 03:17:07 PM
Lalime didn't make the "big" stop against Calgary. After the puck hit him, he was looking behind him. That was a lucky stop...
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 24, 2004, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: Metalhawk
Lalime didn't make the "big" stop against Calgary. After the puck hit him, he was looking behind him. That was a lucky stop...


Give the kid a break - he was in the right position and made the big save in the last minute!  It was huge - for the sake of his mental health please give the poor guy that much at this point!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BlindDruid on February 24, 2004, 03:45:28 PM
Has anyone considered the fact that a lot of these softie goals were allowed for the reason of psyching out the opponent in the long run. Can you imagine in the playoffs how over confident the opponents will be when they see Lalime in the other net only for him to suddenyl turn it on and be rock solid?  It will devastate them.  Dont you just find it amazing that despite Lalime's supposed mediochre play and Prusek's hot and cold netminding that they are at the top of the standings and that they have the complete backing of the coaching and administrative staff?  

Ok I have way to much time on my hands today, but hey its a nice theory anyway.
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Post by: plcamp on February 24, 2004, 04:01:13 PM
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I still don't see how the goaltenders affects the number of goals we get. maybe the number we let in, but not the ones we score. I haven't seen Prusek or Lalime score a goal this season.


Here's two theories as to how G selection can dominate your goal productivity. You can't debate that this is the case, because the real numbers show that it is the case.

1) Team has less confidence in Lalime, and therefore plays more conservatively.

2) Lalime lets in the early goal, therefore the other team plays a more defensive game and it is harder to score.

Clearly, Ottawa scores MUCH more frequently and gets scored upon MUCH less frequently when Lalime does not play.

And that's all that matters.
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Post by: Senturion on February 24, 2004, 04:34:52 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Quote
I still don't see how the goaltenders affects the number of goals we get. maybe the number we let in, but not the ones we score. I haven't seen Prusek or Lalime score a goal this season.


Here's two theories as to how G selection can dominate your goal productivity. You can't debate that this is the case, because the real numbers show that it is the case.

1) Team has less confidence in Lalime, and therefore plays more conservatively.

2) Lalime lets in the early goal, therefore the other team plays a more defensive game and it is harder to score.

Clearly, Ottawa scores MUCH more frequently and gets scored upon MUCH less frequently when Lalime does not play.

And that's all that matters.


How true is this!

I hate to say this, but if JM won't open his eyes, I may have to place an injury hex upon Lalime! :evil:

I've kept my yap shut for a long time on this topic, and just recently reached my point of tolerance, and here I am.
Lalime is a backup netminder, plain and simple.
Why do so many of you refuse to open your eyes and see this?
WHY???
Is it because you have no choice but to accept it, or is it because you actually think he's any good?
Please, I need to know!
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 24, 2004, 04:37:32 PM
I actually do think he's any good. Clearly so does our GM, our coach, our entire team, and a whole bunch load of fans.

However, Lalime has a had a sub-par year and has been inconsistent. Our best hope is that he turns it around. Since the all-star break I say he's been heading down that path. Besides which, I not sure he could have sunk any lower than he did after the Leafs game. :?
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Post by: plcamp on February 24, 2004, 04:57:18 PM
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Our best hope is that he turns it around.


I think that unfortunately you are right here, but I would suggest the word 'best' should be replaced with the word 'faint'.

For why on earth shoudl we expect lalime to become substantially better? Has someone got a secret box of pixie dust they're gonna sprinkle in his underwear just before the playoffs?

Maybe we can convince Burger King to give Paddy a free pass on cheeseburgers so he can plump up to 800 or so lbs before the playoffs - wedge him in the net with 2x4's - for unless he does something like that - plugging the net entirely, I cannot see how he'll be able to make the saves we are surely gonna need.

I'm really really worried about our G. We cannot be SC favorites with this guy on the team.
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Post by: Docawesome on February 24, 2004, 08:43:11 PM
This is the Lalime from last season minus the jersey series. Make the 2 or 3 big saves and your team will take care of the rest.
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Post by: leafnation on February 24, 2004, 08:53:02 PM
Is this thread really 197 pages about Lalime?


And also, what is this 'PAL' deal I keep seeing?
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Post by: Docawesome on February 24, 2004, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: leafnation


And also, what is this 'PAL' deal I keep seeing?


Its an organization that is against Lalime.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 24, 2004, 09:28:48 PM
I'll blame him for the 2nd goal. As usual, down early.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 24, 2004, 09:31:07 PM
Bad 2nd goal. Oddly enough, apart from that and his puck handling, I thought he had a very strong game. Made a couple of nice saves.

I'm more concerned about the lack of production from Hossa at the moment. :shock: Different thread though.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: jubejubed on February 24, 2004, 09:31:39 PM
1st Wasn't his fault. Chara didn't cover Ryder, he was left wide open.
2nd He should have had it, I agree with doc, it's his bad.
3rd I didn't see so can't comment on.
4th... well duh
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: leafnation on February 24, 2004, 09:32:43 PM
Quote from: docawesome
Its an organization that is against Lalime.


What does it stand for?
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Post by: Senscore on February 24, 2004, 09:37:48 PM
Lalime played pretty good tonight, and made some key saves late in the game.



The last one was questionable interference, as I don't think Lalime could move much with the Habs player's skate between his pads.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 24, 2004, 09:38:17 PM
Quote from: leafnation
Quote from: docawesome
Its an organization that is against Lalime.


What does it stand for?


People Against Lalime. :lol:
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 24, 2004, 09:40:23 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Bad 2nd goal. Oddly enough, apart from that and his puck handling, I thought he had a very strong game. Made a couple of nice saves.

I'm more concerned about the lack of production from Hossa at the moment. :shock: Different thread though.


I thought Lalime was fine - but because of the amount of times he not only played the puck poorly - but literally took the puck away from our own defensemen I have to say Lalime was crappy tonight and screwed up a lot of easy breakouts!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: leafnation on February 24, 2004, 09:40:30 PM
Is that like PAQ?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 24, 2004, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Bad 2nd goal. Oddly enough, apart from that and his puck handling, I thought he had a very strong game. Made a couple of nice saves.

I'm more concerned about the lack of production from Hossa at the moment. :shock: Different thread though.


I thought Lalime was fine - but because of the amount of times he not only played the puck poorly - but literally took the puck away from our own defensemen I have to say Lalime was crappy tonight and screwed up a lot of easy breakouts!


His puck handling was worse than usual tonight. Except he covered up for his mistakes there...(well, one lead to the Sens getting a penalty, so it was indirectly responsible for one goal in a round about way).

Anyway....I think there were more pressing concerns tonight that didn't involve our goaltending....
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 24, 2004, 09:44:31 PM
FLush another 2 points down the drain....
You could hear Phillips yelling "Leave it, Leave it!" and yet Lalime skates out and play's the puck. Nearly costing a goal in the first. I have seen him do that here too against Pitts on boxing day. Why doesn't he listen?

His positioning on the second goal was average for Lalime to say the worst. It was a horrible save, of course, but yet somehow status quo, and acceptable to JM. The spiral downward continues. He's costing us too much, and I am sure that only come midnight Mar 9 will we be 100% that all this "he's our man" crap is legit. Right now I think it's a heaping steamy load of hogwash and the sens are trying everything to give Lalime one last chance. So far, he's failing.

Another blown lead. Like I said, he sucks.

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GOT PAL?
:lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on February 24, 2004, 09:45:48 PM
Quote from: leafnation
Is that like PAQ?


Yup.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on February 24, 2004, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Bad 2nd goal. Oddly enough, apart from that and his puck handling, I thought he had a very strong game. Made a couple of nice saves.

I'm more concerned about the lack of production from Hossa at the moment. :shock: Different thread though.


I thought Lalime was fine - but because of the amount of times he not only played the puck poorly - but literally took the puck away from our own defensemen I have to say Lalime was crappy tonight and screwed up a lot of easy breakouts!


His puck handling was worse than usual tonight. Except he covered up for his mistakes there...(well, one lead to the Sens getting a penalty, so it was indirectly responsible for one goal in a round about way).

Anyway....I think there were more pressing concerns tonight that didn't involve our goaltending....


Oh I agree - EFFORT - Hossa Alfie Chara Spezza Shaefer etc. - I'm just saying Lalime has to smarten up in terms of his decision making when playing the puck!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 24, 2004, 09:47:58 PM
Yeah - like NOT playing the puck at all!! ;)

Actually, it was quite funny during the broadcast when Pierre Maguire told Lalime to stop handling the puck ;)
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Post by: SENSfreak_03 on February 24, 2004, 09:56:28 PM
maybe we should impose the no play the puck rule now just to lalime??
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 24, 2004, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: SENSfreak_03
maybe we should impose the no play the puck rule now just to lalime??


ya alright that might work!  :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 25, 2004, 01:47:23 AM
Lalime's puck handling was horrible tonight, but he made some good saves throughout the game.
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Post by: Paddy on February 25, 2004, 08:00:16 PM
Personally, I don't blame Lalime for last night's loss but there does seem to be a pattern of us losing when he is in nets, especially in the last minutes of the game. Often time it's his own fault, sometimes it isn't but the fact remains we lose more often with him in nets. :(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: danman on February 25, 2004, 09:25:29 PM
every night Lalime plays, he gives us a chance lose.  No matter how you look at it, when Prusek's in net the team wins.
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Post by: plcamp on February 25, 2004, 10:19:03 PM
Curious situation in the Ottawa G. Think about it.

The argument goes something like this -

"Lalime isn't playing well, therefore we must play him more."

Now that's kinda like saying...

"That last billion dollar rocket we just launched blew up and killed two astronauts. Therefore we should do it again and see if that still happens. Moreover we should keep doing it again and again until it stops."

Now JM said after the Mtl game that he thought Lalime 'held us in the game'. I have always wondered how well coaches can see games from the bench. Now I know.

So here we Sens fans sit, watching our ready-to-be-champions-team being continuously frustrated by sub-par-Jr-B goaltending quality - and the response is "Lalime isn't playing well, therefore we must play him more"

Well the emperor's new clothes are not as stunning as rumours state. Lalime is a POOR goaltender, that no-one with any genuine determination to see a Senators Stanley Cup should tolerate.

Ask yourself this - is there ANY G in the NHL who you would expect would be worse (if playing behind Ottawa's team) than Lalime this year? This G totally sucks - and any of you who even think about disputing that need to first define what evidence you haven't already seen would convince you that I'm right on this.

Stick Lalime on waivers - there is simply nothing to win and everything to lose by clinging onto the absurd 'faith' that this loser can become the G that Ottawa needs to secure Stanley. I know it, you know it, and the only reason lalime is still there is because Ottawa fans continue to tolerate it.

Dump Lalime NOW. It is not possible to do worse with any other G.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 25, 2004, 10:25:08 PM
The second goal was the truning point. But then again Fisher scored almost the exact goal on Theadore --- so I guess we can off-set those ones.

But seriously --- that's a stop that Lalime HAS to make. He makes that stop and we can play a more defensive game to the end instead of trying to pot the winner.

The third goal was just poor defensive zone coverage --- Rachunek took himself out of the play blocking the shots and Reds didn't/couldn't clear the front of the net.

That's been a huge problem ... but that's also for another thread.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 25, 2004, 10:27:55 PM
Quote from: plcamp
"That last billion dollar rocket we just launched blew up and killed two astronauts. Therefore we should do it again and see if that still happens. Moreover we should keep doing it again and again until it stops."


Isn't that what NASA does? ;)
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 25, 2004, 10:46:37 PM
As long as he can preserve the lead, than that's all the matters. I don't even care anymore about the early goals he lets in. If he can just maintain the lead, then I'll be a happy fan.

Speaking of the game yesterday, I don't think it was Lalime's fault on that third goal. He was not the reason why the Sens lost yesterday.
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Post by: OS on February 25, 2004, 10:47:22 PM
I've slagged him plenty, so credit where it is due.  Lalime played a good solid game against Montreal.   What I liked was he played with more confidence and had more movement around the crease with better reaction.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 25, 2004, 10:51:33 PM
He's also reading the puck well through traffic, something I felt he was struggling a bit with earlier in the season.
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Post by: plcamp on February 25, 2004, 11:06:49 PM
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He was not the reason why the Sens lost yesterday.


But much more importantly, he's never the reason they win and often the reason they don't.

And anyone else available can't be worse, so why not try that?

Or at least make him the backup.
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Post by: plcamp on February 25, 2004, 11:09:15 PM
Quote
Isn't that what NASA does?


The price we sometimes pay for progress?
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Post by: BingoSensFan on February 26, 2004, 01:18:36 AM
Call me stupid, but what does this "PAL" mean?  The only thing I can think of is "Prusek and Lalime."   :?:
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Post by: BingoSensFan on February 26, 2004, 01:30:04 AM
Lalime is bad at playing the puck, but Prusek is far worse.  No Czech goaltender has any idea what to do with the puck.  But Prusek is smart enough not to go out there and look like a fool with it.  If the league decides goalies can't play the puck, these two will breathe a sigh of relief along with their fans.
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Post by: TrentBlue on February 26, 2004, 01:35:39 AM
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Lalime is bad at playing the puck, but Prusek is far worse.  No Czech goaltender has any idea what to do with the puck.  But Prusek is smart enough not to go out there and look like a fool with it.  If the league decides goalies can't play the puck, these two will breathe a sigh of relief along with their fans.


can Emery play the puck at all?  He can't possibly be worse than Prusek and Lalime!   :lol:
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Post by: BingoSensFan on February 26, 2004, 02:15:42 AM
Emery's not the best, but he's definitely better then Lalime and Prusek at playing the puck.
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 26, 2004, 02:16:20 AM
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Call me stupid, but what does this "PAL" mean?  The only thing I can think of is "Prusek and Lalime."   :?:


People Against Lalime
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BingoSensFan on February 26, 2004, 03:22:11 AM
Oh geez.  I'll take membership.
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Post by: JustLearning on February 26, 2004, 06:32:15 AM
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Oh geez.  I'll take membership.
Membership is free...just remember to leave any high expectations of Lalime at the door :(
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 26, 2004, 07:08:06 AM
my post here got erased too.

I didn't see the game as I unexpectedly receivd tickets to the BareNaked ladies. They were good.

I am dis-apointed we lost to Montreal again. I guess they were just trying harder eh? 19 shots to 28? What happened to our offence out there?

I heard Lalime let in a high glove side softie on his second goal. My questions, is, Why was the Candiens top scorer given 2 great chances against us? Where was our D? The 2nd one clearly beat Lalime, yet the replay on TV I saw was followed by an identical goal on Brodeur and Legace. I heard Fish scored a similar one on Theodore.  Some shots are just that fast I guess, not totally his fault, though had he stopped it, we may have won or at least tied for a point. He did't look too out of postion for it either. He just missed it with his blocker.

All in all, it sounds more like the O and D were the reason for our loss. But then again, i missed the game and am only going on replay's and articles based on the opinions of others.
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Post by: JustLearning on February 26, 2004, 07:37:14 AM
Sorry about some of the posts disappearing...When the transfer was made we did lose a couple as the backup system probably didn't catch the last few posts before the move was made.
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Post by: OS on February 26, 2004, 11:10:29 AM
Tonight is an important game for Lalime.  He needs to build on the good competent effort of the last game and NOT backslide into the horrid form from before the break.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 26, 2004, 11:23:25 AM
Lalime owns the Flyers. He should be fine tonight, particuarly as he's been fine the last few games anyway.

My concerns at this point are outside the goal crease. If it's not one thing, it's another :roll:
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Post by: Rumble on February 26, 2004, 02:20:31 PM
Lalime is fine. Our defense just needs to work harder at clearing the front of the net. It's becoming increasingly obvious that our guys can't move the opposition from the front of the net (especially Redden and Rachunek) and as a result Lalime either can't see the puck or can't react quickly enough to a deflection that occurs 2 feet in front of him. Most of the goals against recently have been screens, in-tight deflections, or rebounds.

Our defense has to learn to move the opposing players from the front of the net, then we'll see Lalime's stats magically rise.

P4L
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 26, 2004, 02:48:23 PM
Lalime is definitely not fine. I think we lose big tonight with Llaime in nets. I would guess 6-1 for the flyers with Lalime giving up two weak goals in the first period, and Ottawa having to open up defensively and then getting burned.

Lalime owns nothing, 29 teams own him, including Pit.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 26, 2004, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: Rumble
Most of the goals against recently have been screens, in-tight deflections, or rebounds.


I don't totally disagree with your comment, the Sens do need to play better in their own zone, but Lalime lets in many softies from the faceoff circles and two from almost centre ice this season --- not screened. The book on Lalime is obviously to shoot short-side high --- it's a very high percentage shot on him that is nicknamed the 'AHL goal' because most NHL goalies don't let that one get by them. Lalime is far from alright and even he, Jacques and Mucks have admited that he has struggled and needs to improve.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 26, 2004, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Lalime is definitely not fine. I think we lose big tonight with Llaime in nets. I would guess 6-1 for the flyers with Lalime giving up two weak goals in the first period, and Ottawa having to open up defensively and then getting burned.

Lalime owns nothing, 29 teams own him, including Pit.


Look who's head pops out from under the dirt.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 26, 2004, 03:23:34 PM
Jeez, Its not like the team loses everytime Lalime is in nets, Dallas :roll:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 26, 2004, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Jeez, Its not like the team loses everytime Lalime is in nets, Dallas :roll:


LOL! His timing is lousy too. Not only has he played reasonably well lately, but tonight he plays against Philly - arguably the team he has had the best success against!
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Post by: kjs on February 26, 2004, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Curious situation in the Ottawa G. Think about it.

The argument goes something like this -

"Lalime isn't playing well, therefore we must play him more."




Whose argument?  Has anyone on this board recently argued that JM should be playing Lalime even more than he already is?

Perhaps PLC is inventing strawmen to knock down.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 26, 2004, 04:14:38 PM
ok you cannot blame lalime everytime a game is lost, he made some huge huge saves, yes one goal was soft,  but just one, and he kept the team alive and gave  them a chance to win for the most part, but none of the team looked great, he has been consistent lately, and as I think someone said, if he had one week game every 5 or 6 games it wouldnt matter, well that could be a week game, after about 5 good ones
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Post by: DocHollywood on February 26, 2004, 04:18:26 PM
Lalime should be played more right now. There is no way in hell you can go into the playoffs with Prusek. No experience at all and Lalime has been great in previous playoffs. He will do just fine for us in the playoffs. Totally different game and he will adapt. Have some faith ;)
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 26, 2004, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Jeez, Its not like the team loses everytime Lalime is in nets, Dallas :roll:


LOL! His timing is lousy too. Not only has he played reasonably well lately, but tonight he plays against Philly - arguably the team he has had the best success against!


I agree, Lalime's been been playing well lately.
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Post by: fisher12 on February 26, 2004, 04:53:37 PM
Quote from: DocHollywood
Lalime should be played more right now. There is no way in hell you can go into the playoffs with Prusek. No experience at all and Lalime has been great in previous playoffs. He will do just fine for us in the playoffs. Totally different game and he will adapt. Have some faith ;)


Prusek is going to have to go into the playoffs sooner or later...
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Post by: humanhighlightreel on February 26, 2004, 05:07:57 PM
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yes one goal was soft, but just one


Yes, but it's ONE PER GAME. One per game, even one per 3 games, is unnacceptable on a Stanley Cup contender.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 26, 2004, 05:16:54 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Lalime is definitely not fine. I think we lose big tonight with Llaime in nets. I would guess 6-1 for the flyers with Lalime giving up two weak goals in the first period, and Ottawa having to open up defensively and then getting burned.

Lalime owns nothing, 29 teams own him, including Pit.



pretty bold statement Dallas. I'll be back tommorrow. :)

March is almost here buddy, got your words ready to eat?
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 26, 2004, 10:21:09 PM
Tonight he was solid. Didn't have to do much, but made the saves when he had to. No soft goals. Another good game now in the books. Must say I'm quite relieved. Overall, he does seem to be turning it around. :) Plays like he did tonight, we'll be fine in the playoffs.

Now he just has to keep on doing it again and again and again! :D
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 26, 2004, 10:26:57 PM
He played well today and made the clutch save in the end.
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Post by: Senscore on February 26, 2004, 10:39:31 PM
What we saw out there was playoff lalime.


Just wish everyone esle would play like he did.
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Post by: OS on February 27, 2004, 02:03:13 AM
Crossing fingers.  That's two good games in a row now.  He was out challenging shooters and had good movement too.
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Post by: Metalhawk on February 27, 2004, 02:44:17 AM
Good game tonight by PL.
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 27, 2004, 07:02:36 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Lalime is definitely not fine. I think we lose big tonight with Llaime in nets. I would guess 6-1 for the flyers with Lalime giving up two weak goals in the first period, and Ottawa having to open up defensively and then getting burned.

Lalime owns nothing, 29 teams own him, including Pit.



pretty bold statement Dallas. I'll be back tommorrow. :)

March is almost here buddy, got your words ready to eat?


If he turns it up I'll have no problem at all eating my words. I hope he does and I hope I do, just like yesterday. I'm eating my words from yesterday :?

I was at the game last night....   :D
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Post by: DallasSENSFan on February 27, 2004, 07:07:57 AM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Jeez, Its not like the team loses everytime Lalime is in nets, Dallas :roll:


LOL! His timing is lousy too. Not only has he played reasonably well lately, but tonight he plays against Philly - arguably the team he has had the best success against!


If you call the last few games Lalime has played "well" then we are definitly going nowhere in the playoffs with him! I will admit he played ok last night, he stopped the shots he should have. But he is definitely not playing "well".

Thanks for the warm welcome back :wink:
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 27, 2004, 07:45:59 AM
Start munching Dallas!!! HA! You couldn't have been more wrong with your prediction.


March is only 3 days away now and He's still number #1!

Good game by Lalime last night.

He has been playing well since the all start break.
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on February 27, 2004, 08:16:22 AM
Lalime was not tested at all for the most part. I think he did play a fairly good game though, better than some of the turds he's dropped previously.Whenever he only lets in 1 goal, thats great in my books. Whever our offence only scores 1 goal, that goes into the bad book.

I think its safe to say the game was won and lost in the neutral zone tonight, as well as special teams as usual.
If Philli would have had Roenick /Desjardins theres an excellent chance Lalime would have fallen victim to his blunders.

For the most part though he did make a couple of good saves , but he did not see nearly enough action to say "HE's BACK!"

We wont know that until the playoffs really, thats when the true test is.

The first goal would never have gone in on an elite goalie. Brodeur, Turco, Louongo and Co. all are known to deflect a puck as soon as it comes towards the blue paint. Had lalime poked his stick out, he would have easily knocked it out of the slot to the far corner. You see that all the time in NJ.

He watched as the puck sailed through the crease not even a foot from his stick... Of course there will be a Flyer there! Get the puck out of there I say. He also was bobbling a few straight on shots, particularily in the first.
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Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on February 27, 2004, 09:10:15 AM
Lalime did play well last night and better yet --- the guys played really well for the most part in front of him. They kept Philly to the outside most of the night and did a better job of obstructing/holding and clutching in the defensive zone.

Lalime's positional play was much better and he was making better decisions. Hopefully this was one to build on and a big confidence boost for him.
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Post by: plcamp on February 27, 2004, 09:38:19 AM
I thought PL was good last night, not tested too much but good nonetheless.
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Post by: OS on February 27, 2004, 10:03:47 AM
It's baby steps.   The team is playing superb in front of him too, with another sub-20 shot night.
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Post by: Lalime40 on February 27, 2004, 11:05:28 AM
wow, it really means alot hearing that from you guys. It's good to see you giving him some credit when deserved.

It's true, he wasn't tested much last night, but was there when needed. Had he been playing like he was before the break or in November, he woudl have lost a game like last night's. So this is a good sign of (hopefully) more to come.

I didn't think he had a chance on that goal, it was fast, but whatever.


Burke was awesome last night.
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Post by: JustLearning on February 27, 2004, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
wow, it really means alot hearing that from you guys. It's good to see you giving him some credit when deserved.

It's true, he wasn't tested much last night, but was there when needed. Had he been playing like he was before the break or in November, he woudl have lost a game like last night's. So this is a good sign of (hopefully) more to come.

I didn't think he had a chance on that goal, it was fast, but whatever.


Burke was awesome last night.
I do have to admit that Patrick was good last night...sharp and on his game.

Burke....he was also very good. One incident that I didn't like was when Daniel landed in back of the net and Burke gave him a couple of punches to the head while he was down. When Daniel finally got up and tried to leave, Burke grabbed his jersey and wouldn't let him. He finally let go after Daniel managed to get out of reach...no call for anything and the ref was watching (or appeared to be watching) the whole incident...I guess near the end of the game everything short of murder goes :(
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on February 27, 2004, 11:32:43 AM
Quote from: justlearning
Quote from: Lalime40
wow, it really means alot hearing that from you guys. It's good to see you giving him some credit when deserved.

It's true, he wasn't tested much last night, but was there when needed. Had he been playing like he was before the break or in November, he woudl have lost a game like last night's. So this is a good sign of (hopefully) more to come.

I didn't think he had a chance on that goal, it was fast, but whatever.


Burke was awesome last night.
I do have to admit that Patrick was good last night...sharp and on his game.

Burke....he was also very good. One incident that I didn't like was when Daniel landed in back of the net and Burke gave him a couple of punches to the head while he was down. When Daniel finally got up and tried to leave, Burke grabbed his jersey and wouldn't let him. He finally let go after Daniel managed to get out of reach...no call for anything and the ref was watching (or appeared to be watching) the whole incident...I guess near the end of the game everything short of murder goes :(


Oh, I had completely forgot to comment on that! It REALLY pissed me off. The ref was watching the whole time too, I saw it right on my TV screen. :x

The number of penalties that should have been called in OT as well were insane. :x

I try to not to complain about the reffing, I really do! But they make it so damn hard. :roll:
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Post by: feistyone on February 27, 2004, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: justlearning
Quote from: Lalime40
wow, it really means alot hearing that from you guys. It's good to see you giving him some credit when deserved.

It's true, he wasn't tested much last night, but was there when needed. Had he been playing like he was before the break or in November, he woudl have lost a game like last night's. So this is a good sign of (hopefully) more to come.

I didn't think he had a chance on that goal, it was fast, but whatever.


Burke was awesome last night.
I do have to admit that Patrick was good last night...sharp and on his game.

Burke....he was also very good. One incident that I didn't like was when Daniel landed in back of the net and Burke gave him a couple of punches to the head while he was down. When Daniel finally got up and tried to leave, Burke grabbed his jersey and wouldn't let him. He finally let go after Daniel managed to get out of reach...no call for anything and the ref was watching (or appeared to be watching) the whole incident...I guess near the end of the game everything short of murder goes :(


That picture is on the front page of the Sun today.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 27, 2004, 12:59:06 PM
Yeah the punches were unnecessary.
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Post by: sensgal on February 29, 2004, 03:51:35 PM
So how did Lalime play last night against the Sabres I know he only had 15 shots but was the goal he let in a tough save or should he have had it. I don't know if anyone saw it but unfortunatley I missed the highlights on the part.
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Post by: JAY-MAN on February 29, 2004, 05:48:07 PM
the goal was not a bad goal,  but it wasnt a great goal either, it was somewhere in the middle, over all he had a good outing last night, he made some real big saves early in the game before the team dominated
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on February 29, 2004, 05:49:22 PM
I personally felt that the goal he let in wasn't a bad one. Overall, he did pretty well last night and made some good saves also.
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Post by: sensgal on February 29, 2004, 06:01:57 PM
Good sounds like he's definatley getting his confidence back *knocks on wood* and just in time for the playoffs to.
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Post by: OS on February 29, 2004, 09:59:47 PM
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So how did Lalime play last night against the Sabres


Well, this thread slipped top the 2nd page and had no posts for almost two days, so I'll let you interpret that  :lol:
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Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 01, 2004, 08:05:49 AM
We'll know for sure just how good Lalime is getting by the playoffs. Sure he played ok the last few games, but dont fool yourself into thinking the inconsistency has left the building. I am waiting and praying that he does well in playoffs. If he doesn't, bye bye.
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Post by: kjs on March 01, 2004, 11:04:46 AM
Quote from: OS
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So how did Lalime play last night against the Sabres


Well, this thread slipped top the 2nd page and had no posts for almost two days, so I'll let you interpret that  :lol:


Bingo.
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Post by: kjs on March 01, 2004, 11:10:44 AM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
I personally felt that the goal he let in wasn't a bad one. Overall, he did pretty well last night and made some good saves also.


In the end, does it really matter whether the goal was "a bad one"?  If PL can let in 1 goal per game and one goal every fifteen shots from now 'til June, I'll snap that up in a second.  They can be from the opposing goal line for all I care.
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Post by: Metalhawk on March 01, 2004, 12:39:34 PM
Quote from: kjs
Quote from: sens_fan_6
I personally felt that the goal he let in wasn't a bad one. Overall, he did pretty well last night and made some good saves also.


In the end, does it really matter whether the goal was "a bad one"?  If PL can let in 1 goal per game and one goal every fifteen shots from now 'til June, I'll snap that up in a second.  They can be from the opposing goal line for all I care.


But when that 1 goal is at the beginning of the game on the first shot against the normal Devils, then you're screwed because the Devils will choke the life out of the game and make it nearly impossible to score. That's what I, and many others have repeatedly said.
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Post by: diehardsensfan! on March 01, 2004, 03:49:54 PM
I'm not too worried about Lalime, I think he will pull it together for the playoffs. We all know what he can do in the playoffs...and that's when it counts. A lot of people who are frustrated with him and want Prusek to start have to realize that Lalime isn't going to get his confidence back not playing. We want him to have confidence going into the playoffs, or am I wrong? I'd rather go into the playoffs with Lalime, then an inexperience Prusek, regardless of how both are playing.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 01, 2004, 05:47:50 PM
Quote from: kjs
Quote from: sens_fan_6
I personally felt that the goal he let in wasn't a bad one. Overall, he did pretty well last night and made some good saves also.


In the end, does it really matter whether the goal was "a bad one"?  If PL can let in 1 goal per game and one goal every fifteen shots from now 'til June, I'll snap that up in a second.  They can be from the opposing goal line for all I care.


 I'm not Lalime's toughest critics in nets- that can be said possibly for Plcamp.  :wink:

But if that stop seems like its impossible to stop- example a deflection or if it was screened. Then I will NOT blame those type of goals on Lalime. If he lets in a silly goal such as the one that occurred when the Sens played Dallas (I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about) or if he lets any goal that would have been a routine save for any other goaltender, then I feel that Lalime should have prevented that particular goal. It depends on the situation. Don't get me wrong here, I think Lalime is a good goaltender ( he's my favorite Sens player),  but he hasn't been doing so well this year as compared to last year. However, I've been satisfied with his goaltending right after the all-star- up till now. I hope Lalime continues to keep up with the good work :wink:
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 01, 2004, 05:48:54 PM
I'm not Lalime's toughest critic either ;)
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Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on March 01, 2004, 06:26:29 PM
Remember that 12 game stretch wherein Lalime gave up the first goal? I'm wondering if that nightmare will come back to haunt us.
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Post by: DOPPLEGANGER. on March 02, 2004, 09:51:21 AM
Lets face facts.............Lalime is in the final year of his contract, and this will his last kick at the can for the Senators.

Win the Cup or not, I believe he will traded prior to the next Season (whenever that will be) and the Goaltending duties will be shared between Prusek and Emery...........until one emerges as a "number one".

Lalime is making $2,575,000.00  this season, and will command more, should the Sens do well in the playoffs..................even more should they go on to win the Cup.

On the the other side of the coin, he will bring more in return when traded, and if I'm the GM, I trade for prospects and picks to replentish the farm system that has been decimated over the past two years.

Muckler has stated that Emery will NOT be dealt, and is in the Senators future plans........Prusek has proven he can play at the NHL level, and gets better with each game.

Prusek is making $625,000.00  this season, and Emery I'm sure is not going to be more.

The writing is on the wall for Patrick, this is his last chance with Senators, because Prusek and Emery can't be left waiting in the wings any longer, and reguardless of new ownership, the bottom line is still important, when you consider that the Senators intend on keeping Peter Bondar,  and Alfredson is looking at a new contract......for me it's done deal in the minds of the Senator managment.
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Post by: OS on March 02, 2004, 10:04:14 AM
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Prusek has proven he can play at the NHL level, and gets better with each game.


I have no problem going into next season with Prusek as the main guy.   Maybe Patty will absolutely amaze us (hope so) and make it impossible to not resign him, but he has a lot of amazing to catch up on.
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Post by: Lalime40 on March 02, 2004, 01:50:14 PM
guess we'll have to wait and see.

I know a certain someone "guaranteed" Patty would be bumped from number one by March of this season. Well it's March and he still number 1.
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Post by: plcamp on March 02, 2004, 01:53:33 PM
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I'm not Lalime's toughest critics in nets- that can be said possibly for Plcamp.


My life has now been fulfilled. 8)
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Post by: kjs on March 02, 2004, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: Metalhawk
Quote from: kjs
Quote from: sens_fan_6
I personally felt that the goal he let in wasn't a bad one. Overall, he did pretty well last night and made some good saves also.


In the end, does it really matter whether the goal was "a bad one"?  If PL can let in 1 goal per game and one goal every fifteen shots from now 'til June, I'll snap that up in a second.  They can be from the opposing goal line for all I care.


But when that 1 goal is at the beginning of the game on the first shot against the normal Devils, then you're screwed because the Devils will choke the life out of the game and make it nearly impossible to score. That's what I, and many others have repeatedly said.



I don't buy this argument.  If your goalie lets in only one goal in a game -- and I don't care whether it's the first shot of the game or the last --, then as a team the onus is on you to go out and put the puck in the net for the win.  If the Sens can't score -- against the suffocating defence of the Devils or against anyone else -- then they don't deserve to win.  A team with Stanley Cup aspirations needs to be able to come back when they're down by a goal (or even more), against the best of defences.  Because it just does happen on a fairly regular basis that the other team will score first, no matter who your goalie is.  It is the team's job and that of JM to find ways of beating the trap; it is Hossa's job to blow past Stevens along the wing, as he did on occasion last May; it is the job of the power play teams to score on a semi-regular basis; and so on.
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Post by: Metalhawk on March 02, 2004, 02:05:46 PM
Quote from: kjs
Quote from: Metalhawk
Quote from: kjs
Quote from: sens_fan_6
I personally felt that the goal he let in wasn't a bad one. Overall, he did pretty well last night and made some good saves also.


In the end, does it really matter whether the goal was "a bad one"?  If PL can let in 1 goal per game and one goal every fifteen shots from now 'til June, I'll snap that up in a second.  They can be from the opposing goal line for all I care.


But when that 1 goal is at the beginning of the game on the first shot against the normal Devils, then you're screwed because the Devils will choke the life out of the game and make it nearly impossible to score. That's what I, and many others have repeatedly said.



I don't buy this argument.  If your goalie lets in only one goal in a game -- and I don't care whether it's the first shot of the game or the last --, then as a team the onus is on you to go out and put the puck in the net for the win.  If the Sens can't score -- against the suffocating defence of the Devils or against anyone else -- then they don't deserve to win.  A team with Stanley Cup aspirations needs to be able to come back when they're down by a goal (or even more), against the best of defences.  Because it just does happen on a fairly regular basis that the other team will score first, no matter who your goalie is.  It is the team's job and that of JM to find ways of beating the trap; it is Hossa's job to blow past Stevens along the wing, as he did on occasion last May; it is the job of the power play teams to score on a semi-regular basis; and so on.


But when the Devils choke the life out of the game, the Sens will open up the game a lot more, running the chance to make many mistakes, which is what NJ thrives on. How do you think they've won the cup last year? By doing exactly that. Score first, trap and score on the other team's mistakes.
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Post by: kjs on March 02, 2004, 02:45:16 PM
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But when the Devils choke the life out of the game, the Sens will open up the game a lot more, running the chance to make many mistakes, which is what NJ thrives on. How do you think they've won the cup last year? By doing exactly that. Score first, trap and score on the other team's mistakes.


This is all starting to get away from my original point, which was about the reaction to the one goal Lalime let in against Buffalo (and the whole question of "softies").  My last point was that IF Lalime lets in only one goal in a game, then it's the Sens' responsibility to step up and score if they want a win, whether or not the Devils are trying to "choke the life out of the game".  They have to be able to do that if they want to go anywhere.  Among other reasons, because Lalime will let in the first goal sometimes.  Perhaps often.  Shouldn't really matter -- so long as he's keeping the opponents' score so low.  

How do I think NJ won the Cup last year? -- gosh ... a very big topic.

But I'm a little sceptical about how much your account explains, given, for example, that this very same strategy (score first, trap and capitalise on mistakes) wasn't alien to either Ottawa or Anaheim.  Moreover, NJ's ultra-opportunistic style of play was in evidence all series long, even when NJ didn't have the lead.  Finally, the trap-and-pounce is a strategy that has its own risks.  It didn't, for instance, prevent Bonk's equaliser in game 7 nor NJ's comeback from a 2-goal deficit in game 1.

I'd like to think that the Sens can play an open style and yet play intelligent defence at the same time.  And that they can beat the Devils in a playoff series playing that game.
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 02, 2004, 05:59:31 PM
Yes it is Lalime last year of his contract. There might be a Possibility that he might be gone from the Sens next year if he doesn't do well in the playoffs or if he asks for too much money in his next contract- and I hope none of this does happen. I really hope he continues to do well with his goaltending and helps the Sens win the Stanley Cup. Afterwards, I hope he and the management can agree easily to a new contract.
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Post by: plcamp on March 03, 2004, 10:03:39 PM
I fail to detect any glowing praise of Mr Lalime's performance tonight in here.

Perhaps the perception of good play since the Allstar break has been suspended as of tonight's game?
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Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 03, 2004, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: plcamp
I fail to detect any glowing praise of Mr Lalime's performance tonight in here.

Perhaps the perception of good play since the Allstar break has been suspended as of tonight's game?


My comments on the game:

1st goal- deflected off Chara
2nd goal- defense didn't cover the Buffalo guy in corner.
3rd goal- * Thought Lalime could have saved it if he'd stretched his right leg out a bit.
4th goal- deflected off Redden

-He made 27 saves tonight which isn't bad at all. He could have stopped the third goal, but the other 3- there wasn't much he could do.

- Stopped a few breakaways

- Made some excellent saves

Lalime wasn't bad at all today.

Alfie, Lalime, and Fisher played well but where was the rest of the team today- the defense and penalty-kill sucked big time!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on March 03, 2004, 10:13:14 PM
And that is when you hear cricket sounds as a response...

The defense was absolutely brutal tonight... Nothing much Lalime could do and you would have pointed out that fact if you weren't so biaised.

Seriously plcamp, if you wanna do this team good until the season ends, criticize PL only when it is truly due.

Fact is, our PK sucked, our PP isn't much to be proud of, our defense (:cough: Redden, Chara, Rachunek, Simpson :cough:) is inconsistent.  Same goes for our offence with Spezza doing too much fancy stuff, Havlat getting suspended for a brain cramp and Hossa having on and off nights.

Really, plcamp, there are other concerns than Lalime's play lately.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 03, 2004, 10:29:49 PM
Quote from: plcamp
I fail to detect any glowing praise of Mr Lalime's performance tonight in here.

Perhaps the perception of good play since the Allstar break has been suspended as of tonight's game?


he was fine tonight...in fact maybe the best Senator!  was there an Ottawa feed for the game?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on March 03, 2004, 10:36:38 PM
Only if you have Centre Ice. I saw the highlights on TSN and heard the game on the radio.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 03, 2004, 10:37:52 PM
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there are other concerns than Lalime's play lately


True enough, but this IS the Lalime thread.

As for Lalime's play tonight, sure there was <cough> only <cough> one weak goal - but apart from that there were many out-of position saves that resulted in juicy rebounds - and he still seems to lose sight of the puck alot & flop like a wet mackeral for no obvious reason.

By the way, only one weak goal in a playoff game can lose you the series, not just the game. What do you think the chances are that Lalime can play through potentially 28 playoff games without giving up that SC-losing goal because of his tendency to give up 'only' one per game?

And why is it that Ottawa scores more often when Lalime doesn't play?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 03, 2004, 10:38:05 PM
Quote from: SensRockMyWorld
Only if you have Centre Ice. I saw the highlights on TSN and heard the game on the radio.


To judge a game you have to watch it (this is not directed at you SensRock just those ppl who listen to a game and think they have any clue what happened).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 03, 2004, 10:38:35 PM
I saw the game tonight too, BTW.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 03, 2004, 10:39:38 PM
Quote from: plcamp
I saw the game tonight too, BTW.


ya just wondering - I didn't outright accuse you of not seeing the game (I just came really close!   :lol: ) but come on Lalime really cannot be faulted for any of those goals - just absolutely brutal game tonight by the defense.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 03, 2004, 10:40:58 PM
OK - would you say Ottawa or Buffalo had more good-quality scoring chances?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 03, 2004, 10:43:44 PM
Quote from: plcamp
OK - would you say Ottawa or Buffalo had more good-quality scoring chances?


Buffalo...

zone time - Ottawa

chances - Buffalo

like that Vermette chance was not even close and neither was the scrum after the low Chara shot.  Buffalo didn't get strong goaltending tonight.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 03, 2004, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: plcamp
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there are other concerns than Lalime's play lately


True enough, but this IS the Lalime thread.

As for Lalime's play tonight, sure there was <cough> only <cough> one weak goal - but apart from that there were many out-of position saves that resulted in juicy rebounds - and he still seems to lose sight of the puck alot & flop like a wet mackeral for no obvious reason.

By the way, only one weak goal in a playoff game can lose you the series, not just the game. What do you think the chances are that Lalime can play through potentially 28 playoff games without giving up that SC-losing goal because of his tendency to give up 'only' one per game?

And why is it that Ottawa scores more often when Lalime doesn't play?

 :lol:  Your dislike of Lalime's goaltending is clouding your judgement of Lalime's game tonight. You haven't consider these 2 things:

1) The awful Penalty-Kill
2) The Defense sucking tonight

It takes a whole team to win a game. Three players of the Sens stood out tonight. 1) Alfie 2) Fisher 3) Lalime
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JAY-MAN on March 03, 2004, 11:23:14 PM
Lalime was strong, he played great, none of the goals where weak, he had no chance.  So I say its to bad, I am glad he has played so strong since the all star break, hopefully we rebound off the loss this friday
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on March 04, 2004, 12:37:38 AM
Can't fault Lalime tonight. As many mentioned --- the Sens played brutal team defence tonight. They thought it would be a cake-walk like the game a few nights ago --- when will they learn that you have to work every night?

As sens_fan mentioned, I think the third goal was probably the only questionable one tonight.

BUT --- that was a save that needed to be made.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 04, 2004, 02:24:56 AM
Just once I'd love to see the man who is supposed to take us to the Cup carry the team. Just ONCE! Every now and then the goalie needs to earn his frikkin keep!
Lalime only had 27 shots on him, of which he let 4 in, whereas Biron had  34 on him, which he only let in 3.
16 shots for the Sens in the 2nd alone? 2 of which got past Biron.

Regardless of what you all think of Lalime, good or bad, this team will not get past the likes of Toronto, Philly, or NJ. You see, they have playoff goalies, we don't. We got everything else, just no goalie.

The guy cannot instill the confidence in his teammates, and without that, we are as close to the cup as the Penguins.

You'll see, mark my words.

Might as well pick your Cup finalist from the those teams mentioned above.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 04, 2004, 08:53:31 AM
Weere not even close to being the Penguins. It's pretty sad if that's what you think.

As for the 3 Teams you mentioned, Burke is no better than Lalime IMHO. He hasn't been the star they were hoping him to be. beside's, Lalime's got Philly's number. He's put them out the last 2 playoff's and always does good against them in the season. Belfour's back is questionable and might not even make the playoff's. TO's doomed if that happens. And NJ, well they need to sharpen up there D or hope to hell Steven's comesback or they are Doomed. Brodeur can't do it on his own. It's evident from his and the Team recent stats that Steven had a huge impact to the team.

All the sens need to do it play to their potential. We've got what we need to win the cup, we just need to play like it now.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 04, 2004, 09:01:19 AM
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Three players of the Sens stood out tonight. 1) Alfie 2) Fisher 3) Lalime


I question lalime on that list, and Smokes should have been there - one of his best games this season.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 04, 2004, 09:07:02 AM
you always question Lalime. What's else is new? I didn't see the game so I'll leave it those that did.
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Post by: kissmeimasensfan on March 04, 2004, 09:49:04 AM
Quote from: plcamp
Quote
Three players of the Sens stood out tonight. 1) Alfie 2) Fisher 3) Lalime


I question lalime on that list, and Smokes should have been there - one of his best games this season.


I didn't think Fisher stood out very much at all.  Schaefer had a good game, IMO.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: kjs on March 04, 2004, 11:22:45 AM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: plcamp
OK - would you say Ottawa or Buffalo had more good-quality scoring chances?


Buffalo...

zone time - Ottawa

chances - Buffalo



Seems to be a pattern with the Sens this season.  I've written in another thread about the Sens' habit of padding the save percentage of opposing goalies.  There are very many Sens games in which the shots-on-goal count and puck-possession time don't tell the whole story.

(Not to say that this applies to last night's game -- only heard on the radio and so can't judge.)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: kjs on March 04, 2004, 11:46:57 AM
Quote from: plcamp

By the way, only one weak goal in a playoff game can lose you the series, not just the game. What do you think the chances are that Lalime can play through potentially 28 playoff games without giving up that SC-losing goal because of his tendency to give up 'only' one per game?


All depends on how many other goals he lets in.  If the final outcome is good, if he lets nothing or hardly anything else by, if he keeps the score low and he makes other good saves to give his teammates a chance to take the game, then I suggest we shouldn't get too hung up on whether the ones he lets in are "weak" or "strong" or somewhere in between.  When he's letting four or five goals in per game, or when he's giving up "weak" goals when the game is on the line -- both of which he's certainly done at times this season --, then the criticism is often entirely deserved.

By the by, I find the abstract category of "the SC-losing goal" even more useless than that of the "game-winning" or "game-losing" goal.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 04, 2004, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: kissmeimasensfan
Quote from: plcamp
Quote
Three players of the Sens stood out tonight. 1) Alfie 2) Fisher 3) Lalime


I question lalime on that list, and Smokes should have been there - one of his best games this season.


I didn't think Fisher stood out very much at all.  Schaefer had a good game, IMO.


we fealt that Shaefer played like crap.  He looked drunk out there.  I absolutely thought he played like garbage last night.
Title: The Great Patrick Lalime
Post by: Physrev on March 05, 2004, 07:41:38 PM
According to Sports Illustrated, Lalime has finally slipped below the 50 "top" goalies when it comes to save %. (He was 50th before last game and has disappeared from the top 50 list since then.)

A goalie to hockey is like a pitcher to baseball. You can't win without one and the Senators need one...very badly.

As I'm writing this, they're playing the Flyers and he has already allowed two goals on 6 shots on net.

Folks, the goalie issue is the only issue that will prevent them from winning the Cup.


Oh, look at that  --- a  third goal for the Flyers!!!
ANY, absolutely any NHL goalie would be better than Lalime.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Darcy Loewen on March 05, 2004, 07:44:14 PM
There's a HUGE thread already started about Patrick.. here it is:

http://forum.sensnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=931&start=4040
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on March 05, 2004, 08:02:39 PM
The man is 100% right.

I love hearing Millen make excuse after excuse for Lalime.

Just because they are not "bad" goals doesn't mean a Cup contending team should expect their goaltender to make at least 1 of those saves.

It's not just the saves it's his positioning....its' horrible.

Oh and not everyone wants to wade through 200+ pages in order to make a point.

This team is going nowhere with Lalime, he is barely above .500 for God's sake and his stats are horrible.

No wonder no one takes the Sens seriously.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on March 05, 2004, 08:13:57 PM
There are currently 2 threads on the first page about Rachunek....why are they not merged?

There are also 2 major threads about Havlat.

Why is it that no Lalime discussion can be had outside this thread but I could pick out at least a half dozen other players who have multiple threads going?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: glen on March 05, 2004, 08:13:59 PM
Add me to the long list of people worried about our goaltending.  Its hard to watch Lalime in this game.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 05, 2004, 08:50:34 PM
I'm concerned with Lalime's play in this game, but as for his game overall- he's picked it up after the all-star break.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SENSfreak_03 on March 05, 2004, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: SensSmaq
There are currently 2 threads on the first page about Rachunek....why are they not merged?

There are also 2 major threads about Havlat.

Why is it that no Lalime discussion can be had outside this thread but I could pick out at least a half dozen other players who have multiple threads going?


i think its because, the creators of the thread knew that lalime would be an issue all year. so just throw it into one, instead of having 3452873409587 threads throughout.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 05, 2004, 09:11:16 PM
:drink:  :flag:  :drink:  :flag:  :drink: :flag:  :drink:  :flag:  :drink: :flag:  :drink:  :flag:  :drink: :flag:  :drink:  :flag:  :drink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 05, 2004, 09:11:34 PM
Lalime sucks tonight. Period. Why hasn't Jacques pulled him after letting in the fifth goal.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SENSfreak_03 on March 05, 2004, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
Lalime sucks tonight. Period. Why hasn't Jacques pulled him after letting in the fifth goal.


why wasnt he pulled after the 3rd
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on March 05, 2004, 09:14:10 PM
OS, no white flags. We go down with the ship. ;)

Lalime's not consistent. He can't bounce back from games. His positioning his horrible. He has no mental concentration. He can't make a clutch save. He deflates the team at key moments.

I'm cynical about the chances we have for the Cup, as predicted in the pre-seasons. Extremely cynical.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: operasen on March 05, 2004, 09:20:55 PM
Sorry, I refuse to watch lalime any longer than 5 goals.  he's been useless this year - and WILL cost us the Cup; as he did last year in Game 7.  Yes the defence let down, but he shpould have stopped it.  

Anyway, bring on Pronger, Aragon and Moses - it will not matter until well get a real goalie.  

Too bad, but it is alomost too late to change horses now; unless you are riding Hidalgo (Luongo).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on March 05, 2004, 09:26:51 PM
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Too bad, but it is alomost too late to change horses now; unless you are riding Hidalgo (Luongo).


I hope Muckler's on the phone right now, with something up his sleeve.

Meanwhile, is it safe to say Senators fans can enjoy the extended lockout break to ponder and brood over how close we are yet so how far we are? We are a bitter bunch.
Title: Lalime's play has picked up???
Post by: Physrev on March 05, 2004, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
I'm concerned with Lalime's play in this game, but as for his game overall- he's picked it up after the all-star break.


Sorry "sens_fan_6" but I disagree...so does his statistics. Save% rarely lies.
He was bad before the break. He is worst now!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 05, 2004, 10:01:47 PM
It was interesting to see Lalime fight against Esche. Don't get to see that very often.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SENSfreak_03 on March 05, 2004, 10:02:40 PM
best thing hes done all year, get himself kicked out of the game
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 05, 2004, 10:10:00 PM
He actually did better in this fight compared to his last fight against Dafoe back two years ago. I'm sure everyone remembers that Ottawa-Boston fight.
Title: The weakist link
Post by: DOPPLEGANGER. on March 05, 2004, 10:18:36 PM
The players have lost confidence in Patrick Lalime. They say all the right things when asked by the media........but body language after another weak goal speaks volumes.

Forget about who is number one............forget about rebuilding Lalime's confidence...............there is a goaltender with a better record sitting on the bench..........and you have to start winning games.

Unless there is a deal in the works to improve the goaltending, then Prusek has to play more often to get him ready for the eventuiallity that he will be needed int he playoffs.

J Martin will have to turn to Prusek when it's to late..........just like last year when he put Spezza into the lineup when it was to late.

Last year was a missed opportunity, and this year the competition to get out of the easteren conference is going to be much more difficult.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Otherdave on March 05, 2004, 10:22:24 PM
1. Put it in the Lalime thread, we've already got one.
2. Give up any hope of the Cup this year. It's clear that goaltending and injuries will keep the Sens from the ultimate goal. But at least it'll be a helluva ride!

Other Dave
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 05, 2004, 10:31:09 PM
I'll take the thread in another direction.  Right now Rachunek is the weakest link.
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Post by: plcamp on March 05, 2004, 10:32:26 PM
Woiw, if that doesn't take the prize. At least Partick has one skill-fighting. Too bad he's not a pro boxer.

This team cannot survive with such a huge liability in nets. Every-one posessing the ability to see through blind faith knows he's gotta go, especially the players in front of him.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 05, 2004, 10:33:03 PM
Gee, Lalime really ripped off Esche's mask.  Clearly an intent to injure, and he skated down the whole length of the ice.   Colie Campbell better be on the ball and hit him with at least a ten game suspension.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 05, 2004, 10:45:31 PM
OS  ---- GREAT THOUGHT THERE :)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on March 05, 2004, 10:56:52 PM
Quote from: OS
Gee, Lalime really ripped off Esche's mask.  Clearly an intent to injure, and he skated down the whole length of the ice.   Colie Campbell better be on the ball and hit him with at least a ten game suspension.


life time ban works for me.... did you see him talking to Esche, he was probably cussing, I would ban his kids as well... :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SENSfreak_03 on March 05, 2004, 11:55:59 PM
an email on the post game show today, in jim rome style.

"dear ottawa senators,

patrick lalime is an elite goalie, no need to get anyone else

signed,
the rest of the eastern confrence"
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: fiveforfighting on March 06, 2004, 12:16:30 AM
This guy makes Kidd look good. Man, is he brutal.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JAY-MAN on March 06, 2004, 01:13:00 AM
no at leaste lalime wins a few games.  kidd does not.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JAY-MAN on March 06, 2004, 01:35:54 AM
however, i was not pleased with his play tonight,  He has been consistent since the all star break, although has slipped these last 2 games.  hopefully at home he will be better!    unless its pruseks start, then he can rebound later on monday against the caps
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Metalhawk on March 06, 2004, 02:58:46 AM
Lalime. Must. Go.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 06, 2004, 04:44:05 AM
Quote from: SENSfreak_03
an email on the post game show today, in jim rome style.

"dear ottawa senators,

patrick lalime is an elite goalie, no need to get anyone else

signed,
the rest of the eastern confrence"


Oh good god, I almost pissed myself when I read that! :lol:

Personally, I'm still bitter about the Hurme trade, which I was ranting about on the old 'official' sens forums as being one of the worst I've seen them make outside of the whole Tugnutt fiasco! I mean, I always thought that the guys played better when Hurme was between the pipes, just like they do now, when Prusek in manning the mesh.

Oh well, this teams one weakness, since Tugnutt, has been the goalie issue. I don't see our forwards scoring at least 5 goals/game either, which means we're pretty much doomed if Prusek doesn't get more ice time.

Why don't the guys make like the Flames, and simply tell their coach and GM they have no confidence in their starting goalie, that they cannot play their game with him in net, that all the chemistry flies out the window when he's on the ice?

WHY I ask you, WHY??? :evil:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 06, 2004, 08:56:48 AM
The Rhome quote kills me, gold!
It's so true.

Lalime is now 37th in the league with a save % of just over .900, I think it's .908. Explain again why he's our starter? I really question the fact that he improved at all after the break. I think he may have got a couple of lucky saves in and thats it. He's back to his usual 9 goals in two game form. Just before the break he had the stretch of 4 games where he let in 17 goals.... This is aweful stuff guys. The stuff that playoff upsets are built on. Could you imagine whats going to happen when we get blown out first round? Its becoming more and more of a reality as well. How can you see Lalime standing up against belfour, Brodeur and the rest of the real goalies in the East? I just dont have any confidence in him at all. He MUST go. The fans have had enough, and spending money to watch a floundering goalie try to find his game is not what people signed up for. The whole middle part of this season was spent as a personal training camp for Lalime. The season has flown by (where did the time go?) and were in a position to reflect upon some of our accomplishments now, and Lalime's season is looking like a washout. His crap performances have over shadowed allot of good things that have happened though this year, like Langfeld.

The Sens have been very professional with Lalime and he has had quite a bit of positive support from his team which is not the same for some other goalies who struggled on other teams ( Chechmanek was run out of Philli, make no mistake)

I pray that come the deadline we have Loungo or someone who can stop a puck. When Lalime is 37th, I would seriously consider heading into the playoffs with Emery instead. At least he would have finished off Esche ! Hehe
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Physrev on March 06, 2004, 10:04:14 AM
Lalime's save % is now 0.903 (actually it is 0.9026).
Compared to other "starting" goalies (goalies who played in at leat 30 games), there are only three which are worst than him (Caron (Pit), Dunham(NYR), Salo(Edm)). Their respective teams will not make the playoffs.

If we compare him with ALL NHL goalies, then he doesn't make the top 50.  

As for Prusek, of all the goalies (50-60) that have played more games than him there are only 6 goalies that have a better save %.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Physrev on March 06, 2004, 10:12:24 AM
One of the hottest goalie this year is Dwayne Roloson (Min). His team will not make the playoffs.
That's the guy they should be going after.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensGod on March 06, 2004, 10:38:24 AM
It's time for Muckler to bite the bullet and bring in someone to be our goalie that will give us a chance at the cup.  Lalime is not the one right now.

I'm done with Lalime...and as long as he's our #1...any win will be a surprise for me...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 06, 2004, 11:23:24 AM
He's been great the past few games, and then has one bad game - I'm assuming because I only saw the first 3 goals, and I thougt the Sens defence was horrendous - but for arguments sake, this is his one bad game since the all-star break. You want to trade him when he's been improving and keeping the team in games at many points? Come on - you know there is no one else there that is better. Mucks has said so, JM has said so, the team backs him. I'm more concerned about our horrific defensive coverage at this point.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensRockMyWorld on March 06, 2004, 11:52:40 AM
I agree with Jenn here: Lalime has shown us that he can put a few good games together until now and that is a sign of improvment. And besides, if you all want to put us further in deep doo-doo by trading our number one goalie at this point of the season and disrupt the team's chemistry, then go ahead and officially sign our deaths for the playoffs. I agree that Lalime has had a bad game but I'm not gonna whine to get gim traded since John Muckler has stated that he won't do so and quite fankly, there isn't anything better on the market right now.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 06, 2004, 12:01:37 PM
Lalime just cant win, or steal us a game. He's pretty much the worst starting goalie out there right now. At least according to whats posted on NHL .com. I think he has the talent to be a failry good goalie, somewhere else. Period. Whats the strength of a great save if you let in 5 softies?
(Remember Dallas?)

The team has lost confidence in him. Half the battle of our defensive game is our confidence.
Its too little too late. Has he made the odd good save, of course. f you throw enough dung against a barn door, some's gonna stick!

:)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 06, 2004, 12:09:12 PM
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disrupt the team's chemistry
:?:  :?:  :?:

Team's chemistry? Why don't you pay attention to the fact that Ottawa scores much less and gets scored upon much more when Lalime plays?

The problem is that this team has no chemistry whenever Lalime plays. Lalime has lost the confidence of all his teammates, and they woudl like nothing more than to see him leave so that they once again have at least a chance to win. they can't SAY this, but that's for sure what each one is thinking.

"...if you all want to put us further in deep doo-doo by trading our number one goalie ..."

But that's the point. This guy isn't a #1 goalie for any team pretending to be a contender. He simply isn't good enough. I think Lalime would have a hard time, in a fair competition, winnign a spot on any AHL team.

Lalime is the worst G Ottawa's ever had in the modern franchise history. He must be disposed of. ANYONE is better. I would take ANY active NHL goalie over him - simply because this team has proven beyond any doubt that they cannot win with him.

It amazes me there continues to be a lack of unanimity in the need to dump this loser. What on earth do you need to see? Lalime is fudnamentally flawed in so many ways that his continued employment with the Sens has become laughable.
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Post by: Lalime40 on March 06, 2004, 12:15:33 PM
wah wah wah!!!  all you people do is wine. He's been fine since the allstar break aside from this game. Last game against Buffalo was not his fault, we'ev already been over that.

if you have no confidence in this team, then go cheer for the leafs on jump on their wagon.
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Post by: plcamp on March 06, 2004, 12:17:14 PM
Why do you try to defend this loser? Why?
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Post by: Physrev on March 06, 2004, 12:28:49 PM
..."he's improved since the all-star game....he's had only one bad game..."

That is so wrong!
He is getting worst as the season progresses.
I have been following his stats and the other goalies' stats since the all-star game and he has been slipping terribly since the break(on what looks like a very slippery slope!)

I don't know - I don't think we've been watching the same team and games!

I agree completely with other posters who say that the players have lost confidence in him. It shows on the ice.

If the GM and Co. are serious about winning the cup, then they must get rid of Lalime. They won't get anything for him but heck, zero is better than negative numbers!
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Post by: Lalime40 on March 06, 2004, 12:29:43 PM
i wasn't defending anyone. just making fun of how much you wine about him.


seriuosly, you obviusly have no faith in our team so you may as well go cheer for the leafs. They have an elite goalie so they're gonna win the cup right?
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 06, 2004, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Why do you try to defend this loser? Why?


Perhaps talking about others with a bit of respect might get you somewhere.

Constantly calling people losers is not gonna gain you much.

If you talked about me or my friends the way you do about him, let's just say it wouldn't be pretty.
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Post by: Physrev on March 06, 2004, 12:38:17 PM
Hmm... Is this you Patrick? I mean, who else can it possibly be.
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Post by: plcamp on March 06, 2004, 12:38:31 PM
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...seriuosly, you obviusly have no faith in our team


That is entirely correct, but for reasons you don't expect.

I want this team to win a cup. I could say you obviously don't given your support for crap in goal?

The trouble with 'faith', as you seem to use the term, is that you want to equate it with 'being a genuine fan'.

Well you don't need to have faith in a hockey team to be a genuine fan. I much much prefer to be realistic than faithful. You go ahead with your faith, and good luck with that. But remember - all those Leaf fans have been exhibiting 'faith' since before most people in these forums were born. Look where their 'faith' has got them.

So don't ask me about having 'faith' in the Sens. I don't - I have a realistic view of the Sens, and that realistic view tell me it is completely obvious they are losers as long as the plague called Lalime remains in a  # 1 G position.
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Post by: plcamp on March 06, 2004, 12:42:05 PM
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If you talked about me or my friends the way you do about him, let's just say it wouldn't be pretty


I expect neither you nor your friends are likely to play a critical position on the Ottawa Senators, so have no fear of this.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 06, 2004, 12:43:22 PM
Quote from: plcamp
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If you talked about me or my friends the way you do about him, let's just say it wouldn't be pretty


I expect neither you nor your friends are likely to play a critical position on the Ottawa Senators, so have no fear of this.


You know what my point is. Simple lack of respect for another human being. Get over it.
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Post by: plcamp on March 06, 2004, 12:44:21 PM
What - you want me to admit he's a nice guy or soemthign? Sure, he's a nice guy - but he's a loser as well. You need to get over that.
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 06, 2004, 12:46:46 PM
:roll:

I'm not even gonna dignify you with a response any more.
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Post by: plcamp on March 06, 2004, 12:49:27 PM
You just did.
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Post by: interzone on March 06, 2004, 12:53:04 PM
Before this thing degenerates -- come on Jenn, Plcamp's only saying that he doesn't really care if he hurts Patrick's feelings, and that's typical of Plcamp. Just because he doesn't think Lalime will get us anywhere doesn't mean that he's less of a fan -- he's not jumping ship. (At least I don't think so.)

And Plcamp, Jenn loves Lalime, so try to show at least a little respect that he's managed to make into the NHL (whether he deserves to or not is another question!). He does have his merits, despite the fact that he isn't exactly dazzling us with them now.
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Post by: TrentBlue on March 06, 2004, 01:16:18 PM
Is Lalime being blamed for the loss last night?  Because if so then those accusing Lalime supporters have to open their eyes to the flaws of the rest of this team – because I think they might be a little scared to look at their more favoured players to see the real problems.

Let’s start with Smolinski who can’t fill 1/4 of Bonk’s shoes!  His defensive coverage is a joke.  Most of the time when he seems to be in position it’s an illusion because his assignment can easily allude him for a loose puck, tip or shot at will. (See last night’s game for a perfect example.)

Moving on…How about that gritty Sens team Ray and Simpson are great! lol – ya right!  Talk about talentless who shouldn’t be touching the practise ice with this squad let alone seeing game action!  I never thought I’d say this – but I long for the days when Hnidy was the #6 D – because Simpson just plain sucks!  You should probably throw Van Allen into this group because he sucks too – goo help your buddu Jody Hull in Bingo!

Chara, save his goal, played another crappy game last night…letting players win battles for the puck and skate around him etc.  He’s just nt showing the same kind of board positioning we’ve seen from him most of the year – and he’s started to look like Alfie with all the give aways.

The overall effort on this team is a joke.  The only two players who show up every night are Fisher and Bondra … that’s it!  Where’s Hossa, Alfie, Spezza and the rest?  I mean pull it together boys.  

You ask what is all this doing in the Lalime thread?  My point is that there are so many more problems than Lalime missing nearly impossible shots that are tipped at the last minute…of which their were 2 last night.  Before we bag Lalime – take a look at the marquee players floating around every game, and the overall lack of from every player for at least parts of every game!  The defensive commitment, discipline, transition game, basic breakout plays, and effort game in/game out have all gone out the window and for some reason this is all falling on the shoulders of Lalime…and it’s a f**king joke!
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Post by: SensRockMyWorld on March 06, 2004, 01:20:21 PM
I'm just curious plcamp, do you have an opinion on each of the other players among the team? Cause we only hear (or read) from you when it concerns Lalime. I know you hate the Leafs but what other opinions do you have? I'm saying this because I'd like to hear what you think of the other players or otherwise, I'd say that you're pretty obsessed with only one thought: getting Lalime out of the team. What will you do next season?
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Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 06, 2004, 01:24:11 PM
Brilliantly said TB! The blame Lalime for everything scenario is a joke.
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Post by: blackredgo_lden4stan on March 06, 2004, 01:38:22 PM
Maybe Lalime will feel better after gelling with the team last night and put on better performances. Those were awesome clips I saw on the fight thread. This brawl was initiated by two players by the way. Simpson and Ray are the ones who bring emotion to the team, for that we should be indebted
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Post by: Physrev on March 06, 2004, 01:49:34 PM
Weell Duh! Geez I wonder why people from just about every corner of the hockey world picks on Lalime.

TrentBlue, you are one clueless fellow!

You can write all you want and as much as you want. This is merely an attempt to throw a smokescreen and draw attention away from Lalime. It may work for the "wet-behind-the ears", but not for me.

How could most of what you say be true considering the following:

(On defense)
- After Dallas, Ottawa has allowed the fewest shots on nets. (Do you think this could be if all these "lazy" players were as "lazy" as you suggest?)


(On offense)

- Ottawa has the most goals and is the team with the best % when it comes to goals scored/shots on net. (Hmm, same argument here).

These great numbers can only be attributed to the 5 skaters (minus the goalie) on the ice, working their butts off (while Lalime stands in front of the net and waits for a new (glass) prescription).

Now these two statistics are reflections of the efficiency of the team's skaters (minus the goalies).

What you may have observed lately are players getting discouraged and disgusted after seeing their great efforts thwarted by the inability of the "Great" Lalime to stop soft little wrist shots.

Much more could be said but ..time's up!.

Here is an excerpt of SI's take on last nights' game.



"...But Philadelphia took advantage of a shaky Patrick Lalime , scoring three times in a 5 1/2-minute span later in the period for a 3-1 lead.


....I am not sure," Esche said when asked why Lalime raced the length of the ice to fight. "I think that he was embarrassed that he gave up five goals. It was frustrating for him."


...Nearly 6 1/2 minutes after Neil scored his second goal in three games, Claude Lapointe threw the puck toward the net from the left boards and Lalime failed to stop it. Mark Recchi banged in a loose puck near the left goalpost 30 seconds later, giving Philadelphia a 2-1 lead.

...Lalime allowed another soft goal when Markov beat him with a wrist shot from the blue line with 3:50 to go in the first...."
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Post by: TrentBlue on March 06, 2004, 02:02:09 PM
I don't need to quote stats that are questionable at best and commentators that are more clueless than half the posters on this forum because I watch every game and can think for myself.  I'm not saying Lalime is perfect, I am saying that there is a lot more going wrong in Sens land.

You wanna know why Ottawa has scored so many goals?  Becuase we're the greatest team in the world at scoring meaningless goals.  Who cares if Hossa decides to show up in a 7-1 win and pick up the 6th goal...that doesn't mean he's not slumping.  

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After Dallas, Ottawa has allowed the fewest shots on nets. (Do you think this could be if all these "lazy" players were as "lazy" as you suggest?)


actually we're behind Dallas, San Jose, and New Jersey - and it's not about numbers...it's about watching the games and looking at the goals.  Actually WATCH the games...not just the highlights.  Look at the horrible breakdowns in coverage on almost every goal!  When Ottawa gives up only 20 shots it doesn't matter because there's still just as many if not more and more quality scoring chances on Lalime.

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Now these two statistics are reflections of the efficiency of the team's skaters (minus the goalies).


and why are you allowed to appeal to statistics but only count them the way you want to count them?  I mean come on here folks you can't praise GA and take away credit from the goalie!  :?

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What you may have observed lately are players getting discouraged and disgusted after seeing their great efforts thwarted by the inability of the "Great" Lalime to stop soft little wrist shots.


Discouraged???  WTF -- if you really think you're goalie sucks then you back check harder!!! What kind of sketchy logic are you using here?

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...Nearly 6 1/2 minutes after Neil scored his second goal in three games, Claude Lapointe threw the puck toward the net from the left boards and Lalime failed to stop it. Mark Recchi banged in a loose puck near the left goalpost 30 seconds later, giving Philadelphia a 2-1 lead.


errrr...Smolinski blew his coverage AGAIN!
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Post by: Senturion on March 06, 2004, 02:20:10 PM
*sigh

To TB and all Lalime fans who are deflecting blame like Lalime SHOULD be deflecting pucks, only reason some of the other players aren't doing that well is because they have zero confidence in their netminder, and when that happens, chemistry is toast, and the beats begin.
Ever notice that when the Sens get a 2 goal lead, they start playing normal, as they know that they now have a bit of a cushion and can play their style without worrying whether or not Lalime will flail on the next softie and lose the game for everyone (which happens regardless). They simply cannot play Sens style hockey when they have to compensate for a pathetic netminder.

So, with that being said, I mean NO disrespect to you Lalime lovers, and would like nothing more that to see him smarten up and play like an NHL goalie, rather than us having to bite the bullet and making an iffy trade for another iffy goalie.

He's had his chances, and has blown pretty much all of them.

The writing is on the wall.

The League sees it, most of us fans see it, question is, does the management see it, and if so, do they care?
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Post by: TrentBlue on March 06, 2004, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: Senturion
*sigh

To TB and all Lalime fans who are deflecting blame like Lalime SHOULD be deflecting pucks, only reason some of the other players aren't doing that well is because they have zero confidence in their netminder, and when that happens, chemistry is toast, and the beats begin.
Ever notice that when the Sens get a 2 goal lead, they start playing normal, as they know that they now have a bit of a cushion and can play their style without worrying whether or not Lalime will flail on the next softie and lose the game for everyone (which happens regardless). They simply cannot play Sens style hockey when they have to compensate for a pathetic netminder.

So, with that being said, I mean NO disrespect to you Lalime lovers, and would like nothing more that to see him smarten up and play like an NHL goalie, rather than us having to bite the bullet and making an iffy trade for another iffy goalie.

He's had his chances, and has blown pretty much all of them.

The writing is on the wall.

The League sees it, most of us fans see it, question is, does the management see it, and if so, do they care?


I'm not understanding why defensive assignments and coverage are blown because they don't trust their goaltender.  Any time I've played on a team where either we have a weak goalie or the back up is in I've noticed that everyojne backchecks twice as hard and normally surprisingly good results follow.  I am simply not understanding the argument which claims Sens players (professional athletes) are playing worse defense because they don't "trust" their goalie.  Just as people have been calling Lalime supporters "Lalime lovers" --- I think you people are afriad to admit your favourite players are playing like crap and are just as much to blame for the woes as Lalime is.  They are professional athletes.  If players like Smolinski, Spezza, Alfie Hossa or whoever were actually getting all discouraged when a bad goal goes in then I say ship them out of town.  They're making millions of dollars - buck up and start showing up for games - and when or if that ever happens then we'll talk about any goaltending issues.  

I'm not a Lalime lover by any means...I'm a hockey fan who is not blinded by my hatred for anyone player as a scapegoat.  It really is such a cop out to say "we'll the Sens would be sooo great if they only had X goalie etc. etc. etc."  It avoids criticizing the other players whom we all love.  But the blame has to be laid where it belongs.  And the issues the team are having right now are not Lalime related - they are effort, commitment, strategic (our 4th line vs. their 1st), skill and injury related!

EDIT:  I am blinded for my (non-homosexual) love for Bonk...but we should all appreciate him for what he is...The heart of this team! (and my cat  :D )
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Post by: Senturion on March 06, 2004, 02:46:14 PM
I agree with everything you just said, but, I still think that out of everyone who isn't playing their A-1 game right now, Lalime sits at the top of that class.
I know we're missing key guys, but that shouldn't affect a so-called cup contender this badly.
I really hate to say this, but it just doesn't feel like we're going to go far this year, and that Philly and TO will, and if any of those two get to play Ottawa, it'll be a gimme for them.
(It really hurts to say that.)
Both clubs have retooled themselves, and are looking like a pair of playoff warriors about to enter the ring, whereas Ottawa is still looking like the towelboy at ringside with starstruck eyes.
I've resigned myself to waiting until after the lockout before Ottawa can be taken seriously, when all the seniors and veterans are retired.
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Post by: Physrev on March 06, 2004, 02:53:13 PM
[TrentBlue] writes

 "...don't need to quote stats that are questionable at best and commentators that are more clueless than half the posters on this forum..."

Now, why would you say that?

I mean, a team that consistently gets considerably more shots on nets than the opponents is not a questionable-at-best statistics. Of course not. These teams find themselves at the top of the standings while those which allowed considerably more shots on nets than they get usually find themselves at the bottom of the well. In general, it's a good indicator of who dominates. Stats are not very meaningful when you have very little information (for example, shots on net for one game only may not tell the whole story) but when you are deep into the season, as we are now, then it becomes very meaningful.

Look, this is getting too long for me so I will address only the following.

Quote: (Me)
After Dallas, Ottawa has allowed the fewest shots on nets. (Do you think this could be if all these "lazy" players were as "lazy" as you suggest?)  


Quote: (You)
actually we're behind Dallas, San Jose, and New Jersey - ..."

This statement is incorrect.

San Jose has allowed approximately 300 more shots on net than Ottawa!!!! (SI, updated last night: San Jose 1949, Ottawa 1640, New Jersey 1649) Granted, it is possible that after last night's game New Jersey MAY have allowed fewer shots on nets than Ottawa ).



Quote: (Me)
Now these two statistics are reflections of the efficiency of the team's skaters (minus the goalies).  


Quote: (You)
and why are you allowed to appeal to statistics but only count them the way you want to count them? I mean come on here folks you can't praise GA and take away credit from the goalie!  


I never prasied GA. Of course not. That is one of the most misleading statistics there is out there.



Ok, that's enough for me. I'm done!
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Post by: plcamp on March 06, 2004, 03:00:16 PM
OK Fine, OK.... fine - if you want it THAT much then...fine. OK?

Here you go...

Radek Bonk brings discipline into the attitude of this team. He doesn't glitter, but he does keep a focus. I like Radek Bonk. We miss him alot. Hossa misses him the most.

Alfie brings best example of consistent effort - as does (IMO) Smolinski and virtually always Schaeffer. Alfie also got lots of talent, Smokes not so much.

Havlat and Spezza are still showing considerable immaturity and both are surviving on raw talent and speed. They're gonna be great, though.

Bondra isn't clicking yet, I would love to see him with Bonk & Hossa. Team needs to start using him as their version of Brett Hull. They haven't figured that out yet but they will.

..so there's some thoughts about the rest of the team, with perhaps the Smokes item the only debatable one?

-----

Now do remember this IS a Lalime thread.
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Post by: TrentBlue on March 06, 2004, 03:27:16 PM
Quote from: Physrev
[TrentBlue] writes

 "...don't need to quote stats that are questionable at best and commentators that are more clueless than half the posters on this forum..."

Now, why would you say that?

I mean, a team that consistently gets considerably more shots on nets than the opponents is not a questionable-at-best statistics. Of course not. These teams find themselves at the top of the standings while those which allowed considerably more shots on nets than they get usually find themselves at the bottom of the well. In general, it's a good indicator of who dominates. Stats are not very meaningful when you have very little information (for example, shots on net for one game only may not tell the whole story) but when you are deep into the season, as we are now, then it becomes very meaningful.

Look, this is getting too long for me so I will address only the following.

Quote: (Me)
After Dallas, Ottawa has allowed the fewest shots on nets. (Do you think this could be if all these "lazy" players were as "lazy" as you suggest?)  


Quote: (You)
actually we're behind Dallas, San Jose, and New Jersey - ..."

This statement is incorrect.

San Jose has allowed approximately 300 more shots on net than Ottawa!!!! (SI, updated last night: San Jose 1949, Ottawa 1640, New Jersey 1649) Granted, it is possible that after last night's game New Jersey MAY have allowed fewer shots on nets than Ottawa ).



Quote: (Me)
Now these two statistics are reflections of the efficiency of the team's skaters (minus the goalies).  


Quote: (You)
and why are you allowed to appeal to statistics but only count them the way you want to count them? I mean come on here folks you can't praise GA and take away credit from the goalie!  


I never prasied GA. Of course not. That is one of the most misleading statistics there is out there.



Ok, that's enough for me. I'm done!


I errored Itook your shots point as a GA point so disregard those points...but that doesn't change my opinion that shots on goal don't matter my the quality of shots and the number of chances do.  If you just watch the highlights, or watch the game casually and check the score sheet then it's easy to crap on Lalime...but the reality remains that we're giving away too many quality breakdowns.  Save last game zone time isn't the problem...but giving them a quality chance every time they're in the zone is!
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Post by: TrentBlue on March 06, 2004, 03:31:00 PM
Quote from: plcamp
OK Fine, OK.... fine - if you want it THAT much then...fine. OK?

Here you go...

Radek Bonk brings discipline into the attitude of this team. He doesn't glitter, but he does keep a focus. I like Radek Bonk. We miss him alot. Hossa misses him the most.

Alfie brings best example of consistent effort - as does (IMO) Smolinski and virtually always Schaeffer. Alfie also got lots of talent, Smokes not so much.

Havlat and Spezza are still showing considerable immaturity and both are surviving on raw talent and speed. They're gonna be great, though.

Bondra isn't clicking yet, I would love to see him with Bonk & Hossa. Team needs to start using him as their version of Brett Hull. They haven't figured that out yet but they will.

..so there's some thoughts about the rest of the team, with perhaps the Smokes item the only debatable one?

-----

Now do remember this IS a Lalime thread.


Alfie has not been finishing his checks of late and just not playing as well as he was.  And I'm very down on Smolinski right now but that's probably because he's trying to fill in for Bonk and IMO is falling on his face hardcore.  His inability to cover other teams' top players is costing this team at the moment.  And the problem is that in a team sport you can't say I'm going to evaluate this guy without talking about the rest of the team because they're all related...especially in the goaltending position.  Again I'm not saying Lalime is great or that Emery should not have been given a shot at the start of this year...but I'm saying Lalime is not even close to my main concern right now...NOT EVEN BY A LONG SHOT
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Post by: Paddy on March 06, 2004, 04:35:06 PM
At this moment, Lalime is far and away the worst #1 goalie in the NHL, bar none. You can blame Norris trophy candidate Chara or Hart candidate Alfie or our number 5, 6 & 7 defencemen but at the end of the day we still have the worst #1 goalie in the NHL.

I wasted almost my entire month of January on this stupid thread, trying to point out, what is inescapably obvious to almost every NHL fan. I'm afraid that statistics don't lie, they are just further proof that Lalime is not worthy of being a number #1 goalie. I am not a troll or closet leaf fan or a troublemaker because I refuse to buy into this pipe dream that Lalime is going to somehow return to a form, I never even felt he had to begin with. And, if you are somehow expecting a radical improvement in his game when the playoffs start, well then I'm afraid you're going to be in for even more heartbreak.

You can NOT win in the playoffs without goaltending. Last year, Lalime played well for the most part but it wasn't good enough for us to win. This year, I don't see us beating any of the eastern division playoff teams in a seven game series with Lalime in nets. To be honest, I think we would even have trouble with Buffalo or Pittsburgh.

It's a shame really. Goaltending aside, we have arguably the best team, player for player, in the NHL. Colorado was the team that was supposed to have goaltending problems but their goalie managed to rise to the occassion. Detroit too, had their goaltending issues but I vastly prefer their chances with a supposedly washedup Cujo.

I am absolutely astounded that anyone would still support Lalime. I could go on and on but mercifully for everyone, I won't because this whole thread depresses me!!
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Post by: Lalime40 on March 06, 2004, 04:51:07 PM
"Ever notice that when the Sens get a 2 goal lead, they start playing normal, as they know that they now have a bit of a cushion and can play their style without worrying whether or not Lalime will flail on the next softie and lose the game for everyone (which happens regardless). They simply cannot play Sens style hockey when they have to compensate for a pathetic netminder.
"

yes, i do notice, and I call it getting lazy. We ussualy end up losing the game when this happens. I'm with Trent, if you think your goalie sucks, then you try even harder to reduce the scoring chances and shots on him. Think about it, how often do we get empty netter's scored on us? Or how about shinny hockey where there is no goalie? gimme a break. These are NHL players.  

AS for 'faith' plcamp, well i aplaud leafs fans for showing the passion for their team regardless of how they are doing. Not like some of the fans here who are quick to toss aside anyone player who's had a bad game. Let's see, i've seen calls for Redden's, White's, Rachunek's, Bonk's, Havlat, Hossa's, Alfredson's, Simpons already!, Smokes, Shaefer's, and Hnidy's heads. I'm sure i missed some. Our fans are quick to judge and cast a memeber aside regardless of what they've acheived for the team in the past. 'FAITH" my friend is exaclty what this team and it's fans are lacking. We've got the talent, we just need the 'faith' that we do. If we can do that, the cup is ours.
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Post by: Docawesome on March 06, 2004, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: Paddy
At this moment, Lalime is far and away the worst #1 goalie in the NHL, bar none. You can blame Norris trophy candidate Chara or Hart candidate Alfie or our number 5, 6 & 7 defencemen but at the end of the day we still have the worst #1 goalie in the NHL.

I wasted almost my entire month of January on this stupid thread, trying to point out, what is inescapably obvious to almost every NHL fan. I'm afraid that statistics don't lie, they are just further proof that Lalime is not worthy of being a number #1 goalie. I am not a troll or closet leaf fan or a troublemaker because I refuse to buy into this pipe dream that Lalime is going to somehow return to a form, I never even felt he had to begin with. And, if you are somehow expecting a radical improvement in his game when the playoffs start, well then I'm afraid you're going to be in for even more heartbreak.

You can NOT win in the playoffs without goaltending. Last year, Lalime played well for the most part but it wasn't good enough for us to win. This year, I don't see us beating any of the eastern division playoff teams in a seven game series with Lalime in nets. To be honest, I think we would even have trouble with Buffalo or Pittsburgh.

It's a shame really. Goaltending aside, we have arguably the best team, player for player, in the NHL. Colorado was the team that was supposed to have goaltending problems but their goalie managed to rise to the occassion. Detroit too, had their goaltending issues but I vastly prefer their chances with a supposedly washedup Cujo.

I am absolutely astounded that anyone would still support Lalime. I could go on and on but mercifully for everyone, I won't because this whole thread depresses me!!


I completely agree with you, Paddy. Lalime played well last year. Some argue than even the Lalime from last is not good enough to be our goaltender. IMO, If Lalime was consistent and we got the Lalime from last year every year, then most of us would agree that he is good enough to back stop this team in the playoffs. But reality says that he's not consistent at all. Even Osgoode seems to be more consistent.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 06, 2004, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
"Ever notice that when the Sens get a 2 goal lead, they start playing normal, as they know that they now have a bit of a cushion and can play their style without worrying whether or not Lalime will flail on the next softie and lose the game for everyone (which happens regardless). They simply cannot play Sens style hockey when they have to compensate for a pathetic netminder.
"

yes, i do notice, and I call it getting lazy. We ussualy end up losing the game when this happens. I'm with Trent, if you think your goalie sucks, then you try even harder to reduce the scoring chances and shots on him. Think about it, how often do we get empty netter's scored on us? Or how about shinny hockey where there is no goalie? gimme a break. These are NHL players.  

AS for 'faith' plcamp, well i aplaud leafs fans for showing the passion for their team regardless of how they are doing. Not like some of the fans here who are quick to toss aside anyone player who's had a bad game. Let's see, i've seen calls for Redden's, White's, Rachunek's, Bonk's, Havlat, Hossa's, Alfredson's, Simpons already!, Smokes, Shaefer's, and Hnidy's heads. I'm sure i missed some. Our fans are quick to judge and cast a memeber aside regardless of what they've acheived for the team in the past. 'FAITH" my friend is exaclty what this team and it's fans are lacking. We've got the talent, we just need the 'faith' that we do. If we can do that, the cup is ours.


Where do you get your evidence from? I live on TMLfans and Leaf fans quick to toss out Tucker, Belfour, Antropov, McCabe, Kaberle, Lumme, Corson, Belak, Green, Reichel, Renberg, Kidd, Domi, and Berg.

Here: http://www.tmlfans.ca/forums/index.php?board=1.0

Threads from 2002-2004 you'll find several dedicated to the axing of each player above.

Doc
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 06, 2004, 09:40:06 PM
Not much to say.
Lalime + bad d: 2 losses, 9 goals allowed.
Prusek + bad d: 1 Win, 2 goals allowed.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Physrev on March 06, 2004, 09:44:40 PM
Jacques Martin was asked (on French radio - post game) who would be  minding the nets for the next game. Not surprisingly, he said that they would decide tomorrow.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Johann on March 07, 2004, 12:11:36 AM
It's clear to me now that we usually only win with Lalime if we outplay the opposition. If the game is even or if we get outplayed with Lalime in net we almost always lose.

The situation reminds me of the last few years of Felix Potvin in Toronto (I was living there at the time) when he was simply living off past reputation and the fans hoping that he would get his 92-94 form back. Well, he never has gotten it back. Point being, that we can't just sit here and hope that Lalime will magically improve. His tendency of weak early goals already started last year.

If management doesn't give Prusek a chance, I believe it will come back to bite us in the ass. What else can a man possibly do to win a job? What does it say when someone can continually outperform his competition and yet not get rewarded for it.
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Post by: interzone on March 07, 2004, 12:20:25 AM
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What does it say when someone can continually outperform his competition and yet not get rewarded for it.


Er, he's not sleeping with the right people?

I'm hoping Muckler is smart enough to recognize a hotter goalie when he sees one. He was in Buffalo when they had Hasek; he's not completely oblivious. I hope.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 07, 2004, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: interzone
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What does it say when someone can continually outperform his competition and yet not get rewarded for it.


Er, he's not sleeping with the right people?

.


 :hshocked:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 07, 2004, 09:33:38 PM
So who starts tomorrow against the Caps?

Muckler: "Win this one and allow less than 2 goals and we'll keep ya. Lose it, and we're taking their goalie and you'll stay here them."
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 08, 2004, 07:19:35 AM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
"Ever notice that when the Sens get a 2 goal lead, they start playing normal, as they know that they now have a bit of a cushion and can play their style without worrying whether or not Lalime will flail on the next softie and lose the game for everyone (which happens regardless). They simply cannot play Sens style hockey when they have to compensate for a pathetic netminder.
"

yes, i do notice, and I call it getting lazy. We ussualy end up losing the game when this happens. I'm with Trent, if you think your goalie sucks, then you try even harder to reduce the scoring chances and shots on him. Think about it, how often do we get empty netter's scored on us? Or how about shinny hockey where there is no goalie? gimme a break. These are NHL players.  

AS for 'faith' plcamp, well i aplaud leafs fans for showing the passion for their team regardless of how they are doing. Not like some of the fans here who are quick to toss aside anyone player who's had a bad game. Let's see, i've seen calls for Redden's, White's, Rachunek's, Bonk's, Havlat, Hossa's, Alfredson's, Simpons already!, Smokes, Shaefer's, and Hnidy's heads. I'm sure i missed some. Our fans are quick to judge and cast a memeber aside regardless of what they've acheived for the team in the past. 'FAITH" my friend is exaclty what this team and it's fans are lacking. We've got the talent, we just need the 'faith' that we do. If we can do that, the cup is ours.


Where do you get your evidence from? I live on TMLfans and Leaf fans quick to toss out Tucker, Belfour, Antropov, McCabe, Kaberle, Lumme, Corson, Belak, Green, Reichel, Renberg, Kidd, Domi, and Berg.

Here: http://www.tmlfans.ca/forums/index.php?board=1.0

Threads from 2002-2004 you'll find several dedicated to the axing of each player above.

Doc



I'm talking about real leaf fans, not the ones on the forum's would proably want to see the entire Detroit Red wings wearings leaf uniforms and iwn the cup so they can have something to brag about. They are about as much of fans as some posters on this site.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 08, 2004, 07:20:34 AM
Quote from: Docawesome
Not much to say.
Lalime + bad d: 2 losses, 9 goals allowed.
Prusek + bad d: 1 Win, 2 goals allowed.



yeah against Nashville. He's a goalie god getting a win against them.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 08, 2004, 08:33:20 AM
Prusek is better and more consistent this year. Outside Ottawa, Lalime is getting crucified. There are too many good goalies on bad teams that deserve a shot here. Lalime will pull the rug out beneath us this April. At least we have had all season to prepare for this.

The only hope of us winning a cup is for us to score 5-6 goals a game...

I too am baffeled as to how someone can honestly say Lalime is great goalie when he has been getting worse in the playoffs the last few years and is destined to be even workse this year. He's only as good as our D, where as Prusek made several clutch saves. Its not the oppenent we play lalime40 its the quality of shots that are stopped during the game that counts.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 08, 2004, 09:08:49 AM
Quote from: Billy_Muckwalt

I too am baffeled as to how someone can honestly say Lalime is great goalie when he has been getting worse in the playoffs the last few years and is destined to be even workse this year. He's only as good as our D, where as Prusek made several clutch saves. Its not the oppenent we play lalime40 its the quality of shots that are stopped during the game that counts.


what team have you been watching Billy? can't be the sens cuz Lalime has gotten better every year in the playoff's. 3 years straight now.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 08, 2004, 11:28:06 AM
Read something depressing this morning.    Patty has 1 win in his last five and has 9 goals against in his last two games.    I'm trying to stay positive and not track it like that, but that is cold shower stuff.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on March 08, 2004, 11:36:07 AM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome
Not much to say.
Lalime + bad d: 2 losses, 9 goals allowed.
Prusek + bad d: 1 Win, 2 goals allowed.



yeah against Nashville. He's a goalie god getting a win against them.


Nashville is tied for 6th in the West with 76 points, they are not a walk-over team anymore.

I have resigned myself to the fact that Muckler is sticking with Lalime.  I don't know if Patty has some incriminating photos of Jacques and Muck or what but somehow they are sticking with him.

At least Prusek will be there to bail us out if neccesary.

Ummmm go Patty....yay.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on March 08, 2004, 11:36:16 AM
I'm sorry to say if I were Prusek, I'd be really ticked.  I wish that Patrick would find his game again but it's definitely MIA this season and, IMHO, it's moving further and further away.  Even listening to the game on Saturday against the Preds, with Prusek in there I wasn't sweating it.  Why?  Because he has been coming up with some real clutch saves and, sorry to say, I don't feel that way when Lalime is in there.  Sure, he's made some but he's let in many more that just shouldn't be.  He's way too inconsistent.  I've said it before but I will repeat....if, as a fan, I have lost confidence in Lalime to pull us out big games, how are his team-mates feeling out there?  I can't believe that it doesn't affect their game when he is in nets.  Is it just my imagination that there are fewer defensive lapses/brain cramps when Prusek is in there?  Do the team not seem to play with more confidence when Prusek is in there?  

I like Patrick...but like Pierre McGuire said this morning "lots of nice guys have never won Stanley Cups".  It's not a good enough reason to leave Patrick in there!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 11:44:14 AM
Quote from: OS
Read something depressing this morning.    Patty has 1 win in his last five and has 9 goals against in his last two games.    I'm trying to stay positive and not track it like that, but that is cold shower stuff.


Depressing indeed.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on March 08, 2004, 11:46:11 AM
Quote from: OS
that is cold shower stuff.


Not as "cold shower stuff" as sydney's avitars! ;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: rose
I'm sorry to say if I were Prusek, I'd be really ticked.  I wish that Patrick would find his game again but it's definitely MIA this season and, IMHO, it's moving further and further away.  Even listening to the game on Saturday against the Preds, with Prusek in there I wasn't sweating it.  Why?  Because he has been coming up with some real clutch saves and, sorry to say, I don't feel that way when Lalime is in there.  Sure, he's made some but he's let in many more that just shouldn't be.  He's way too inconsistent.  I've said it before but I will repeat....if, as a fan, I have lost confidence in Lalime to pull us out big games, how are his team-mates feeling out there?  I can't believe that it doesn't affect their game when he is in nets.


Rose, very well said. The perfect example is Toronto. Look how different they play with Belfour back there. I just had to imagine how the Sens would play with an elite or even an above average goaltender in their net.


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Is it just my imagination that there are fewer defensive lapses/brain cramps when Prusek is in there?  Do the team not seem to play with more confidence when Prusek is in there?  


Exactly! Same with Toronto. When he's in the in the net, suddenly they have more confidence and they're not worried about making the little mistake because they know Belfour is going to bail them out. And when you're not worrying you're making less erorrs because you're playing with more confidence.

Quote

I like Patrick...but like Pierre McGuire said this morning "lots of nice guys have never won Stanley Cups".  It's not a good enough reason to leave Patrick in there!


He also said "This is not NHL goaltending".  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 08, 2004, 12:11:23 PM
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Rose, very well said. The perfect example is Toronto. Look how different they play with Belfour back there. I just had to imagine how the Sens would play with an elite or even an above average goaltender in their net.


I don't even imagine.  They would be freakin' scary and the Eastern division race would already be over.    The bad goaltending is a rot that is eating away at the team.   You start to question if what you are doing is good enough, try new things, grab the sticks too tight, try too hard for the perfect defensive play because you don't want shots on net instead of the simple angling out to the boards.  

I look at young Rachunek and he had broken his awful habit of going down and taking himself out of the play but that is back with a vengence.  That came back along with the 'tending going down the tubes and I think the pressure of trying to be too perfect has gotten to him.

It's time to just give the job to Prusek for the rest of the season and make a decision for the playoffs after that.   If Prusek fails, play Lalime in the playoffs.   He can't be more inconsistent after a big layoff than he is right now with the whole season to get into a groove.   The extra practice time, rest and getting out of the firing line will probably do him some good.  It may even make him mad as h*ll which would be great.   I think Patty plays his best with stiff competition and something to lose.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on March 08, 2004, 12:20:34 PM
Steve actually made a good comment this morning on Team1200. If experience was the determining factor (as Jacques and Mucks have eluded to), Calgary would have Turek in nets and be out of their playoff spot. One can only imagine where we'd be if Prusek was allowed to take the ball.

With Muck's experience with that certain back-up with the unorthidox style that he pulled out of Chicago and brought to Buffalo, you'd think he might have endorsed giving Prusek more games to prove himself.

Oh well, Tuesday will likely pass without a goaltending change. And so do our chances at the cup.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on March 08, 2004, 12:28:25 PM
Driving the kids to school this morning, my son (who is the HUGE Lalime booster here at home over the years) was listening to the comments about Calgary quoted earlier in this thread, and  his comment was something along these lines: "Mom....maybe tonight is Patrick's last game in a Sens uniform and the Sens will leave Washington this time with Kolzig."  We all kind of chuckled at that.....and I'm not even saying that I would like to see that happen.....but, for me, it shows the desperation that even my son the "Patty will show you all" supreme supporter currently has.  My son is only 12 but is passionate about the game (one of those future season ticket buyers we all talk about!).  I found it interesting to note that he seems to have given up on his hero ever finding his game in time for the playoffs!  

Ah!  The joys of being a supporter of a team! :wink:
Title: ugh
Post by: SSF on March 08, 2004, 12:30:14 PM
hopefully after lalime loses/ties tongiht and looks bad as usual maybe the management team will be inclined to give Prusek some starts, otherwise another season of Sens hockey will undoubtedly go down the drain.

Only in Ottawa would this type of ineptitude be tolerated, especially with a better goaltender already FREAKING HERE sitting on the  bench.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on March 08, 2004, 12:30:49 PM
unfortunately I agree, COME ON MUCKS, PULL THE TRIGGER!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 08, 2004, 12:38:59 PM
Lalime40:
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what team have you been watching Billy? can't be the sens cuz Lalime has gotten better every year in the playoff's. 3 years straight now.


LMAO!

He has NOT been getting better three years in a row, head over and check the stats I am not going to post them. At least I know why some people are so pro lalime though at this stage in the game. He wouldn't be a good AHL goalie this year. He's the worst #1 goalie in the NHL and when compared to "elite" teams such as the sens its a complete and total embarassment

He also let in the first goal on the first 2 shots, 7 games across all the series last year. Thats 7 games where your goalie is putting you back a goal right out of the gate. I forget what the final number was, but the opposing team scored first about 80% of the time. Then look at the NJ series where he blew a tire in game 4 and cost the sens dearly by funneleing 5 shots. In two games of that seies he let in 9 goals ( Familiar eh?).... He was far from consistent, he just played on a good team that was capable of over powering our opponents. Had we not had this Sieve in nets and had a true goialie who can steal you games, we would have gone to the cup. Make no mistake, he cost us last year, and will d it again this year. You can see how this all star line up story  is going play out years down the road...  " We had the best and most capable team with depth from hell to halifax, if only we had the goaltending, we could have won the cup"

Goaltending was a major factor why we didn't get the cup tlast year, and this year it will be the same...

I dont understand why the Sens are making all these moves when Lalime will just pull the rug out in the 1st round. The year he leaves Ottawa is the year we win the cup. Lalime is terrible. I have no idea why people like this guy, and niether do any of Hockey's top analysts, but hey , what do they know... ;)

If Lalime were a true team player, he would remove himself from the 1 spot and do whats best to make the team win, instead of flounder our best chance in a LONG time.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on March 08, 2004, 12:40:11 PM
I would feel badly if the Sens went into the playoffs with Prusek in nets and lost.

I would be mad as he** if the Sens went into the playoffs with Lalime in nets and lost.  

I fear that the second option is the one we will be experiencing and it will not be pretty around this city.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 08, 2004, 12:41:17 PM
I agree,

Get ready for a Lalime lynching when we lose to the leafs again.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 12:46:34 PM
Seriously, does someone have to go to this guys house and break his arms and legs in order to let the rest of the team and fans have a decent shot at the cup? (Don't worry, I'm waay over here in Edmonton).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 08, 2004, 12:48:56 PM
" I'm waay over here in Edmonton"

Man when your rivals say your goalie is horrible, we really have problems...

You should be cheering for him to stay in nets. As long as Lalime is our starter, were NOT a contender.

15-1 odds Lalime takes us to the cup, whoa... terrible.

A horse with a wounded  leg usually gets 9-1 in vegas..

Do the math...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 12:51:56 PM
Quote from: Billy_Muckwalt
" I'm waay over here in Edmonton"

Man when your rivals say your goalie is horrible, we really have problems...

You should be cheering for him to stay in nets. As long as Lalime is our started, were NOT a contender.


I've always been a Sens fan, since their return to the NHL.
Never have I been a Western Conference fan(for my #1 team that is), don't know why, just never have.
I do like the Oil as a 2nd though, well, them and Calgary are 2nd and 3rd. Gotta root for the underdogs ya know!

Hey, the Sens are here on the 14th, perhaps I should find out which hotel they'll be in...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Dagwood on March 08, 2004, 12:53:37 PM
What baffles me the most is the fact that JM used to rotate Rhodes and Tugger all the time. Back then he said he liked the two goalie system.  What's changed?  What the Hell is the problem with letting Prusek play some games.  Maybe Lalime will actually get hungrier riding the pine.

Play one or the other while they are hot...then pull them when they are not.  JM is already quoted as saying Lalime is playing the next 3 out of 4 road games.  WHY oh WHY oh WHY?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on March 08, 2004, 01:01:03 PM
Dagwood...I've wondered the same thing myself?!?  For a coach that is so freaking consistent, he's been very inconsistent with his goalie selections this season.  Why?  What is it that he sees about Lalime that, apparently, no one else does (other than the real die-hard Lalime fans...perhaps they know?).  But as I stated earlier and will elaborate on...am I the only who thinks that while we are waiting for Lalime to "get his game back", that Prusek is riding the pine thinking "What do I have to do to get some games here?" when HE performs well? Will this not be messing with HIS focus?  Sure...he knows he's the back-up, but give me a break!  Do we want to go into the playoffs with a goalie who has not found his focus all season AND one who has lost his focus because, frankly, he could stonewall everyone and, IMHO, he still wouldn't get his share of starts.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 08, 2004, 01:02:44 PM
Muckwalts cheap shot of the day:

" I would feel more confidence if they just turned the net around backwards and played with 5 men. At least that way the opposing team couldn't score from center ice so easliy..."


We got until the end of tomorrow to make a deal here, at that time we will know if were a contender or not this year.

As far as Mucks and Co. not making the right move here. Its easily summed up by the prosecution in Martha Stewart's case: "Smart people make dumb mistakes too"
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 01:11:42 PM
Quote from: rose
Dagwood...I've wondered the same thing myself?!?  For a coach that is so freaking consistent, he's been very inconsistent with his goalie selections this season.  Why?  What is it that he sees about Lalime that, apparently, no one else does (other than the real die-hard Lalime fans...perhaps they know?).  But as I stated earlier and will elaborate on...am I the only who thinks that while we are waiting for Lalime to "get his game back", that Prusek is riding the pine thinking "What do I have to do to get some games here?" when HE performs well? Will this not be messing with HIS focus?  Sure...he knows he's the back-up, but give me a break!  Do we want to go into the playoffs with a goalie who has not found his focus all season AND one who has lost his focus because, frankly, he could stonewall everyone and, IMHO, he still wouldn't get his share of starts.


Agreed, rose. This is probably damaging Prusek as well. He's the backup, yet the numbers clearly show that he's #1. Fairness and common sense say, production should be used as the measuring stick not loyalty.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 08, 2004, 01:42:41 PM
Kind of late but I haven't seen this posted up - maybe buried in the gamethread.  Anyway, the goal that really ticked me off was Philly's 5th one.  At that point, down 2 goals with lots of time left, I really thought the Sens were going to come back.  The Flyer defence was very thin and the Sens had control of the play, but that cruddy side of the net, peewee level, goal was a total killer.   So on top of it all, blame Lalime for the brawl because the game should have been closer  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Metalhawk on March 08, 2004, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: OS
Kind of late but I haven't seen this posted up - maybe buried in the gamethread.  Anyway, the goal that really ticked me off was Philly's 5th one.  At that point, down 2 goals with lots of time left, I really thought the Sens were going to come back.  The Flyer defence was very thin and the Sens had control of the play, but that cruddy side of the net, peewee level, goal was a total killer.   So on top of it all, blame Lalime for the brawl because the game should have been closer  :wink:


No argument there. Lalime took the wind right out of the Sens' sails yet again.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on March 08, 2004, 02:24:50 PM
I agree with you both about the fifth goal, but was it only me who thought Lalime - on his knees before the shot was taken - ducked on the gamewinning  fourth goal?!?  I watched the replay a few times just to confirm in my own mind and he ducked!  Doesn't do much to inspire confidence in me as a fan.  Heck!  Prusek early in the season took one on the cage that dented it but he made the save.  I honestly thought that Lalime would be pulled after that fourth goal...but they left him in so that he could let a fifth go in too!   :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 02:30:34 PM
Down early as usual.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: rose
Dagwood...I've wondered the same thing myself?!?  For a coach that is so freaking consistent, he's been very inconsistent with his goalie selections this season.  Why?  What is it that he sees about Lalime that, apparently, no one else does (other than the real die-hard Lalime fans...perhaps they know?).  But as I stated earlier and will elaborate on...am I the only who thinks that while we are waiting for Lalime to "get his game back", that Prusek is riding the pine thinking "What do I have to do to get some games here?" when HE performs well? Will this not be messing with HIS focus?  Sure...he knows he's the back-up, but give me a break!  Do we want to go into the playoffs with a goalie who has not found his focus all season AND one who has lost his focus because, frankly, he could stonewall everyone and, IMHO, he still wouldn't get his share of starts.


Agreed, rose. This is probably damaging Prusek as well. He's the backup, yet the numbers clearly show that he's #1. Fairness and common sense say, production should be used as the measuring stick not loyalty.


Maybe just maybe Sens management is holding Prusek back until the playoffs start and only giving him spot duty against the teams he won't face in the playoffs? This is maybe the case so other teams will not know exactly what to expect from Prusek. I really hope so. We could suprise a few teams with this strategy?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on March 08, 2004, 02:50:21 PM
This would certainly earn management kudos from all of the fans frustrated with Lalime's play this year, should it happen and actually work! But, man oh man, what a huge risk!  It will all be very interesting, indeed, these next few weeks to see how this all plays out.
 :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on March 08, 2004, 02:52:32 PM
At least there's a note of drama involved. It would've been boring just holding our breaths and waiting as our patched, spectacular, motivated, deadly team iced in the playoffs, with an unbeatable Lalime. Really, it would.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: interzone
At least there's a note of drama involved. It would've been boring just holding our breaths and waiting as our patched, spectacular, motivated, deadly team to ice in the playoffs, with an unbeatable Lalime. Really, it would.


I would, however, be ok with the boring unbeatable option.   :D
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: interzone
At least there's a note of drama involved. It would've been boring just holding our breaths and waiting as our patched, spectacular, motivated, deadly team to ice in the playoffs, with an unbeatable Lalime. Really, it would.


I would, howver, be ok with the boring unbeatable option.   :D


I totally agree, but as the deadline gets closer this may be all we have to look forward to :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 03:02:16 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: interzone
At least there's a note of drama involved. It would've been boring just holding our breaths and waiting as our patched, spectacular, motivated, deadly team to ice in the playoffs, with an unbeatable Lalime. Really, it would.


I would, howver, be ok with the boring unbeatable option.   :D


I totally agree, but as the deadline gets closer this may be all we have to look forward to :wink:


Not true...the return of BONK...it's like a birthday present 4 and a half months early!   :D
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on March 08, 2004, 03:12:08 PM
Quote
Not true...the return of BONK...it's like a birthday present 4 and a half months early!


I noticed something, our PP hasn't been that awful as of late. We were finally learning to cope without Bonk.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Five_Minute_Major on March 08, 2004, 03:15:16 PM
Let's say JM sticks to what he's been saying and 2 games into the first round, Lalime has been weak and we're down 2-0 in the series.  Do you think he'll have the guts to put Prusek in there and try to save a sinking ship or will he stick to his guns and live or die with Lalime?

I hope that he will have the guts to admit he was wrong...but I'm not so sure.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 03:22:22 PM
Quote from: Five_Minute_Major
Let's say JM sticks to what he's been saying and 2 games into the first round, Lalime has been weak and we're down 2-0 in the series.  Do you think he'll have the guts to put Prusek in there and try to save a sinking ship or will he stick to his guns and live or die with Lalime?

I hope that he will have the guts to admit he was wrong...but I'm not so sure.


He hasn't so far this season....unless Muckler tells him to I expect JM to just keep doing the same old thing...start Lalime and lose :cry:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: interzone
Quote
Not true...the return of BONK...it's like a birthday present 4 and a half months early!


I noticed something, our PP hasn't been that awful as of late. We were finally learning to cope without Bonk.


not true actually!  Again this is why you can't just look at stats.  Take the other night..they actually did get 2 PP goals...but one was 4-3 at the end of the game and simply didn't matter...while the other one was the Big Z point shot off the Jason Spezza pass.  The first line PP still blows.  And even when they get the odd goal it has been in the 7-1 games when it doesn't matter and off a rush.  Just watch them they simply cannot get setup and work the the puck around.  Whoever is trying to do Bonk's job on the right boards is either too slow which means a give away or too fast which means Alfie or Hossa or Havlat don't get enough time with the puck either in the corner or at the point.

They are not getting PP goals when they need them!
Title: Lalime will get his game back!
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 03:36:45 PM
For all of u senators fans and non-sens fans whop think Lalime can't take ottawa to the stanley cup or even take them into the playoffs; you couldn't BE MORE WRONG! Patrick Lalime is one of the top goaltender in the NHL todate! Calling him out and and bad mouthing him is the stupidest thing to do IF U WANT HIM AND THE TEAM TO DO WELL! Lalime's had a pretty rough season and a couple off nights! But the right thing to do is not bad mouth him and call him a bad goalie! The RIGHT thing to do is to cheer for him and notice the good things he dose for this organization! so we can have the Patrick Lalime we know back! The Patrick Lalime that helped ottawa win the president's trophy! The Patrick Lalime that took the Ottawa Senators into the NHL Eastern Conference Finals! Know if we can do taht (cheer him on and compiment his games) THEN THE OTTAWA SENATORS CAN AND WILL WIN THE STANLEY CUP!
Title: Re: Lalime will get his game back!
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 03:42:19 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
For all of u senators fans and non-sens fans whop think Lalime can't take ottawa to the stanley cup or even take them into the playoffs; you couldn't BE MORE WRONG! Patrick Lalime is one of the top goaltender in the NHL todate! Calling him out and and bad mouthing him is the stupidest thing to do IF U WANT HIM AND THE TEAM TO DO WELL! Lalime's had a pretty rough season and a couple off nights! But the right thing to do is not bad mouth him and call him a bad goalie! The RIGHT thing to do is to cheer for him and notice the good things he dose for this organization! so we can have the Patrick Lalime we know back! The Patrick Lalime that helped ottawa win the president's trophy! The Patrick Lalime that took the Ottawa Senators into the NHL Eastern Conference Finals! Know if we can do taht (cheer him on and compiment his games) THEN THE OTTAWA SENATORS CAN AND WILL WIN THE STANLEY CUP!


The only way we make it to the finals and win the cup is if we cheer for Lalime. I will definitely cheer for him IF he is firmly planted on the bench for the entire playoffs...that's our only chance as I see it! :twisted:
Title: Re: Lalime will get his game back!
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 03:42:23 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
For all of u senators fans and non-sens fans whop think Lalime can't take ottawa to the stanley cup or even take them into the playoffs; you couldn't BE MORE WRONG! Patrick Lalime is one of the top goaltender in the NHL todate! Calling him out and and bad mouthing him is the stupidest thing to do IF U WANT HIM AND THE TEAM TO DO WELL! Lalime's had a pretty rough season and a couple off nights! But the right thing to do is not bad mouth him and call him a bad goalie! The RIGHT thing to do is to cheer for him and notice the good things he dose for this organization! so we can have the Patrick Lalime we know back! The Patrick Lalime that helped ottawa win the president's trophy! The Patrick Lalime that took the Ottawa Senators into the NHL Eastern Conference Finals! Know if we can do taht (cheer him on and compiment his games) THEN THE OTTAWA SENATORS CAN AND WILL WIN THE STANLEY CUP!


ummmm you're going to have to expand your arguments....scratch that...your points without arguments.

where is this 'right thing to do' coming from?
why do you assume he cannot be motivated by criticism?
he has had a lot more off nights than a couple of games.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 08, 2004, 03:43:31 PM
If cheering for Lalime could make him turn his game around he would have already.  Lalimerules man, you won't find anyone here who doesn't like Laime, he isn't attacked personally.    

He has gotten props, kudos, compliments, thumbs up, pats on the back, atta boys, way to goes, keep the chin ups, and way more slack cut for him than any other player on the team.  Bottom line, this is a year to take a run for the cup and he is not playing good enough for an NHL contender.
Title: Re: Lalime will get his game back!
Post by: Dagwood on March 08, 2004, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
For all of u senators fans and non-sens fans whop think Lalime can't take ottawa to the stanley cup or even take them into the playoffs; you couldn't BE MORE WRONG! Patrick Lalime is one of the top goaltender in the NHL todate! Calling him out and and bad mouthing him is the stupidest thing to do IF U WANT HIM AND THE TEAM TO DO WELL! Lalime's had a pretty rough season and a couple off nights! But the right thing to do is not bad mouth him and call him a bad goalie! The RIGHT thing to do is to cheer for him and notice the good things he dose for this organization! so we can have the Patrick Lalime we know back! The Patrick Lalime that helped ottawa win the president's trophy! The Patrick Lalime that took the Ottawa Senators into the NHL Eastern Conference Finals! Know if we can do taht (cheer him on and compiment his games) THEN THE OTTAWA SENATORS CAN AND WILL WIN THE STANLEY CUP!


<<<Still watching>>>> Don't call us out on this friend and I use the term lightly because you simply make no sense at all unless of course your thinking we're all idiots.  We've been down this road all season and every time we start to think Lalime is about to change, he falls flat on his ass again.  Don't post and run without adding some logic behind your argument because as it is.. your looking like a Fan from another team in Sens colours.
Title: Re: Lalime will get his game back!
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 03:47:03 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
For all of u senators fans and non-sens fans whop think Lalime can't take ottawa to the stanley cup or even take them into the playoffs; you couldn't BE MORE WRONG! Patrick Lalime is one of the top goaltender in the NHL todate! Calling him out and and bad mouthing him is the stupidest thing to do IF U WANT HIM AND THE TEAM TO DO WELL! Lalime's had a pretty rough season and a couple off nights! But the right thing to do is not bad mouth him and call him a bad goalie! The RIGHT thing to do is to cheer for him and notice the good things he dose for this organization! so we can have the Patrick Lalime we know back! The Patrick Lalime that helped ottawa win the president's trophy! The Patrick Lalime that took the Ottawa Senators into the NHL Eastern Conference Finals! Know if we can do taht (cheer him on and compiment his games) THEN THE OTTAWA SENATORS CAN AND WILL WIN THE STANLEY CUP!


LOL

So you want us to cheer him when he sucks? You mean sarcasticaly, right? Because there's no other way. We could fake-cheer him, but that is the definition of sarcastic cheering.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Five_Minute_Major
Let's say JM sticks to what he's been saying and 2 games into the first round, Lalime has been weak and we're down 2-0 in the series.  Do you think he'll have the guts to put Prusek in there and try to save a sinking ship or will he stick to his guns and live or die with Lalime?

I hope that he will have the guts to admit he was wrong...but I'm not so sure.


He hasn't so far this season....unless Muckler tells him to I expect JM to just keep doing the same old thing...start Lalime and lose :cry:


I couldn't DISAGREE MORE WITH WHAT YOU SAID! Yes, Patrick lalime has had a bad season and let in a few soft goals! BUT EVERY GOALIE HAS HAD A BAD SEASON! and this is lalime's FIRST! Patrick lalime has done so much for this organization in the past and NEVER oce got the respect or the fan support he deserved! Patrick Lalime is a hell of a good goaltender and will get his game back! JM is right to stick with Lalime; iam not saying Prusek is a bad goalie because he is great but his time has not come to be Ottawa's number 1 goaltender! and persoanly when and IF he dose becom Ottawa's #1 I dont think he will be in that postition for more that a season! with Emery Ottawa's prospect goaltender he will be ready for a job permanatly in the NHL within 2-3 seasons! But for Now Patrick Lalime is our #1 and he needs and DESERVES better Fan support than he has goton in the past couple months! These are harder times for Lalime than they are for the Jowe senators fan! He will get his game back and will becom ethe Patrick Lalime we all remember again! Iam with Patrick Lalime and the Seanots Organization WIN LOSE OR TIE! now if only all the sens fans could be that way we would have a better hockey club and a WAY better Golatender!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BingoSensFan on March 08, 2004, 03:51:31 PM
Hmmm......both Kolzig and Witt will not play tonight due to the famous "trade deadline flu."
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on March 08, 2004, 03:51:33 PM
I DO cheer for Lalime when I am at the games.  I vent when I am on this site.  Lalime has had lots of support from fans on this site, fans on the street, fans in the seats and the local media.  I swear, every goal he lets in, someone claims it went in off someone else, he had "no chance", it richocheted off someone's foot, someone's stick, ad nauseau, ad infinitum.  It's like nothing he ever does is his responsibility...it's everyone else's.  Frankly, if I were a member on this team, I'd be frustrated with how there is never any accountability from Lalime for how he has played.  Everyone else is responsible.....but never Patrick.

I am just tired of it because while I thought early on that he would "find his game", I have lost hope that he will this year.  And I just don't think that it's fair to the rest of the team - including Prusek - or the fans who are tired of his performance (or lack thereof).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Five_Minute_Major
Let's say JM sticks to what he's been saying and 2 games into the first round, Lalime has been weak and we're down 2-0 in the series.  Do you think he'll have the guts to put Prusek in there and try to save a sinking ship or will he stick to his guns and live or die with Lalime?

I hope that he will have the guts to admit he was wrong...but I'm not so sure.


He hasn't so far this season....unless Muckler tells him to I expect JM to just keep doing the same old thing...start Lalime and lose :cry:


I couldn't DISAGREE MORE WITH WHAT YOU SAID! Yes, Patrick lalime has had a bad season and let in a few soft goals! BUT EVERY GOALIE HAS HAD A BAD SEASON! and this is lalime's FIRST! Patrick lalime has done so much for this organization in the past and NEVER oce got the respect or the fan support he deserved! Patrick Lalime is a hell of a good goaltender and will get his game back! JM is right to stick with Lalime; iam not saying Prusek is a bad goalie because he is great but his time has not come to be Ottawa's number 1 goaltender! and persoanly when and IF he dose becom Ottawa's #1 I dont think he will be in that postition for more that a season! with Emery Ottawa's prospect goaltender he will be ready for a job permanatly in the NHL within 2-3 seasons! But for Now Patrick Lalime is our #1 and he needs and DESERVES better Fan support than he has goton in the past couple months! These are harder times for Lalime than they are for the Jowe senators fan! He will get his game back and will becom ethe Patrick Lalime we all remember again! Iam with Patrick Lalime and the Seanots Organization WIN LOSE OR TIE! now if only all the sens fans could be that way we would have a better hockey club and a WAY better Golatender!


The Lalime I remember is the one who cost us the NJD series last year! I don't want the old Lalime back...I don't want any Lalime back :twisted:
Title: Lalime will get his gameback! THa i promise you!
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 03:57:10 PM
Quote from: rose
I DO cheer for Lalime when I am at the games.  I vent when I am on this site.  Lalime has had lots of support from fans on this site, fans on the street, fans in the seats and the local media.  I swear, every goal he lets in, someone claims it went in off someone else, he had "no chance", it richocheted off someone's foot, someone's stick, ad nauseau, ad infinitum.  It's like nothing he ever does is his responsibility...it's everyone else's.  Frankly, if I were a member on this team, I'd be frustrated with how there is never any accountability from Lalime for how he has played.  Everyone else is responsible.....but never Patrick.

I am just tired of it because while I thought early on that he would "find his game", I have lost hope that he will this year.  And I just don't think that it's fair to the rest of the team - including Prusek - or the fans who are tired of his performance (or lack thereof).


I herby promise you that Patrick lalime will get his game back! Becuase i know hw will! I just am sick and tierd of everyone bad mouthing Lalime! THIS IS HIS FIRST BAD SEASON! and guess waht even the "great" Martin Brodeur had a bad season! ALL GOALIES HAVE THEM! The fans just have to stand by the  players having the bad season! We must stick up for them! They need their confidence baxck and bad mouthing them and mocking them wont help that cause!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Dagwood on March 08, 2004, 03:59:09 PM
Lalime needs to prove he can backup our team with a solid performance. Sadly that aspect of his game seems to have disappeared from his repetoire (Spelling?). Anyway, because of his current situation, which has not improved at all since Decemeber, I think it's only fair that Prusek gets a chance to earn his keep on this team. That's why you have backups.

When your #1 guy plays poorly or is injured, #2 steps in to keep the team rolling along.  Right now the Team does not play the offensive game they can because they are all stuck with one hand tied behind their back. In otherwords, Lalime is a liability right now. He needs to ride the pine and find his game/confidence in practice.  

Historically, Lalime has always been rated a #2 goalie...never a #1 except from the Sens.  We will not go far if we ride this wave of self destruction for to long.  

Sorry LalimeRules...but reality states... Prusek will be our guy going into the playoffs unless Lalime does a 180 and fast.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: LalimeRules
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Five_Minute_Major
Let's say JM sticks to what he's been saying and 2 games into the first round, Lalime has been weak and we're down 2-0 in the series.  Do you think he'll have the guts to put Prusek in there and try to save a sinking ship or will he stick to his guns and live or die with Lalime?

I hope that he will have the guts to admit he was wrong...but I'm not so sure.


He hasn't so far this season....unless Muckler tells him to I expect JM to just keep doing the same old thing...start Lalime and lose :cry:


I couldn't DISAGREE MORE WITH WHAT YOU SAID! Yes, Patrick lalime has had a bad season and let in a few soft goals! BUT EVERY GOALIE HAS HAD A BAD SEASON! and this is lalime's FIRST! Patrick lalime has done so much for this organization in the past and NEVER oce got the respect or the fan support he deserved! Patrick Lalime is a hell of a good goaltender and will get his game back! JM is right to stick with Lalime; iam not saying Prusek is a bad goalie because he is great but his time has not come to be Ottawa's number 1 goaltender! and persoanly when and IF he dose becom Ottawa's #1 I dont think he will be in that postition for more that a season! with Emery Ottawa's prospect goaltender he will be ready for a job permanatly in the NHL within 2-3 seasons! But for Now Patrick Lalime is our #1 and he needs and DESERVES better Fan support than he has goton in the past couple months! These are harder times for Lalime than they are for the Jowe senators fan! He will get his game back and will becom ethe Patrick Lalime we all remember again! Iam with Patrick Lalime and the Seanots Organization WIN LOSE OR TIE! now if only all the sens fans could be that way we would have a better hockey club and a WAY better Golatender!


The Lalime I remember is the one who cost us the NJD series last year! I don't want the old Lalime back...I don't want any Lalime back :twisted:


DO U ACTUALLY BELIVE LALIME IS THE ONE WHO COST US THAT GAME! DO YOU! Patrick lalime is the only reason we made it as far as we did agains the NJD! Everyone on that team ESPECIALLY Lalime played geat! No one was to blame for that goal! NO ONE! Definatly not LALIME! BY Now  i remember that game and i remember REDDEN AND RACHUNEK l giving up the puck and giving the break away NOT LALIME! and i am still not blaming those two GREAT defencman! Patrick Lalime is a pheominal goalie and did not cost us that game in anyways shape or form!

By the way do yuo recal GAME 6 agains the Devils! It certanly wasn't our great offense that kept us in that game! and not the defence either! It was Lalime who faced over 40 shots in that game!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Dagwood on March 08, 2004, 04:07:34 PM
Jen#40...looks like you have a new dance partner. :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 04:09:20 PM
LalimeRules - a little hint - Dallas sens fan is very unreasonable. Don't bother arguing with him.

Plcamp is similar, but not quite as bad! (He's been getting progressively worse though).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Jen#40...looks like you have a new dance partner. :wink:


yes, and I'm glad. He (she?) can help with some of the arguing. Quite frankly, I'm spent. ;)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Lalime needs to prove he can backup our team with a solid performance. Sadly that aspect of his game seems to have disappeared from his repetoire (Spelling?). Anyway, because of his current situation, which has not improved at all since Decemeber, I think it's only fair that Prusek gets a chance to earn his keep on this team. That's why you have backups.

When your #1 guy plays poorly or is injured, #2 steps in to keep the team rolling along.  Right now the Team does not play the offensive game they can because they are all stuck with one hand tied behind their back. In otherwords, Lalime is a liability right now. He needs to ride the pine and find his game/confidence in practice.  

Historically, Lalime has always been rated a #2 goalie...never a #1 except from the Sens.  We will not go far if we ride this wave of self destruction for to long.

You know what i honestly respect you opinion! but the fact still remains this is Lalime's real FIRST bad season! and where would the NJD be know if they had gotten rid of Brodeur after his bad season? i sak you that! I belive in Lalime and I i belive that he will get his game back and will be the goalie we can rely on again! I am not putting prusek down beause iam not the ind of sens fan who puts down a player after a few bad games ( as u can see) iam just saying that i dont think Prusek will be our #1! i honestly don'e! and who knows i may be wrong. But until iam proven wrong i will still belive in Patrick Lalime! and if (i hear rumors) Mukler trades Lalime i think that will be a big mistake on his behalf!  

Sorry LalimeRules...but reality states... Prusek will be our guy going into the playoffs unless Lalime does a 180 and fast.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: rose
 I swear, every goal he lets in, someone claims it went in off someone else, he had "no chance", it richocheted off someone's foot, someone's stick, ad nauseau, ad infinitum.  It's like nothing he ever does is his responsibility...it's everyone else's.  


With all due respect Rose, that simply isn't true. Most people have been giving Lalime more than his fair share of the blame. In fact, because it's Lalime's fault and no one elses ( :roll: ) it's caused some of us to be exrtemely defensive and have to disect every goal. Quite frankly ridiculous.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: JAY-MAN on March 08, 2004, 04:16:12 PM
may i remind everyone that Lalime has really only had maybe 2 bad games since the all star break, every goalie does, even the best. may i remind everyone about how bad Bellfours last season in Dallas was, then look how good he was in TO.  all goalies will have a bad game, Lalime has come around since the all star break, anyone can see that
Title: Re: Lalime's 180
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 04:17:52 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Lalime needs to prove he can backup our team with a solid performance. Sadly that aspect of his game seems to have disappeared from his repetoire (Spelling?). Anyway, because of his current situation, which has not improved at all since Decemeber, I think it's only fair that Prusek gets a chance to earn his keep on this team. That's why you have backups.

When your #1 guy plays poorly or is injured, #2 steps in to keep the team rolling along.  Right now the Team does not play the offensive game they can because they are all stuck with one hand tied behind their back. In otherwords, Lalime is a liability right now. He needs to ride the pine and find his game/confidence in practice.  

Historically, Lalime has always been rated a #2 goalie...never a #1 except from the Sens.  We will not go far if we ride this wave of self destruction for to long.  

You know what i honestly respect you opinion! but the fact still remains this is Lalime's real FIRST bad season! and where would the NJD be know if they had gotten rid of Brodeur after his bad season? i sak you that! I belive in Lalime and I i belive that he will get his game back and will be the goalie we can rely on again! I am not putting prusek down beause iam not the ind of sens fan who puts down a player after a few bad games ( as u can see) iam just saying that i dont think Prusek will be our #1! i honestly don'e! and who knows i may be wrong. But until iam proven wrong i will still belive in Patrick Lalime! and if (i hear rumors) Mukler trades Lalime i think that will be a big mistake on his behalf!  




Sorry LalimeRules...but reality states... Prusek will be our guy going into the playoffs unless Lalime does a 180 and fast.
Title: Re: Lalime's 180
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Lalime needs to prove he can backup our team with a solid performance. Sadly that aspect of his game seems to have disappeared from his repetoire (Spelling?). Anyway, because of his current situation, which has not improved at all since Decemeber, I think it's only fair that Prusek gets a chance to earn his keep on this team. That's why you have backups.

When your #1 guy plays poorly or is injured, #2 steps in to keep the team rolling along.  Right now the Team does not play the offensive game they can because they are all stuck with one hand tied behind their back. In otherwords, Lalime is a liability right now. He needs to ride the pine and find his game/confidence in practice.  

Historically, Lalime has always been rated a #2 goalie...never a #1 except from the Sens.  We will not go far if we ride this wave of self destruction for to long.  

You know what i honestly respect you opinion! but the fact still remains this is Lalime's real FIRST bad season! and where would the NJD be know if they had gotten rid of Brodeur after his bad season? i sak you that! I belive in Lalime and I i belive that he will get his game back and will be the goalie we can rely on again! I am not putting prusek down beause iam not the ind of sens fan who puts down a player after a few bad games ( as u can see) iam just saying that i dont think Prusek will be our #1! i honestly don'e! and who knows i may be wrong. But until iam proven wrong i will still belive in Patrick Lalime! and if (i hear rumors) Mukler trades Lalime i think that will be a big mistake on his behalf!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 08, 2004, 04:19:07 PM
Jay-Man, but he hasn't had any stellar ones.  Being somewhat competent in a bunch of games with less than 20 shots then blowing hard in others is the problem.    Also look at how the Stars did with Belfour in Dallas that last year.    1 win in the last 5 games is not good.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Dagwood on March 08, 2004, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what i honestly respect you opinion! but the fact still remains this is Lalime's real FIRST bad season! and where would the NJD be know if they had gotten rid of Brodeur after his bad season? i sak you that! I belive in Lalime and I i belive that he will get his game back and will be the goalie we can rely on again! I am not putting prusek down beause iam not the ind of sens fan who puts down a player after a few bad games ( as u can see) iam just saying that i dont think Prusek will be our #1! i honestly don'e! and who knows i may be wrong. But until iam proven wrong i will still belive in Patrick Lalime! and if (i hear rumors) Mukler trades Lalime i think that will be a big mistake on his behalf!  


I'm not arguing with that.  You are correct in every aspect except for the obvious.  Lalime has been given his chances since Novemeber/December.
He has not responded to the challenge. That's all.

As a fan, I will decapitate JM if we ride Lalime into the finals playing the way he is and still does not improve and we get ousted. I'm not saying Lalime can't improve. He just hasn't to date.

I more than anyone would like to see Patty of Old return to form...but in the same token... If someone tells me to buy a $300,000 home based on description and positive energy instead of a visual inspection and common sense...I'm just not going to do it.

Fact is, Lalime is playing below his ability. How do you fix that? I don't think playing him until the cows come home is the answer. Not at this stage of a season.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 04:23:32 PM
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Let's say JM sticks to what he's been saying and 2 games into the first round, Lalime has been weak and we're down 2-0 in the series.  Do you think he'll have the guts to put Prusek in there and try to save a sinking ship or will he stick to his guns and live or die with Lalime?

I hope that he will have the guts to admit he was wrong...but I'm not so sure.


He hasn't so far this season....unless Muckler tells him to I expect JM to just keep doing the same old thing...start Lalime and lose :cry:


I couldn't DISAGREE MORE WITH WHAT YOU SAID! Yes, Patrick lalime has had a bad season and let in a few soft goals! BUT EVERY GOALIE HAS HAD A BAD SEASON! and this is lalime's FIRST! Patrick lalime has done so much for this organization in the past and NEVER oce got the respect or the fan support he deserved! Patrick Lalime is a hell of a good goaltender and will get his game back! JM is right to stick with Lalime; iam not saying Prusek is a bad goalie because he is great but his time has not come to be Ottawa's number 1 goaltender! and persoanly when and IF he dose becom Ottawa's #1 I dont think he will be in that postition for more that a season! with Emery Ottawa's prospect goaltender he will be ready for a job permanatly in the NHL within 2-3 seasons! But for Now Patrick Lalime is our #1 and he needs and DESERVES better Fan support than he has goton in the past couple months! These are harder times for Lalime than they are for the Jowe senators fan! He will get his game back and will becom ethe Patrick Lalime we all remember again! Iam with Patrick Lalime and the Seanots Organization WIN LOSE OR TIE! now if only all the sens fans could be that way we would have a better hockey club and a WAY better Golatender!


The Lalime I remember is the one who cost us the NJD series last year! I don't want the old Lalime back...I don't want any Lalime back :twisted:


DO U ACTUALLY BELIVE LALIME IS THE ONE WHO COST US THAT GAME! DO YOU! Patrick lalime is the only reason we made it as far as we did agains the NJD! Everyone on that team ESPECIALLY Lalime played geat! No one was to blame for that goal! NO ONE! Definatly not LALIME! BY Now  i remember that game and i remember REDDEN AND RACHUNEK l giving up the puck and giving the break away NOT LALIME! and i am still not blaming those two GREAT defencman! Patrick Lalime is a pheominal goalie and did not cost us that game in anyways shape or form!

By the way do yuo recal GAME 6 agains the Devils! It certanly wasn't our great offense that kept us in that game! and not the defence either! It was Lalime who faced over 40 shots in that game!


I wasn't even referring to game 7! I was reffering to games 3and4. The ones he let in 4 short sided goals from the top of the face off circle...remember? that series shouldn't have even gone 7 games.

BTW you should start from the beginning of this thread and read through the whole thing before you post anymore nonsense.
Title: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 04:26:24 PM
You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: kjs on March 08, 2004, 04:30:30 PM
Perhaps everybody on this thread needs to take a deep breath....

For better or (quite possibly) for worse, we are stuck with Lalime for this year's playoff run.  I for one don't know which Lalime is going to show up come April.  Of course it could be something like this year's regular-season goalie, with random strings of decent-to-solid and downright awful outings.  I hope not.

I think we should take comfort in the fact that we have what appears to be a very strong backup in Prusek.  I don't think we need to get too worked up about Jacques' goaltending decisions in the regular season.  The playoffs are a different ballgame.  JM's not dense; he's well aware (among other things) of the lynching that awaits him for blind "loyalty" to Lalime in the playoffs.  Muckler, Martin and everybody else know full well what's at stake this year, and what the expectations are.

(This doesn't mean that I'm totally thrilled about the division of labour so far.  Since the end of December I've been wishing that Prusek get more activity, above all to keep him on top of his game.  This does not require Lalime to give up the #1, if that's a concern for JM.  As many have pointed out, at this point letting Lalime start practically every game isn't doing wonders for his confidence, either.

But to those of you who basically want Prusek to take over entirely, I'd suggest that Lalime needs to stay in game shape, too.  We will almost certainly need him come playoff time.)

There's a pattern in this thread of people sniping from the sidelines when Patrick has a decent game (and of inconclusive over-analysis of every goal he lets in), followed by everybody going ballistic when he has one of his lousy games.  The tone is getting a little too apocalyptic.  Am I nervous?  Heck yeah.  Do the Sens have absolutely no hope of winning with Lalime and Prusek?  No way.

And, by the by, there are many more potential (internal) obstacles to a Stanley Cup for the Sens than just their goaltending situation.  The more rabid critics of Lalime in this thread often make it appear as if all the Sens need is a good goaltender and they'd have the SC all locked up.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: rose on March 08, 2004, 04:31:58 PM
Jenn#40_fan.....my comments about all the excuses/reasons why Lalime is scored on quoted by you I should have been more clear about.  It's the media folks who always seem to indicate that the goals are not Patrick's 'fault' but the result of a redirection, richochet, etc., etc. ad nauseam, ad infinitum.  I agree that many others blame Lalime all the time for every goal and I agree that is not the case.  I just find it quite amazing that so few of the goals Patrick allows are his responsibility. according to the media teams.  That's all.  

Hey!  Until this year, I was a very big Lalime fan.  And I have tried to hang on with positive thoughts for him for this season.  But honestly, the Philly game Friday clinched it for me.  I have thrown up my hands.  I think all on this site have their breaking points, unfortunately.  But I do admire those who are standing by him insofar as a positive attitude and I hope all of you/them (including Martin, Muckler, et al) prove me to be wrong.  I would like nothing more than for Lalime to successfully lead us into the playoffs all the way to the Cup.....I will line up to be first to eat my crow (preferably with a lovely white wine sauce :wink: ).
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Dagwood on March 08, 2004, 04:34:20 PM
We don't all hate Lalime. We call it constructive criticism.  :wink:

Actually what you are saying goes back to the positive energy that ArmChair and I were saying a couple of weeks ago.

I hope your right LalimeRules (LR) but when do you cut the cord and move on? Certainly not when it's to late I hope.

In poker.. You bet with the Hot Hand and you fold when it's not..same principle.

I admire you for your faith in Lalime
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 04:34:44 PM
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Let's say JM sticks to what he's been saying and 2 games into the first round, Lalime has been weak and we're down 2-0 in the series.  Do you think he'll have the guts to put Prusek in there and try to save a sinking ship or will he stick to his guns and live or die with Lalime?

I hope that he will have the guts to admit he was wrong...but I'm not so sure.


He hasn't so far this season....unless Muckler tells him to I expect JM to just keep doing the same old thing...start Lalime and lose :cry:


I couldn't DISAGREE MORE WITH WHAT YOU SAID! Yes, Patrick lalime has had a bad season and let in a few soft goals! BUT EVERY GOALIE HAS HAD A BAD SEASON! and this is lalime's FIRST! Patrick lalime has done so much for this organization in the past and NEVER oce got the respect or the fan support he deserved! Patrick Lalime is a hell of a good goaltender and will get his game back! JM is right to stick with Lalime; iam not saying Prusek is a bad goalie because he is great but his time has not come to be Ottawa's number 1 goaltender! and persoanly when and IF he dose becom Ottawa's #1 I dont think he will be in that postition for more that a season! with Emery Ottawa's prospect goaltender he will be ready for a job permanatly in the NHL within 2-3 seasons! But for Now Patrick Lalime is our #1 and he needs and DESERVES better Fan support than he has goton in the past couple months! These are harder times for Lalime than they are for the Jowe senators fan! He will get his game back and will becom ethe Patrick Lalime we all remember again! Iam with Patrick Lalime and the Seanots Organization WIN LOSE OR TIE! now if only all the sens fans could be that way we would have a better hockey club and a WAY better Golatender!


The Lalime I remember is the one who cost us the NJD series last year! I don't want the old Lalime back...I don't want any Lalime back :twisted:


DO U ACTUALLY BELIVE LALIME IS THE ONE WHO COST US THAT GAME! DO YOU! Patrick lalime is the only reason we made it as far as we did agains the NJD! Everyone on that team ESPECIALLY Lalime played geat! No one was to blame for that goal! NO ONE! Definatly not LALIME! BY Now  i remember that game and i remember REDDEN AND RACHUNEK l giving up the puck and giving the break away NOT LALIME! and i am still not blaming those two GREAT defencman! Patrick Lalime is a pheominal goalie and did not cost us that game in anyways shape or form!

By the way do yuo recal GAME 6 agains the Devils! It certanly wasn't our great offense that kept us in that game! and not the defence either! It was Lalime who faced over 40 shots in that game!


I wasn't even referring to game 7! I was reffering to games 3and4. The ones he let in 4 short sided goals from the top of the face off circle...remember? that series shouldn't have even gone 7 games.

BTW you should start from the beginning of this thread and read through the whole thing before you post anymore nonsense.


Well iam sorry for offending you! (which i obviosly did) But YOU never made any reference to game's 3 and 4! i asumed you were talking about game 7 because that was the BIG game! That was thhe all or nothing game! So next time you get all touchy over 1 of my replies please make sure YOU read over the NONSENS you wrot in the first place that iam replying too!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: rose
Jenn#40_fan.....my comments about all the excuses/reasons why Lalime is scored on quoted by you I should have been more clear about.  It's the media folks who always seem to indicate that the goals are not Patrick's 'fault' but the result of a redirection, richochet, etc., etc. ad nauseam, ad infinitum.  I agree that many others blame Lalime all the time for every goal and I agree that is not the case.  I just find it quite amazing that so few of the goals Patrick allows are his responsibility. according to the media teams.  That's all.  

Hey!  Until this year, I was a very big Lalime fan.  And I have tried to hang on with positive thoughts for him for this season.  But honestly, the Philly game Friday clinched it for me.  I have thrown up my hands.  I think all on this site have their breaking points, unfortunately.  But I do admire those who are standing by him insofar as a positive attitude and I hope all of you/them (including Martin, Muckler, et al) prove me to be wrong.  I would like nothing more than for Lalime to successfully lead us into the playoffs all the way to the Cup.....I will line up to be first to eat my crow (preferably with a lovely white wine sauce :wink: ).


Ahhh, ok then ;)

Admittedly I don't pay too much attention to the media so I'm not fully aware of thier stance on dear Patty.
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 04:44:01 PM
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You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:


LALIME IS A GREAT GOALIE AND HIS SHOWN IT IN THE PAST! Iam not saying he has ahad a good season by all means he has had a horrible season! iam just saying LETS TRY SOMTHING DIFFERENT! Put it into this perspective If Marian Hossa (qute arguably the best senator) if he had a horrible season and draged down the team! do we trade him? sure he had a bad season but he did score 45 goals last season! so do we trade him? simple YES OR NO! same thing with Lalime he has been great in the past but isn't great todate!
* Hossa has had a good season!
by the way we are not Lalime lovers we are Lalime supporters!
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 04:45:13 PM
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You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:


LALIME IS A GREAT GOALIE AND HIS SHOWN IT IN THE PAST! Iam not saying he has ahad a good season by all means he has had a horrible season! iam just saying LETS TRY SOMTHING DIFFERENT! Put it into this perspective If Marian Hossa (qute arguably the best senator) if he had a horrible season and draged down the team! do we trade him? sure he had a bad season but he did score 45 goals last season! so do we trade him? simple YES OR NO! same thing with Lalime he has been great in the past but isn't great todate!
* Hossa has had a good season!
by the way we are not Lalime lovers we are Lalime supporters!


Don't waste your time on Dallas like I said. He's not worth it.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 04:56:17 PM
Jen40...Was that warrented? Nice...classy!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 05:00:03 PM
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Jen40...Was that warrented? Nice...classy!


I think it was a perfect response considuring the situation! And by the way u never anwser my question! simple yes or No will do!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BingoSensFan on March 08, 2004, 05:08:19 PM
Patrick Lalime has never, never, never been a good goaltender.  I have no idea where this comes from.  He has, however, been arguably the luckiest goaltender in hockey history.  His ineptitude was covered up in Pittsburgh because they scored about 12 goals a game.  His ineptitude in Ottawa was covered up by a great defense and a great defensive system.  This year, the defense hasn't been as good as it can be and Lalime is being exposed for the below average goalie that he is.  Jacques Martin should be fired just for his decision to stick with Lalime.  It cannot be justified by any means.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 05:10:17 PM
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Jen40...Was that warrented? Nice...classy!


I think it was a perfect response considuring the situation! And by the way u never anwser my question! simple yes or No will do!


Sorry LR  I stopped reading your posts. No I would not trade Hossa...the difference is Hossa does have talent and lots of it and he has shown he has talent. Lalime has always sucked! He hid behind a powerfull defensive system for 2 years and still managed to take us out of the playoffs with 4 weak short sided goals last year! If you cared to read the thread you would have known I don't buy the argument that he was EVER a good goaltender. He rode the teams defensive systems coat tails and now he's being exposed for what a few of us expected for a long time "he sucks".
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Patrick Lalime has never, never, never been a good goaltender.  I have no idea where this comes from.  He has, however, been arguably the luckiest goaltender in hockey history.  His ineptitude was covered up in Pittsburgh because they scored about 12 goals a game.  His ineptitude in Ottawa was covered up by a great defense and a great defensive system.  This year, the defense hasn't been as good as it can be and Lalime is being exposed for the below average goalie that he is.  Jacques Martin should be fired just for his decision to stick with Lalime.  It cannot be justified by any means.


I totally agree..if JM continues to put Lalime in the net he should be fired!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Patrick Lalime has never, never, never been a good goaltender.  I have no idea where this comes from.  He has, however, been arguably the luckiest goaltender in hockey history.  His ineptitude was covered up in Pittsburgh because they scored about 12 goals a game.  His ineptitude in Ottawa was covered up by a great defense and a great defensive system.  This year, the defense hasn't been as good as it can be and Lalime is being exposed for the below average goalie that he is.  Jacques Martin should be fired just for his decision to stick with Lalime.  It cannot be justified by any means.


I totally agree..if JM continues to put Lalime in the net he should be fired!


I figured you would have been waaaay past giving Martin more time with this decision!

I would like to restate my position...inasmuch as I agree with those who do not want a trade but would like to see Prusek be given a chance to play 3 or 4 or 5 games in a row.  It's a win win at that point...either prusek shines or Lalime gets his number one position back and has more confidence that he is indeed the number one.  The team wins in the end...although one of Lalime or Prusek would finally be put in their proper place with no more doubts either way.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 05:28:03 PM
I agree. Let's just play Prusek for a few so we can end the bloody debate.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 05:29:45 PM
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 05:32:41 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


see that's where I completely disagree...there's just not much out there in terms of goaltending...AND we have a seemingly great backup and a franchise goaltender in the minors...all that leads me to believe that it simply is not worth giving up assets to get another goaltender.  Plus if the sens were to break the bank then I would prefer to spend the assets getting another star player like Pronger.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


Do you ever have anything of value to say...ever?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on March 08, 2004, 05:36:44 PM
I appologize for the Football analogies(Interzone in particular :wink: )


In Football, would you keep running with the same QB, if he tosses a couple interceptions each game? No, maybe not.

How about if he throws 1 or 2 interceptions a game that result in a touch down each time? My guess, he would have splinters the size of 2x4's.

Why should we allow #40 to let 1 or 2 weak goals a game and keep giving him the start?

I have long time ago, given up giving this guy the benefit of the doubt. He is a good backup (debatable).

Has anyone considered the fact that perhaps, he over-acheived the past two years?
Maybe this is THE PATRICK LALIME
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 05:46:16 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


Do you ever have anything of value to say...ever?


What sort of value do you bring to this debate? You are a supporter then you say he's not playing well 10 pages ago and now your a supporter again? make up your mind and let us know what you are today! :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 05:48:15 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
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We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


Do you ever have anything of value to say...ever?


What sort of value do you bring to this debate? You are a supporter then you say he's not playing well 10 pages ago and now your a supporter again? make up your mind and let us know what you are today! :roll:


You can be a supporter of a player but think he's playing poorly...take anyone who's ever been a Van Allen fan for example!   :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


see that's where I completely disagree...there's just not much out there in terms of goaltending...AND we have a seemingly great backup and a franchise goaltender in the minors...all that leads me to believe that it simply is not worth giving up assets to get another goaltender.  Plus if the sens were to break the bank then I would prefer to spend the assets getting another star player like Pronger.


I didn't say for another goaltender, I would like a prospect. Just get him out of the room so the players and staff can concentrate on getting the job done with Prusek and Emery. Just get him out of the room....please.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 05:53:16 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


see that's where I completely disagree...there's just not much out there in terms of goaltending...AND we have a seemingly great backup and a franchise goaltender in the minors...all that leads me to believe that it simply is not worth giving up assets to get another goaltender.  Plus if the sens were to break the bank then I would prefer to spend the assets getting another star player like Pronger.


I didn't say for another goaltender, I would like a prospect. Just get him out of the room so the players and staff can concentrate on getting the job done with Prusek and Emery. Just get him out of the room....please.


And you've just answered my question with a resounding NO!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


Do you ever have anything of value to say...ever?


What sort of value do you bring to this debate? You are a supporter then you say he's not playing well 10 pages ago and now your a supporter again? make up your mind and let us know what you are today! :roll:


You can be a supporter of a player but think he's playing poorly...take anyone who's ever been a Van Allen fan for example!   :lol:


Sorry I miss worded that statement. Jen40 says he's an elite goaltender then he is average then he's not playing well! What is it today Jen40. With all the contradicting info your spewing out I don't see the value in anything you write. At least I'm sticking to my beliefs....and guess what they're now the popular belief....funny, I guess I was right from the beginning last March!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


see that's where I completely disagree...there's just not much out there in terms of goaltending...AND we have a seemingly great backup and a franchise goaltender in the minors...all that leads me to believe that it simply is not worth giving up assets to get another goaltender.  Plus if the sens were to break the bank then I would prefer to spend the assets getting another star player like Pronger.


I didn't say for another goaltender, I would like a prospect. Just get him out of the room so the players and staff can concentrate on getting the job done with Prusek and Emery. Just get him out of the room....please.


I was for giving Emery a shot over Prusek earlier in the season ... but it's too late now!  AND what if Prusek folds like a cheap suit?  We wouldn't have any experience to go back to.  However...being that we have a future number one in Emery waiting to come up you could make a trade for Kolzig and Witt for say Lalime, Rachunek and a pick or something.  That might work if you think Kolzig is better.  Again - I'm not saying Kolzig is better - but assuming one does think he's better than Lalime that trade would make perfect sense.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 08, 2004, 05:57:31 PM
I think all the Lalime supporters (myself included) have admitted that he hasn't been playing the way he should be this year. Prusek has been the better goaltender this season  for Ottawa.

I'm not about to give up hope on Lalime JUST yet. However, I'm not really holding to many high expectations either that Lalime is going to get on some sort of a hot streak in nets- that is for now in the regular season- maybe he will get on a roll in the playoffs since he's experienced that in the past postseasons.

I think all the matters is now is the team to win as many games as possible. I don't care who's in nets anymore. That's all that matters.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 05:58:58 PM
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We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


Do you ever have anything of value to say...ever?


What sort of value do you bring to this debate? You are a supporter then you say he's not playing well 10 pages ago and now your a supporter again? make up your mind and let us know what you are today! :roll:


You can be a supporter of a player but think he's playing poorly...take anyone who's ever been a Van Allen fan for example!   :lol:


Sorry I miss worded that statement. Jen40 says he's an elite goaltender then he is average then he's not playing well! What is it today Jen40. With all the contradicting info your spewing out I don't see the value in anything you write. At least I'm sticking to my beliefs....and guess what they're now the popular belief....funny, I guess I was right from the beginning last March!


Well Hitler stayed true to his beliefs and sold people in Germany on them ... that doesn't make his beliefs right!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 06:00:30 PM
Quote from: sens_fan_6
I think all the Lalime supporters (myself included) have admitted that he hasn't been playing the way he should be this year. Prusek has been the better goaltender this season  for Ottawa.

I'm not about to give up hope on Lalime JUST yet. However, I'm not really holding to many high expectations either that Lalime is going to get on some sort of a hot streak in nets- that is for now in the regular season- maybe he will get on a roll in the playoffs since he's experienced that in the past postseasons.

I think all the matters is now is the team to win as many games as possible. I don't care who's in nets anymore. That's all that matters.


Your right, all that matters is that the team wins. I care who is in nets because it directly effects if the team has a chance to win or not.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


Do you ever have anything of value to say...ever?


What sort of value do you bring to this debate? You are a supporter then you say he's not playing well 10 pages ago and now your a supporter again? make up your mind and let us know what you are today! :roll:


You can be a supporter of a player but think he's playing poorly...take anyone who's ever been a Van Allen fan for example!   :lol:


Sorry I miss worded that statement. Jen40 says he's an elite goaltender then he is average then he's not playing well! What is it today Jen40. With all the contradicting info your spewing out I don't see the value in anything you write. At least I'm sticking to my beliefs....and guess what they're now the popular belief....funny, I guess I was right from the beginning last March!


One: I NEVER said he was elite, just that he has the potential based on the way he has played previously.

This year he has struggled, he has regressed, and has been decidedly average. This does not change the fact that he still has these capabilities because it's been seen. However, I'm also not holding out for the fact that he returns to his form from last year. Solid is what I ask for. Since the all star break apart from Philly he has been solid. That being said I still think he CAN be amazing, whether he WILL be is the question. Come on, we've stated all sorts of facts and statistics, to deny that he's never played well or never will is assanine.

All you've ever proved is how much you hate him. This year has been unfortunate, and you have been lucky.

If he really was as bad as you say he is, why did no one agree with you before this year? Are we all stupid? No. The truth is he's had a tough year, and with what is at stake we can't afford any slip ups.

I've never contradicted myself. Oops...look who's the fool now.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 06:02:27 PM
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


Do you ever have anything of value to say...ever?


What sort of value do you bring to this debate? You are a supporter then you say he's not playing well 10 pages ago and now your a supporter again? make up your mind and let us know what you are today! :roll:


You can be a supporter of a player but think he's playing poorly...take anyone who's ever been a Van Allen fan for example!   :lol:


Sorry I miss worded that statement. Jen40 says he's an elite goaltender then he is average then he's not playing well! What is it today Jen40. With all the contradicting info your spewing out I don't see the value in anything you write. At least I'm sticking to my beliefs....and guess what they're now the popular belief....funny, I guess I was right from the beginning last March!


Well Hitler stayed true to his beliefs and sold people in Germany on them ... that doesn't make his beliefs right!


ya I guess so. What does that have to do with Hockey? and Lalime? I didn't sell it to anyone, LALIME DID!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 06:08:05 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: TrentBlue
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
We should just end the debate by trading Lalime.


Do you ever have anything of value to say...ever?


What sort of value do you bring to this debate? You are a supporter then you say he's not playing well 10 pages ago and now your a supporter again? make up your mind and let us know what you are today! :roll:


You can be a supporter of a player but think he's playing poorly...take anyone who's ever been a Van Allen fan for example!   :lol:


Sorry I miss worded that statement. Jen40 says he's an elite goaltender then he is average then he's not playing well! What is it today Jen40. With all the contradicting info your spewing out I don't see the value in anything you write. At least I'm sticking to my beliefs....and guess what they're now the popular belief....funny, I guess I was right from the beginning last March!


Well Hitler stayed true to his beliefs and sold people in Germany on them ... that doesn't make his beliefs right!


ya I guess so. What does that have to do with Hockey? and Lalime? I didn't sell it to anyone, LALIME DID!


Well selling it doesn't have to do with my points...just that sticking or not sticking with ones initial beliefs is nothing to be praised and if Jenn happens to be acknowledging that Lalime has struggled why would you make fun of her for being conflicted when her fav. player is having difficulties.  Give her credit for being open to that.  I might not be so willing if Bonk went in the tank...but that would never happen thankfully!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Ok....Now that all your brains have thawed out  :lol:  Your coming around to what I was saying in the first place.  :roll:

AVERAGE and soon to be Elite!


He's NOT average!!! I feel like a broken record lol!  :lol: He's excellent soon to be elite, not average.

Average is Jeff Hacket and the like....as already mentioned.


Ya your exact words were excellent :lol:  How far from the truth has that been...ha,ha,ha, I guess your crystal ball is cloudy. Ha looks like your the fool now :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 06:09:18 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Ok....Now that all your brains have thawed out  :lol:  Your coming around to what I was saying in the first place.  :roll:

AVERAGE and soon to be Elite!


He's NOT average!!! I feel like a broken record lol!  :lol: He's excellent soon to be elite, not average.

Average is Jeff Hacket and the like....as already mentioned.


Ya your exact words were excellent :lol:  How far from the truth has that been...ha,ha,ha, I guess your crystal ball is cloudy. Ha looks like your the fool now :lol:


You're an ass. Plain and simple.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 06:11:09 PM
Oh, and he is excellent. He's been average this year.

How hard is it to comprehend?

And thanks Trent for saying that. At least some here are open minded and don't have their heads stuck so far up their arse they don't know whether they are coming or going.
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 06:11:42 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: LalimeRules
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:


LALIME IS A GREAT GOALIE AND HIS SHOWN IT IN THE PAST! Iam not saying he has ahad a good season by all means he has had a horrible season! iam just saying LETS TRY SOMTHING DIFFERENT! Put it into this perspective If Marian Hossa (qute arguably the best senator) if he had a horrible season and draged down the team! do we trade him? sure he had a bad season but he did score 45 goals last season! so do we trade him? simple YES OR NO! same thing with Lalime he has been great in the past but isn't great todate!
* Hossa has had a good season!
by the way we are not Lalime lovers we are Lalime supporters!


Don't waste your time on Dallas like I said. He's not worth it.


This is the reson I even said anything to Jen40! and a few other comments recently.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 08, 2004, 06:13:49 PM
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Oh, and he is excellent. He's been average this year.

How hard is it to comprehend?

And thanks Trent for saying that. At least some here are open minded and don't have their heads stuck so far up their arse they don't know whether they are coming or going.


I've had enough of your bullshit! were here to dicuss hockey and we have differing opinions! If Llaime is playing well your fine, if he sucks you attack people becuase you have nothing to come to this sieves defence! You heads up your ass!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 06:15:09 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Oh, and he is excellent. He's been average this year.

How hard is it to comprehend?

And thanks Trent for saying that. At least some here are open minded and don't have their heads stuck so far up their arse they don't know whether they are coming or going.


I've had enough of your bullshit! were here to dicuss hockey and we have differing opinions! If Llaime is playing well your fine, if he sucks you attack people becuase you have nothing to come to this sieves defence! You heads up your ass!


This is my last post to you:

I have not attacked people because Lalime sucks. I have attacked YOU because you act like a complete and utter jerk.
Title: Agree to Disagree!
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 06:39:08 PM
You know what how about we agree to disagree! Myself, Jen40 and all th the other all think Lalime is a great Goalie in which he is! whiole Dallas and his supporters don't belive Lalime is the goalie he used to be! Hopefull Lalime will get better and improve! I myself will always fell the same way about lalime because he has shown us (me atleast) what he can do in the playoffs and the regular season! and quite frankly his amazing golatender! I do belive Lalime will get his game back in the playoffs and whether Dalls or anyone else disagrees with me! well thats their own opinion in which they canhave! I am a firm beliver in Lalime and I PERSONALY belive that if Ottawa fans chee him on more instead of mock him then he will get better! He showed that he will stand up for his team on Friday (as did almost EVERY player) and iam proud of him and all the players for doing that! They really sent a message to other NHL tf BS or not i really dont care i have my opinion u have urs!
GO LALIME GO!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'
Title: Re: Agree to Disagree!
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what how about we agree to disagree! Myself, Jen40 and all th the other all think Lalime is a great Goalie in which he is! whiole Dallas and his supporters don't belive Lalime is the goalie he used to be! Hopefull Lalime will get better and improve! I myself will always fell the same way about lalime because he has shown us (me atleast) what he can do in the playoffs and the regular season! and quite frankly his amazing golatender! I do belive Lalime will get his game back in the playoffs and whether Dalls or anyone else disagrees with me! well thats their own opinion in which they canhave! I am a firm beliver in Lalime and I PERSONALY belive that if Ottawa fans chee him on more instead of mock him then he will get better! He showed that he will stand up for his team on Friday (as did almost EVERY player) and iam proud of him and all the players for doing that! They really sent a message to other NHL tf BS or not i really dont care i have my opinion u have urs!
GO LALIME GO!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


I gotta love your optimism!!

In case anyone is interested, there'a a great article by Ian Mendes on Lalime over at sportsnet.ca. It definitely lifted my spirits. :)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: jubejubed on March 08, 2004, 06:45:41 PM
Ian's Article (http://wwww.sportsnet.ca/hockey/columnist.jsp?content=20040307_115951_5176)

Good article, thanks Jenn.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Jenn_#11fan on March 08, 2004, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: jubejubed
Ian's Article (http://wwww.sportsnet.ca/hockey/columnist.jsp?content=20040307_115951_5176)

Good article, thanks Jenn.


And thankyou for linking it :D
Title: Thank You Jenn
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 06:47:39 PM
Why thank you Jenn and i love how mcuh of a die hard Lalime fan you are!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 08, 2004, 06:57:59 PM
That was an awesome article and I can always appreciate a good Superman reference.*


Quote
Regular season performances don't necessarily translate into post-season success. It's a theme that is repeated every year in the NHL, yet nobody seems to pick up on it. Just because you play like Clark Kent in the regular season, doesn't mean you can't be Superman in the playoffs.





*(for more information please see the tv shows thread...however, for the record Batman would still kick superman's @ss!)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Hayzed1 on March 08, 2004, 07:06:48 PM
Let me tell EVERYONE something about Lalime.

1.  No one hated him last year, when he put together an unbelievable string of playoff starts.  OR the year before that, for that matter.

2.  Patrick Lalime was an ALL-STAR goaltender last year, and his play reflected that.  He was also considered, in popular opinion, to be among the leagues elite players.

3.  Most importantly, die hard Sens fans.  Patrick Lalime is OUR go to guy in the playoffs, and will be guarding our twine come the opening round, win or lose.  It's very hard to pick up your confidence when everyone is bashing you, so it's time we all came to terms with this fact, and SUPPORT OUR MAN.  His playoff stats don't lie.

I think our boy will be ready to ROCK AND ROLL come playoff time!!

Here's To LALIME regaining TOP FORM for us, and bringing home the silver.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on March 08, 2004, 07:08:53 PM
Quote from: Hayzed1
Let me tell EVERYONE something about Lalime.

1.  No one hated him last year, when he put together an unbelievable string of playoff starts.  OR the year before that, for that matter.

2.  Patrick Lalime was an ALL-STAR goaltender last year, and his play reflected that.  He was also considered, in popular opinion, to be among the leagues elite players.

3.  Most importantly, die hard Sens fans.  Patrick Lalime is OUR go to guy in the playoffs, and will be guarding our twine come the opening round, win or lose.  It's very hard to pick up your confidence when everyone is bashing you, so it's time we all came to terms with this fact, and SUPPORT OUR MAN.  His playoff stats don't lie.

I think our boy will be ready to ROCK AND ROLL come playoff time!!

Here's To LALIME regaining TOP FORM for us, and bringing home the silver.


yah heres to it... :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 07:37:13 PM
Those of you cheering for the Caps to score on Lalime should be ashamed of yourselfs.  :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 07:43:07 PM
LalimeRules- Jenn and Lalime40 have been attempting to convince us for months that he's a good goaltender, and they haven't been successful. What chance do you have?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 08, 2004, 08:49:22 PM
Quote
1. No one hated him last year, when he put together an unbelievable string of playoff starts.


Yes, the number of goals he let in on the first two shots in playoff games was unbelievable.  

He wasn't exactly tearing it up going into the playoffs last year and he played ok in them, not more.  The Flyer series was his best.  

I've supported him and give him credit when does well or ok, but it is getting late in the season and he is still making fundamental errors.  

I would totally enjoy it if Lalime totally proves me wrong if he plays in the playoffs.   In fact, if the Sens win the Stanley Cup with Lalime in net I will write a nice 300 word or longer essay on his eliteness.  No bet, no downside for anyone.  I would love for him to show us all up.
Title: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 09:31:38 PM
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!
Title: Re: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: armchaircoach on March 08, 2004, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!
:?:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SENSfreak_03 on March 08, 2004, 09:35:30 PM
i have no comments on this game. nothing spectacular (some above average saves), rebound control was a little sketchy, but got away with it since the caps had no offence all nite.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 09:35:52 PM
He sucked tonight, didn't he?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SENSfreak_03 on March 08, 2004, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: SzuperChicky
He sucked tonight, didn't he?


horribly, its his fault we lost....oh wait...sorry force of habit :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 08, 2004, 09:37:58 PM
Not tested a whole lot, but was solid when expected to be.
Title: Good Goalie
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
LalimeRules- Jenn and Lalime40 have been attempting to convince us for months that he's a good goaltender, and they haven't been successful. What chance do you have?


No no no! he havn't been trying to convince you that Lalime is a good goaltender! because he ISn'T! HE IS A GREAT GOALTENDER! Frankly no one cares waht u thinks the fact ramins Laliime is a gret goalie and we were never trying to CONVINCE you that we were merly telling you  the fact!
Title: Re: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: brucegarrioch on March 08, 2004, 09:38:27 PM
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: LalimeRules
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!
:?:


Agreed. Smiling always leads to quality goaltending. It's a well known fact. If Lalime smiles, we're due for a win, if he pouts, we're in doubt.
Title: Re: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!


So he's getting his confidence back because he was smiling? Interesting.

BTW, the Sens played the Washington Capitals tonight. Just though I'd let you know.  :)
Title: Re: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: LalimeRules
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!


So he's getting his confidence back because he was smiling? Interesting.

BTW, the Sens played the Washington Capitals tonight. Just though I'd let you know.  :)


So...he sucked?
Title: Re: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 08, 2004, 09:42:53 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: LalimeRules
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!


So he's getting his confidence back because he was smiling? Interesting.

BTW, the Sens played the Washington Capitals tonight. Just though I'd let you know.  :)


I saw a smile on his face though during the second period. :wink:  :lol:
Title: Re: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 09:43:56 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: LalimeRules
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!
:?:


Agreed. Smiling always leads to quality goaltending. It's a well known fact. If Lalime smiles, we're due for a win, if he pouts, we're in doubt.


i never said because of his smiling we would win! I said it shows somwhat confidence! but i emphasized more on the fact that he was coming out of the net more!
Title: Re: Good Goalie
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 09:45:37 PM
Quote from: LalimeRules
Quote from: Docawesome
LalimeRules- Jenn and Lalime40 have been attempting to convince us for months that he's a good goaltender, and they haven't been successful. What chance do you have?


No no no! he havn't been trying to convince you that Lalime is a good goaltender! because he ISn'T! HE IS A GREAT GOALTENDER! Frankly no one cares waht u thinks the fact ramins Laliime is a gret goalie and we were never trying to CONVINCE you that we were merly telling you  the fact!


Ooooooh okay. So Lalime is GREAT. Super.  

BTW, checklist: Spelling course.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on March 08, 2004, 09:45:46 PM
Lalime coming out of the net is a sure sign of mass destruction. He handles the puck like a live gernade.

He should stick to the blue paint, and the blue paint only.
Title: Re: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 09:46:10 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: LalimeRules
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!
:?:


Agreed. Smiling always leads to quality goaltending. It's a well known fact. If Lalime smiles, we're due for a win, if he pouts, we're in doubt.


LOL!  :lol:

Yup its all about the  :)
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: Lalime40 on March 08, 2004, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:


no the biggest load of crap was when you guaranteed he wouldn't be number #1 by March. LMFAO. It's march buddy.
Title: Re: Good Game From Patrick!
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 09:49:20 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: LalimeRules
Though not seeing too many shots Patrick lalime played a very good dame! I think he is starting to get his confidence back! You could see him  comin out of the net a bit more and smiling whcicch kind of shows more confidence! well maybe not so much the smiling!


So he's getting his confidence back because he was smiling? Interesting.

BTW, the Sens played the Washington Capitals tonight. Just though I'd let you know.  :)


BTW, the sens and NO NHL team can write off a team as a gauranteed win! I do belive the Pitsburg Penguins have beaten a couple of the NHL's elite teams including Ottawa, Philly, Detroit, and the NJD!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 09:51:01 PM
Hmmm, 14 whole shots tonight eh.
I guess the one that got through was the bluelines fault?
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 09:51:50 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:


no the biggest load of crap was when you guaranteed he wouldn't be number #1 by March. LMFAO. It's march buddy.


Yes it is. And stats indicate that he is no longer the #1 agoaltender anymore despite what Jacques is doing which many do not like. Lalime lost the number one job a long time ago, however, the coach has been loyal to him. Thats is unfortunate.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 08, 2004, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Jen40...Was that warrented? Nice...classy!


definatly.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on March 08, 2004, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Hmmm, 14 whole shots tonight eh.
I guess the one that got through was the bluelines fault?


He frowned.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: sens_fan_6 on March 08, 2004, 09:52:13 PM
All that matters is that the team won, and Lalime was solid when necessary.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote from: Senturion
Hmmm, 14 whole shots tonight eh.
I guess the one that got through was the bluelines fault?


He frowned.


 :lol:

I hope it wasn't at any of our defensemen, 'cause you know, if it was...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 08, 2004, 09:59:16 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Jenn#40_fan
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Ok....Now that all your brains have thawed out  :lol:  Your coming around to what I was saying in the first place.  :roll:

AVERAGE and soon to be Elite!


He's NOT average!!! I feel like a broken record lol!  :lol: He's excellent soon to be elite, not average.

Average is Jeff Hacket and the like....as already mentioned.


Ya your exact words were excellent :lol:  How far from the truth has that been...ha,ha,ha, I guess your crystal ball is cloudy. Ha looks like your the fool now :lol:


grasping Dallas, your grasping. give it up already.
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: Lalime40 on March 08, 2004, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:


no the biggest load of crap was when you guaranteed he wouldn't be number #1 by March. LMFAO. It's march buddy.


Yes it is. And stats indicate that he is no longer the #1 agoaltender anymore despite what Jacques which mant do not like. Lalime lost the number one job a long time ago, however, the coach has been loyal to him. Thats is unfortunate.



I'm afraid your wrong. He's number #1. Stat or no Stats. He's number 1. what part don't you inderstand?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Dagwood on March 08, 2004, 10:10:14 PM
LR Watch back on :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: LalimeRules on March 08, 2004, 10:11:13 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
LR Watch back on :roll:
:?:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: brucegarrioch on March 08, 2004, 10:13:31 PM
Quote

Ya know, I used to thrive on people like this back in my Cthulu days on the ol 'official' boards, but out of respect for the fine fans here, I'll not sink to those depths again.


You're Cthulu?

I think you and I debated [heated mind you] when there was the official board vs. Sensnetwork board feud.

I recall Phantom saying something about Kevin Lowe being proud of you.  :wink:
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:


no the biggest load of crap was when you guaranteed he wouldn't be number #1 by March. LMFAO. It's march buddy.


Yes it is. And stats indicate that he is no longer the #1 agoaltender anymore despite what Jacques which mant do not like. Lalime lost the number one job a long time ago, however, the coach has been loyal to him. Thats is unfortunate.



I'm afraid your wrong. He's number #1. Stat or no Stats. He's number 1. what part don't you inderstand?


I'm afraid you do not seem to understand what I or Dallas have been attempting to communicate to you for a while now. Stats wise, Lalime is no longer the #1 goaltender for this team. Prusek has been better as his numbers indicate. He qualifies as the number 1 goaltender robbing Lalime of his job. However, Jacques seems to be blindly loyal to Lalime. IMO, that is unfortunate.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote

Ya know, I used to thrive on people like this back in my Cthulu days on the ol 'official' boards, but out of respect for the fine fans here, I'll not sink to those depths again.


You're Cthulu?

I think you and I debated [heated mind you] when there was the official board vs. Sensnetwork board feud.

I recall Phantom saying something about Kevin Lowe being proud of you.  :wink:


Who's Cthulu??
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:19:45 PM
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote

Ya know, I used to thrive on people like this back in my Cthulu days on the ol 'official' boards, but out of respect for the fine fans here, I'll not sink to those depths again.


You're Cthulu?

I think you and I debated [heated mind you] when there was the official board vs. Sensnetwork board feud.

I recall Phantom saying something about Kevin Lowe being proud of you.  :wink:


*sigh

Yes, yes I was, and I have left my dark days of trolling and slandering behind.
When the old boards went down, it was like my 'supply' had been severed, and the only recourse was to come here and slowly relearn the meaning of 'fan'.
I think I had heated debates with just about everyone, about anything, especially the Leaf trolls.
I did try to keep good topics at the top of those forums though, but man, it just got too retarded towards the end.

I've grown to like the witty banter on this forum though, and when someone comes across with vulgar language and insults towards ANY fan, its like a desecration of a holy place, if you know what I mean.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote

Ya know, I used to thrive on people like this back in my Cthulu days on the ol 'official' boards, but out of respect for the fine fans here, I'll not sink to those depths again.


You're Cthulu?

I think you and I debated [heated mind you] when there was the official board vs. Sensnetwork board feud.

I recall Phantom saying something about Kevin Lowe being proud of you.  :wink:


Who's Cthulu??


Are you kidding?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote

Ya know, I used to thrive on people like this back in my Cthulu days on the ol 'official' boards, but out of respect for the fine fans here, I'll not sink to those depths again.


You're Cthulu?

I think you and I debated [heated mind you] when there was the official board vs. Sensnetwork board feud.

I recall Phantom saying something about Kevin Lowe being proud of you.  :wink:


*sigh

Yes, yes I was, and I have left my dark days of trolling and slandering behind.
When the old boards went down, it was like my 'supply' had been severed, and the only recourse was to come here and slowly relearn the meaning of 'fan'.
I think I had heated debates with just about everyone, about anything, especially the Leaf trolls.
I did try to keep good topics at the top of those forums though, but man, it just got too retarded towards the end.

I've grown to like the witty banter on this forum though, and when someone comes across with vulgar language and insults towards ANY fan, its like a desecration of a holy place, if you know what I mean.


Hey thanks for taking my back. And I remember you from the official forum.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DocHollywood on March 08, 2004, 10:22:22 PM
Doc, I understand what you are saying about Prusek but I don't agree with putting him in the Playoffs. Prusek doesn't have the experience and maybe not even the confidence to start the playoffs. Lalime has proven himself in the Playoffs and everyone knows the Playoffs is totally different hockey. I don't know if we should risk making a change with making Prusek #1. It can go both ways and I don't think this year is the best time to do this. Lockout on the horizon and most of our players are in their or reaching their Prime. If Prusek starts the Playoffs and gets smoked then everyone is asking why did Lalime not play? And Vice Versa.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:25:50 PM
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if some of you more classy fans don't recall me, as I think quite a few had me on ignore.
All I would do is go toe to toe with the trolls, rather than spend any time talking shop with the rest.
A little late in coming, but I do apologize to any I may have offended over the past few years, especially any fellow Sens fans.
I just couldn't back down when someone came a slandering our boys.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: brucegarrioch
Quote

Ya know, I used to thrive on people like this back in my Cthulu days on the ol 'official' boards, but out of respect for the fine fans here, I'll not sink to those depths again.


You're Cthulu?

I think you and I debated [heated mind you] when there was the official board vs. Sensnetwork board feud.

I recall Phantom saying something about Kevin Lowe being proud of you.  :wink:


Who's Cthulu??


Are you kidding?


It's a little hard when people quote without using names!  :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:26:58 PM
Quote from: DocHollywood
Doc, I understand what you are saying about Prusek but I don't agree with putting him in the Playoffs. Prusek doesn't have the experience and maybe not even the confidence to start the playoffs. Lalime has proven himself in the Playoffs and everyone knows the Playoffs is totally different hockey. I don't know if we should risk making a change with making Prusek #1. It can go both ways and I don't think this year is the best time to do this. Lockout on the horizon and most of our players are in their or reaching their Prime. If Prusek starts the Playoffs and gets smoked then everyone is asking why did Lalime not play? And Vice Versa.


Only one way to get playoff xp, right?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 10:28:23 PM
Senturion, I don't recall any trolling from you.
I know you often got in debates with Sensless, etc.  But we all have.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Dagwood on March 08, 2004, 10:30:30 PM
Quote from: DocHollywood
Doc, I understand what you are saying about Prusek but I don't agree with putting him in the Playoffs. Prusek doesn't have the experience and maybe not even the confidence to start the playoffs. Lalime has proven himself in the Playoffs and everyone knows the Playoffs is totally different hockey. I don't know if we should risk making a change with making Prusek #1. It can go both ways and I don't think this year is the best time to do this. Lockout on the horizon and most of our players are in their or reaching their Prime. If Prusek starts the Playoffs and gets smoked then everyone is asking why did Lalime not play? And Vice Versa.


This is what I don't understand.  How does Prusek get playoff experience if he never plays.  There is no guarantee that any playoff tested goalie will do any better.  All teams can go on is whether or not a goaltender is hot or not.  If Lalime is hot, great play him, but when he shows obvious signs of struggling, pull him and put Prusek in.  As well, when a goaltender is hot...keep him going to see how many games he can string together.  

The problem with this team is that JM does not go by either method.  JM has a plan, that plan has circles drawn on a calendar that he made up last summer as to when Lalime plays or Prusek... and he sticks to it.   It is simply baffling to me.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:30:54 PM
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Senturion, I don't recall any trolling from you.
I know you often got in debates with Sensless, etc.  But we all have.


Oh NOOOO,  :shock: *twitch *twitch :shock:

I remember it all now!

*twitch  *twitch

WHY did you have to say its name, WHHHHHYYYYY???

I had actually forgotten that ones name, until now.

Man, what a flashback I just had.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 10:31:41 PM
Quote from: DocHollywood
Doc, I understand what you are saying about Prusek but I don't agree with putting him in the Playoffs. Prusek doesn't have the experience and maybe not even the confidence to start the playoffs. Lalime has proven himself in the Playoffs and everyone knows the Playoffs is totally different hockey. I don't know if we should risk making a change with making Prusek #1. It can go both ways and I don't think this year is the best time to do this. Lockout on the horizon and most of our players are in their or reaching their Prime. If Prusek starts the Playoffs and gets smoked then everyone is asking why did Lalime not play? And Vice Versa.


Doc, I understand what you're saying too. Its a tough situation. People keep saying that Jacques should give Prusek the ball and let him run with it, and go from there. If he gets hot, then why not try him in the playoffs. If not, well Lalime --rested and hungry-- gets back on the horse and hopefully just hopefully he holds on tight enough.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Dagwood
Quote from: DocHollywood
Doc, I understand what you are saying about Prusek but I don't agree with putting him in the Playoffs. Prusek doesn't have the experience and maybe not even the confidence to start the playoffs. Lalime has proven himself in the Playoffs and everyone knows the Playoffs is totally different hockey. I don't know if we should risk making a change with making Prusek #1. It can go both ways and I don't think this year is the best time to do this. Lockout on the horizon and most of our players are in their or reaching their Prime. If Prusek starts the Playoffs and gets smoked then everyone is asking why did Lalime not play? And Vice Versa.


This is what I don't understand.  How does Prusek get playoff experience if he never plays.  There is no guarantee that any playoff tested goalie will do any better.  All teams can go on is whether or not a goaltender is hot or not.  If Lalime is hot, great play him, but when he shows obvious signs of struggling, pull him and put Prusek in.  As well, when a goaltender is hot...keep him going to see how many games he can string together.  

The problem with this team is that JM does not go by either method.  JM has a plan, that plan has circles drawn on a calendar that he made up last summer as to when Lalime plays or Prusek... and he sticks to it.   It is simply baffling to me.


If not a calendar, then on a paper napkin, which I think he lost both, and is now lost himself.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DocHollywood on March 08, 2004, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: DocHollywood
Doc, I understand what you are saying about Prusek but I don't agree with putting him in the Playoffs. Prusek doesn't have the experience and maybe not even the confidence to start the playoffs. Lalime has proven himself in the Playoffs and everyone knows the Playoffs is totally different hockey. I don't know if we should risk making a change with making Prusek #1. It can go both ways and I don't think this year is the best time to do this. Lockout on the horizon and most of our players are in their or reaching their Prime. If Prusek starts the Playoffs and gets smoked then everyone is asking why did Lalime not play? And Vice Versa.


Only one way to get playoff xp, right?


Yes, but is the year to do it? I am torn both ways and I don't know what to do. Risk one of our best chances to win the Cup this year ( We have the Team to Do It) and leave it on the shoulders of an unproven goaltender? Or go with a proven goaltender and hope he's alright come playoffs? Lockout is coming and who knows how long we will be without hockey. The time is now. Lalime has been stellar in the Playoffs. Do we wait and see? I don't know.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Senturion, I don't recall any trolling from you.
I know you often got in debates with Sensless, etc.  But we all have.


Oh NOOOO,  :shock: *twitch *twitch :shock:

I remember it all now!

*twitch  *twitch

WHY did you have to say its name, WHHHHHYYYYY???

I had actually forgotten that ones name, until now.

Man, what a flashback I just had.


He actually attempted to come to this forum.  I think a few of the others as well.   :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:34:26 PM
Quote from: DocHollywood
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: DocHollywood
Doc, I understand what you are saying about Prusek but I don't agree with putting him in the Playoffs. Prusek doesn't have the experience and maybe not even the confidence to start the playoffs. Lalime has proven himself in the Playoffs and everyone knows the Playoffs is totally different hockey. I don't know if we should risk making a change with making Prusek #1. It can go both ways and I don't think this year is the best time to do this. Lockout on the horizon and most of our players are in their or reaching their Prime. If Prusek starts the Playoffs and gets smoked then everyone is asking why did Lalime not play? And Vice Versa.


Only one way to get playoff xp, right?


Yes, but is the year to do it? I am torn both ways and I don't know what to do. Risk one of our best chances to win the Cup this year ( We have the Team to Do It) and leave it on the shoulders of an unproven goaltender? Or go with a proven goaltender and hope he's alright come playoffs? Lockout is coming and who knows how long we will be without hockey. The time is now. Lalime has been stellar in the Playoffs. Do we wait and see? I don't know.


I think we just need to make JM cycle them, thats all.
If one starts to flail, actually pull them out and put the other in, and I mean do it when the time is right, not after 4-5 goals when all is lost.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Senturion, I don't recall any trolling from you.
I know you often got in debates with Sensless, etc.  But we all have.


Oh NOOOO,  :shock: *twitch *twitch :shock:

I remember it all now!

*twitch  *twitch

WHY did you have to say its name, WHHHHHYYYYY???

I had actually forgotten that ones name, until now.


Man, what a flashback I just had.


He actually attempted to come to this forum.  I think a few of the others as well.   :roll:


Was it a he?
I seriously thought he was a she.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DocHollywood on March 08, 2004, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: DocHollywood
Doc, I understand what you are saying about Prusek but I don't agree with putting him in the Playoffs. Prusek doesn't have the experience and maybe not even the confidence to start the playoffs. Lalime has proven himself in the Playoffs and everyone knows the Playoffs is totally different hockey. I don't know if we should risk making a change with making Prusek #1. It can go both ways and I don't think this year is the best time to do this. Lockout on the horizon and most of our players are in their or reaching their Prime. If Prusek starts the Playoffs and gets smoked then everyone is asking why did Lalime not play? And Vice Versa.


Doc, I understand what you're saying too. Its a tough situation. People keep saying that Jacques should give Prusek the ball and let him run with, and go from there. If he gets hot, then why not try him in the playoffs. If not, well Lalime --rested and hungry-- gets back on the horse and hopefully just hopefully he holds on tight enough.


Good point, this is a screwd up and tough decision. I am glad I am not the coach cause I would not know what to do right now.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 10:36:45 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Senturion, I don't recall any trolling from you.
I know you often got in debates with Sensless, etc.  But we all have.


Oh NOOOO,  :shock: *twitch *twitch :shock:

I remember it all now!

*twitch  *twitch

WHY did you have to say its name, WHHHHHYYYYY???

I had actually forgotten that ones name, until now.


Man, what a flashback I just had.


He actually attempted to come to this forum.  I think a few of the others as well.   :roll:


Was it a he?
I seriously thought he was a she.


I'm pretty sure it was a guy.  :?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:41:42 PM
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Senturion, I don't recall any trolling from you.
I know you often got in debates with Sensless, etc.  But we all have.


Oh NOOOO,  :shock: *twitch *twitch :shock:

I remember it all now!

*twitch  *twitch

WHY did you have to say its name, WHHHHHYYYYY???

I had actually forgotten that ones name, until now.


Man, what a flashback I just had.


He actually attempted to come to this forum.  I think a few of the others as well.   :roll:


Was it a he?
I seriously thought he was a she.


I'm pretty sure it was a guy.  :?


Ah well, it matters not which gender that particular troll was.
All that matters is that we have a place, no, a sanctuary where we can actually talk shop rather than fling mud all about.

I actually tried to start a Sens trivia thread, and it was starting to go somewhere, but then got drowned in the flood of useless threads which ended up killing the forum in the end.

Is there a trivia thread here that I might have missed?
Been reading some pretty interesting stuff on the Sens of old, and would love to throw some tidbits out there for people to see.

I really didn't mean to use this thread for this either, just so you all know.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 10:41:50 PM
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Senturion, I don't recall any trolling from you.
I know you often got in debates with Sensless, etc.  But we all have.


Oh NOOOO,  :shock: *twitch *twitch :shock:

I remember it all now!

*twitch  *twitch

WHY did you have to say its name, WHHHHHYYYYY???

I had actually forgotten that ones name, until now.


Man, what a flashback I just had.


He actually attempted to come to this forum.  I think a few of the others as well.   :roll:


Was it a he?
I seriously thought he was a she.


I'm pretty sure it was a guy.  :?


And you are a....?

:mrgreen:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 08, 2004, 10:46:55 PM
I got curious about success vs. shot count in recent games.

From the start of December Lalime has 23 games.

In 16 games with 20+ shots, Patty has 6 wins, 8 losses, 2 ties.
In 7 games with less than twenty shots, he is 5 wins, 1 loss, 1 tie.  

So his record is under .500 when there are more than twenty shots on goal.   Ottawa also has the 2nd lowest shots on goal in the league with 24.5.  When he starts to put together a better record in games where the goalie is more of a factor, disillousoned fans will get behind him once again.  

By comparision, since the start of December, Prusek has 10 games.

In 8 games with 20+ shots, Prusek has 7 wins, 1 losses.
In 2 games with less than twenty shots, he has 1 win and 1 tie.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 08, 2004, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: OS
I got curious about success vs. shot count in recent games.

From the start of December Lalime has 23 games.

In 16 games with 20+ shots, Patty has 6 wins, 8 losses, 2 ties.
In 7 games with less than twenty shots, he is 5 wins, 1 loss, 1 tie.  

So his record is under .500 when there are more than twenty shots on goal.   Ottawa also has the 2nd lowest shots on goal in the league with 24.5.  When he starts to put together a better record in games where the goalie is more of a factor, disillousoned fans will get behind him once again.  

By comparision, since the start of December, Prusek has 10 games.

In 8 games with 20+ shots, Prusek has 7 wins, 1 losses.
In 2 games with less than twenty shots, he has 1 win and 1 tie.


Now there's an eye opener.
Wow.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 08, 2004, 10:55:05 PM
Quote from: OS
I got curious about success vs. shot count in recent games.

From the start of December Lalime has 23 games.

In 16 games with 20+ shots, Patty has 6 wins, 8 losses, 2 ties.
In 7 games with less than twenty shots, he is 5 wins, 1 loss, 1 tie.  

So his record is under .500 when there are more than twenty shots on goal.   Ottawa also has the 2nd lowest shots on goal in the league with 24.5.  When he starts to put together a better record in games where the goalie is more of a factor, disillousoned fans will get behind him once again.  

By comparision, since the start of December, Prusek has 10 games.

In 8 games with 20+ shots, Prusek has 7 wins, 1 losses.
In 2 games with less than twenty shots, he has 1 win and 1 tie.


Thats interesting indeed, OS.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 11:33:26 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: SzuperChicky
Senturion, I don't recall any trolling from you.
I know you often got in debates with Sensless, etc.  But we all have.


Oh NOOOO,  :shock: *twitch *twitch :shock:

I remember it all now!

*twitch  *twitch

WHY did you have to say its name, WHHHHHYYYYY???

I had actually forgotten that ones name, until now.


Man, what a flashback I just had.


He actually attempted to come to this forum.  I think a few of the others as well.   :roll:


Was it a he?
I seriously thought he was a she.


I'm pretty sure it was a guy.  :?


And you are a....?

:mrgreen:


...you wanna take a look at the gutter in a few minutes?  :twisted:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SzuperChicky on March 08, 2004, 11:36:57 PM
Quote from: Senturion

Ah well, it matters not which gender that particular troll was.
All that matters is that we have a place, no, a sanctuary where we can actually talk shop rather than fling mud all about.

I actually tried to start a Sens trivia thread, and it was starting to go somewhere, but then got drowned in the flood of useless threads which ended up killing the forum in the end.

Is there a trivia thread here that I might have missed?
Been reading some pretty interesting stuff on the Sens of old, and would love to throw some tidbits out there for people to see.

I really didn't mean to use this thread for this either, just so you all know.


I remember that Rileydog guy.  He tried to get people mixed up with using similar names to yours and mine.

Quote from: OS

In 8 games with 20+ shots, Prusek has 7 wins, 1 losses.
In 2 games with less than twenty shots, he has 1 win and 1 tie.


Like I said a long time ago, Prusek is like Mensator...and many other Czech goalies.  They play better with a lot of shots.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: kjs on March 09, 2004, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: OS
I got curious about success vs. shot count in recent games.

From the start of December Lalime has 23 games.

In 16 games with 20+ shots, Patty has 6 wins, 8 losses, 2 ties.
In 7 games with less than twenty shots, he is 5 wins, 1 loss, 1 tie.  

So his record is under .500 when there are more than twenty shots on goal.   Ottawa also has the 2nd lowest shots on goal in the league with 24.5.  When he starts to put together a better record in games where the goalie is more of a factor, disillousoned fans will get behind him once again.  

By comparision, since the start of December, Prusek has 10 games.

In 8 games with 20+ shots, Prusek has 7 wins, 1 losses.
In 2 games with less than twenty shots, he has 1 win and 1 tie.


Agree with everybody -- that is interesting.  Especially since I would have expected Lalime's stats to show the reverse.

But, as with all stats, I'm not sure how much we can read into this.  Wins/losses might not be a particularly revealing indicator; maybe the teams getting fewer than 20 shots are just weak and so easier to beat (e.g. last night's game).  Would be interesting to match this with SV%/GA; would also be interesting to see the Sens' shots-for (and goals-for) in those games.

Secondly, the cutoff point chosen for dividing up the stats will normally make a huge difference to how the results look.  20 is a nice round figure but from the perspective of shots faced it's just as arbitrary as 19 or 23.  Would the pattern change if a different cutoff were chosen?  Is there a clustering of wins/losses around a certain shot-count?  Might (for example) Lalime also do better when he faces 30+ shots (e.g. his 32-save shutout of NYI on Jan. 1)?  But your numbers raise interesting questions.

Don't see any reason why we shouldn't include pre-December results.

I'll try looking into this stuff further if I get a chance.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on March 09, 2004, 10:50:34 AM
Well, what Mucks does with Lalime in the next four hours will determine the rest of our season ...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on March 09, 2004, 10:58:05 AM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Well, what Mucks does with Lalime in the next four hours will determine the rest of our season ...


funny you mention that, I was talking with someone, and I said that I feel like a hostage in the 11th hour. I honestly believe that the determination of how serious this organization is, will be disclosed today. Mucks can't be that blind to the truth....
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 11:01:57 AM
yup......seems PAL may get what they want today. :( I'll be sad, but I'll still be a Lalime fan.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on March 09, 2004, 11:19:50 AM
Patricia Bole was just on the Score. Seems Lalime once again got the vote of confidence from Muckler, which seem contrary to what he said on Sportsnet the other night.


EDIT:

She's on again right now --- doesn't seem as definitive as the short statement she made in the accross the Canada segment.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on March 09, 2004, 11:22:05 AM
:?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 09, 2004, 11:29:46 AM
I just think getting Kolzig would be a watse of too many assets AND I don't like having to keep him as the starter for the next two years at over 6 million each year.  I really wanna see Emery be given a shot at the starting position next year and unless Lalime wins the cup then I wouldn't mind starting the year with an Emery/Prusek battle.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on March 09, 2004, 11:42:04 AM
Quote from: TrentBlue
I just think getting Kolzig would be a watse of too many assets AND I don't like having to keep him as the starter for the next two years at over 6 million each year.  I really wanna see Emery be given a shot at the starting position next year and unless Lalime wins the cup then I wouldn't mind starting the year with an Emery/Prusek battle.


Emery needs more than this before he is ready. He is still abit of a wild one... he needs to learn to be more of a team player... don't get me wrong, I like him, but I dont think he is ready
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 09, 2004, 11:44:48 AM
Quote
I'll try looking into this stuff further if I get a chance.


espn.com has a nice breakdown with the info you are mentioning.  I picked Dec. because that is when the Sens started to play well and make up ground to get back into the race and to see how they are playing more recently.

Just on the shot count, it runs counter intuitive to the line that the team plays better in front of Prusek.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 09, 2004, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: armchaircoach
Quote from: TrentBlue
I just think getting Kolzig would be a watse of too many assets AND I don't like having to keep him as the starter for the next two years at over 6 million each year.  I really wanna see Emery be given a shot at the starting position next year and unless Lalime wins the cup then I wouldn't mind starting the year with an Emery/Prusek battle.


Emery needs more than this before he is ready. He is still abit of a wild one... he needs to learn to be more of a team player... don't get me wrong, I like him, but I dont think he is ready


In one respect I agree ... however, he's spending too mucht ime in the minors...he MUST at least be the back-up with the Sens next year...and I really wouldn't mind seeing what he can do!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: kjs on March 09, 2004, 11:56:52 AM
Quote from: OS
Quote
I'll try looking into this stuff further if I get a chance.


espn.com has a nice breakdown with the info you are mentioning.  I picked Dec. because that is when the Sens started to play well and make up ground to get back into the race and to see how they are playing more recently.

Just on the shot count, it runs counter intuitive to the line that the team plays better in front of Prusek.


Thanks -- will take a look at some point.  I think Nov. would be interesting precisely because the whole team played so lousy -- will affect distribution of wins/losses.

On Prusek's shots -- right, forgot to mention that as the other interesting result you dug up.  Again would be interesting to compare Sens' shots-for (and goals-for).  And again:  many different (even contradictory) things this stat could be indicating.  Will ponder this further.  Thanks for adding a new twist to a sometimes repetitive thread.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 09, 2004, 12:02:30 PM
fyi, the Sens have the largest differential between shots for and against in the league at a bit over 5.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: kjs on March 09, 2004, 12:15:33 PM
Quote from: OS
fyi, the Sens have the largest differential between shots for and against in the league at a bit over 5.


Not surprising, given GF/GA differential.  I'm interested to see the SF and GF broken down according to the numbers of SA/game, along the lines of what you did, and broken down further between Lalime/Prusek.  That might help round out the win/loss figures and might also shed light on questions like "Does having Prusek in nets make a difference to the Sens' offence or to their style of play?"

Of course, numbers can only tell you so much when it comes to these kinds of questions ... i.e. usually not a whole lot.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 01:06:45 PM
Please John Muckler put an end to this train wreck called Lalime  today :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on March 09, 2004, 01:18:15 PM
Panels on TSN, Sportsnet and Score all seem (with the exception of Tony Twist) to think that Lalime isn't good enough to get it done and the Sens should upgrade their goaltending if possible.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: operasen on March 09, 2004, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Well, what Mucks does with Lalime in the next four hours will determine the rest of our season ...


You got it right there.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: thirstymoose_2000
Panels on TSN, Sportsnet and Score all seem (with the exception of Tony Twist) to think that Lalime isn't good enough to get it done and the Sens should upgrade their goaltending if possible.


What do they know? :wink:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 01:32:03 PM
Hurry John, Hurry! Talk faster! :D  I can't wait....
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 01:42:38 PM
So if they don't trade Lalime :cry:  How could they possibly throw him back out there as a #1 goaltender. The secret's out, he's not good. Pusek will, hopefully get the nod from here on out.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 01:45:27 PM
If we don't get Kolzig, and TO does, we're done.

I hate sounding fatalistic, but I keep seeing that goal that ended our season last year (thank god Raccoon is gone), which Lalime should've had for crying out loud!

Man, Lalime just doesn't have what it takes!

(I have set up a shrine to the hockey gods, with Kolzigs pic on top of Lalimes.)
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 09, 2004, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Senturion
If we don't get Kolzig, and TO does, we're done.

I hate sounding fatalistic, but I keep seeing that goal that ended our season last year (thank god Raccoon is gone), which Lalime should've had for crying out loud!

Man, Lalime just doesn't have what it takes!

(I have set up a shrine to the hockey gods, with Kolzigs pic on top of Lalimes.)


your comment above is like saying that is Belfour is healthy the Sens cannot beat the Leafs and I don't buy that at all!!!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 01:50:26 PM
Not with Lalime, NO!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: TrentBlue on March 09, 2004, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Not with Lalime, NO!


well your opinion on this matter upsets me, but I will have to agree.
Title: Re: Lalime wil beback!
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: LalimeRules
You know what iam just asking all you lalime hating ses fans to please just hold off the comments of Lalime's bad games ansd stopp booing the poor guy at the CC at a bad game! Just refrain from doing that until after the playoffs and i gaurantte in  the playoffs if u stop booing the poor guy! he will be better A LOT BETTER! give lalime time and he wil show us why he is Ottawa's Number 1 goaltender again! GO LALIME GO!
GIVE THE GUY ATLEAST UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS! CHEER FOR HIM!
GO SENS GO!
SENS IN 04'


We should stop booing him and pretend everything is great? Believe Lalime is a great goalie and he will become one? That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Even from the other Lalime lovers here. :roll:


no the biggest load of crap was when you guaranteed he wouldn't be number #1 by March. LMFAO. It's march buddy.


I guess I was way off on this prediction, given the fact it's March 9th and Lalime is lighting up the league! Sorry I was wrong :lol:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 02:09:51 PM
meh.......he's still number one and your still wrong. and   for an hour more at least......
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 03:23:51 PM
Well, lets hope we can get to the Conference Finals at least.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on March 09, 2004, 03:26:51 PM
Well it looks like we're stuck with Lalime.

Let's hope he proves us all wrong, and if he doesn't let's hope Jacques subborness doesn't prevent him from putting in Prusek if the Sens get in trouble.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: interzone on March 09, 2004, 03:27:38 PM
I hope Lalime didn't hear about the Kolzig rumour that never fell through.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 09, 2004, 03:30:41 PM
Damn, Lalime is still here?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on March 09, 2004, 03:36:17 PM
Still some hope PL, trades can be announced as late as 7 or 8 tonight if the league offices are busy.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:37:17 PM
It's not over yet you guys. They are allowed to continue negotions for any trades they were in the middle of at 3pm. So it could be in the works. Which I wouldn't like.

If it doesn't happen, maybe Lalime will hear that he was about to be traded and will sharpen up or be out for sure in the off season.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 03:38:51 PM
Or maybe he'll have a nasty run in with an overzealous Sens fan on March 14th, in Edmonton, and won't be able to play, ever again. :twisted:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: thirstymoose_2000 on March 09, 2004, 03:40:12 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
It's not over yet you guys. They are allowed to continue negotions for any trades they were in the middle of at 3pm. So it could be in the works. Which I wouldn't like.

If it doesn't happen, maybe Lalime will hear that he was about to be traded and will sharpen up or be out for sure in the off season.


No, they actually have to be complete and in to the league office by 3PM. What can carry on is the call with the league to approve the deal.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:40:39 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Or maybe he'll have a nasty run in with an overzealous Sens fan on March 14th, in Edmonton, and won't be able to play, ever again. :twisted:


yeah, that'd be smart.  then we'd have to hope to hell Prusek can take us to the cup cuz he'd be the only one left.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Senturion
Or maybe he'll have a nasty run in with an overzealous Sens fan on March 14th, in Edmonton, and won't be able to play, ever again. :twisted:


yeah, that'd be smart.  then we'd have to hope to hell Prusek can take us to the cup cuz he'd be the only one left.


We'd have a better chance with Prusek and Emery!

Lalime had his chance, last year, and blew it when it counted most!

Time for a changing of the gaurd!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:43:17 PM
whatever.  watch last years playoff again.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 03:45:45 PM
No need to, I still have nightmares of Friesen coming in, blowing past Raccoon as he stood there looking stupid, and then hammering the final nail in the Sens proverbial coffin, as he let a simple shot, UNOBSTRUCTED, fly past our so-called netminder!

Such a pathetic attempt by Lalime, which is why I am still pissed to this very day!

We should've kept Hurme.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:47:11 PM
Hurme... LOL

like I said watch it again.

We've seen all season that our team doesn't get very far when Lalime's having a bad game. He took them to the ECF. I'd say that's pretty good since only 2 other tenders made it any further.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 09, 2004, 03:47:59 PM
Those who advocate Lalime should never tell others to watch last year's playoffs. he was horrible last year.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: OS on March 09, 2004, 03:48:45 PM
Quote
No need to, I still have nightmares of Friesen coming in, blowing past Raccoon as he stood there looking stupid,


I got to watch players blowing by Rachunek all this year.   I think the Sens can be ok with one or the other of the combo, but put together it was ugly.   2 of the 3 Flyer's first goals in thelast game were with Rachunek providing weak coverage.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:49:02 PM
you better watch it again too PL.

the proof is been happening all season, our team looses when Lalime is bad.

we've been over this many times.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Hurme... LOL

like I said watch it again.

We've seen all season that our team doesn't get very far when Lalime's having a bad game. He took them to the ECF. I'd say that's pretty good since only 2 other tenders made it any further.


Yeah, ok, our blueline had nothing to do with that at all eh?
It was all Lalime.
 :lol:
How many 1st shots did he let in again?

Doesn't he hold that record now?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:51:47 PM
I fail to see how a 1.82 GAA  .924 SV% is considered horrible.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:52:50 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: Lalime40
Hurme... LOL

like I said watch it again.

We've seen all season that our team doesn't get very far when Lalime's having a bad game. He took them to the ECF. I'd say that's pretty good since only 2 other tenders made it any further.


Yeah, ok, our blueline had nothing to do with that at all eh?
It was all Lalime.
 :lol:
How many 1st shots did he let in again?

Doesn't he hold that record now?


woopty doo. what does that prove? that's he been sucking this season? we all agree on that.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 09, 2004, 03:53:57 PM
But it is obvious that weak goals in games two and four of the NJ series lost the Sens the cup.

And lalime set records last year playoffs for allowing early first goals on weak shots

He stunk so bad he even made TSN and Sportsnet commentaries on that fact.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:56:49 PM
Quote from: plcamp
But it is obvious that weak goals in games two and four of the NJ series lost the Sens the cup.

And lalime set records last year playoffs for allowing early first goals on weak shots

He stunk so bad he even made TSN and Sportsnet commentaries on that fact.



whatever....make all the exuses you want. No other tender has gotten us to the ECF.  1 or 2 bad games hardly consitutes horrible. You are so confused it's not even funny.


Luckily LALIME IS HERE OT STAY! Final word just in from Muckler! WOOT!


Oh yeah,,,, who's the man now? not Dallas or PL.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 09, 2004, 03:58:19 PM
Our chances at Stanley are cut to 1/3rd of what they woudl have been if any pother G had been brought in to replace Lalime. We have at best a faint chance now, unless Prusek takes over.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 03:59:45 PM
you can don your blue and white now PL.  :)

I think your getting old and loosing your memory.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 04:00:02 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
I fail to see how a 1.82 GAA  .924 SV% is considered horrible.


But currently, its 2.29 GAA, with a .903 SV%
He is 23 W and 19 L with 7 T, not that great at all, whilst Prusek is  13 W, 4 L, and 2 T.

This is pointless, as I am trying to be objective here, and arguing with someone who has Lalime in their name, and in their Avatar, is just ridiculous.

The guy could be at the bottom of the league, and you'd still argue that he's our man.

Useless.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 04:00:54 PM
Mucks stated that Prusek is better than lalime, so maybe thats an omen, or perhaps a command to Martin.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 09, 2004, 04:01:07 PM
Losing memory about what. Lalime was horrible in last year's playoffs, and maybe you're the one that needs to watch those games again.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:01:32 PM
It is pointless. Since regular season stats have little to do with post season.

I'd argue it cuz it's true. He number one and nobody has changed that. here's here to stay for this year anyway.

WOOT!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Losing memory about what. Lalime was horrible in last year's playoffs, and maybe you're the one that needs to watch those games again.


we gonna go around in circles now pL?

I fail to see how a 1.82 GAA .924 SV% is considered horrible.

you ARE loosing your memory. i posted that just 3 posts ago.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:04:04 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: plcamp
Losing memory about what. Lalime was horrible in last year's playoffs, and maybe you're the one that needs to watch those games again.


we gonna go around in circles now pL?

I fail to see how a 1.82 GAA .924 SV% is considered horrible.

you ARE loosing your memory. i posted that just 3 posts ago.


Its when he allowed the goals/
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: plcamp
Losing memory about what. Lalime was horrible in last year's playoffs, and maybe you're the one that needs to watch those games again.


We just need to hope and pray that Prusek gets ice time this post-season, so that he won't be so green next year, or the year after.

I had so much hope for Lalime when he joined us, but after last years fiasco, I think we both agree that with him in net, there's not a hope in hell that we will make it to the final dance.

Oh well, at least some of us are walking and talking with our eyes open.

Even Mucks sees this, but I think that he just couldn't swing a good enough deal with McPhee for Olaf, so now we get to watch someone else win the Grail.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: armchaircoach on March 09, 2004, 04:08:24 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: plcamp
Losing memory about what. Lalime was horrible in last year's playoffs, and maybe you're the one that needs to watch those games again.


we gonna go around in circles now pL?

I fail to see how a 1.82 GAA .924 SV% is considered horrible.

you ARE loosing your memory. i posted that just 3 posts ago.


Its when he allowed the goals/


<collectively they scratch their heads>
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: plcamp
Losing memory about what. Lalime was horrible in last year's playoffs, and maybe you're the one that needs to watch those games again.


We just need to hope and pray that Prusek gets ice time this post-season, so that he won't be so green next year, or the year after.

I had so much hope for Lalime when he joined us, but after last years fiasco, I think we both agree that with him in net, there's not a hope in hell that we will make it to the final dance.

Oh well, at least some of us are walking and talking with our eyes open.

Even Mucks sees this, but I think that he just couldn't swing a good enough deal with McPhee for Olaf, so now we get to watch someone else win the Grail.


well I am all for tandem goaltending. I like them both.

however, you can go watch someone else win the grail. I'll watch the sens do it instead.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: plcamp
Losing memory about what. Lalime was horrible in last year's playoffs, and maybe you're the one that needs to watch those games again.


We just need to hope and pray that Prusek gets ice time this post-season, so that he won't be so green next year, or the year after.

I had so much hope for Lalime when he joined us, but after last years fiasco, I think we both agree that with him in net, there's not a hope in hell that we will make it to the final dance.

Oh well, at least some of us are walking and talking with our eyes open.

Even Mucks sees this, but I think that he just couldn't swing a good enough deal with McPhee for Olaf, so now we get to watch someone else win the Grail.


well I am all for tandem goaltending. I like them both.

however, you can go watch someone else win the grail. I'll watch the sens do it instead.


As soon as the Sens are eliminated, I stop watching, so no, I won't be watching whoever else win the Cup.

Hey, if Lalime scored\s on himself, will it be his fault?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: SensSmaq on March 09, 2004, 04:24:31 PM
There's hope!

Muckler just said on Team 1200 that the Sens would not hesitate to start Prusek in the playoffs if Lalime continued to struggle.

Funny thing is that's not what Jacques said last week, looks like Muck's is pulling rank on Jacques...good for him, Jacques is too stubborn to admit he is wrong.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Senturion
Quote from: plcamp
Losing memory about what. Lalime was horrible in last year's playoffs, and maybe you're the one that needs to watch those games again.


We just need to hope and pray that Prusek gets ice time this post-season, so that he won't be so green next year, or the year after.

I had so much hope for Lalime when he joined us, but after last years fiasco, I think we both agree that with him in net, there's not a hope in hell that we will make it to the final dance.

Oh well, at least some of us are walking and talking with our eyes open.

Even Mucks sees this, but I think that he just couldn't swing a good enough deal with McPhee for Olaf, so now we get to watch someone else win the Grail.


well I am all for tandem goaltending. I like them both.

however, you can go watch someone else win the grail. I'll watch the sens do it instead.


As soon as the Sens are eliminated, I stop watching, so no, I won't be watching whoever else win the Cup.

Hey, if Lalime scored\s on himself, will it be his fault?


Its the defence. Redden must have coughed the wrong way.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: operasen on March 09, 2004, 04:28:08 PM
Well guys, we go to war with Lalime and Prusek.  Last Man Standing had better be a Sen.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:28:46 PM
see...you guys can't get anything right.

of course it would be his fault.

duh
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
It is pointless. Since regular season stats have little to do with post season.

I'd argue it cuz it's true. He number one and nobody has changed that. here's here to stay for this year anyway.

WOOT!


How can you be even remotely happy? We are going into the playoffs with the absolute worst stating goaltender in the entire league. How far do you think Lalime will take us? How many games in the playoffs do you expect this sieve to start? I expect JM does the same thing and were out in the second round tops.

SAD SAD SAD Day. We're stuck with a sub standard starting goaltender :cry:  :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:31:57 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
It is pointless. Since regular season stats have little to do with post season.

I'd argue it cuz it's true. He number one and nobody has changed that. here's here to stay for this year anyway.

WOOT!


How can you be even remotely happy? We are going into the playoffs with the absolute worst stating goaltender in the entire league. How far do you think Lalime will take us? How many games in the playoffs do you expect this sieve to start? I expect JM does the same thing and were out in the second round tops.

SAD SAD SAD Day. We're stuck with a sub standard starting goaltender :cry:  :roll:


do you really need me to answer this? isn't it obvious what I think?

You have no say anyways....your GUARANTEE 2 months ago ruined it all for you.

I got some xtra kleenex since you seem to need it.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:32:19 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
It is pointless. Since regular season stats have little to do with post season.

I'd argue it cuz it's true. He number one and nobody has changed that. here's here to stay for this year anyway.

WOOT!


How can you be even remotely happy? We are going into the playoffs with the absolute worst stating goaltender in the entire league. How far do you think Lalime will take us? How many games in the playoffs do you expect this sieve to start? I expect JM does the same thing and were out in the second round tops.

SAD SAD SAD Day. We're stuck with a sub standard starting goaltender :cry:  :roll:


Its unfortunate. What can you do. I just want to see if the Lalime supporters show up here when the Sens are eliminated because of Lalime.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:34:40 PM
I'll be here. And i'll be the first to say he sucked.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
It is pointless. Since regular season stats have little to do with post season.

I'd argue it cuz it's true. He number one and nobody has changed that. here's here to stay for this year anyway.

WOOT!


How can you be even remotely happy? We are going into the playoffs with the absolute worst stating goaltender in the entire league. How far do you think Lalime will take us? How many games in the playoffs do you expect this sieve to start? I expect JM does the same thing and were out in the second round tops.

SAD SAD SAD Day. We're stuck with a sub standard starting goaltender :cry:  :roll:


do you really need me to answer this? isn't it obvious what I think?

You have no say anyways....your GUARANTEE 2 months ago ruined it all for you.



His promise came true. We've been trying to make you understand this, stats wise, Lalime is no longer the #1 goaltender here. Prusek is. However, Jacques Martin the loyal coach he is, wants to stick with Lalime, that is an uncontrolable factor. Any other coach would give Prusek the job.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 04:36:37 PM
There is no way in hell we will win anything wth lalime in net throughout the playoffs!  :roll:  Our only hope now is Prusek, I hope they start him Thursday and give him the rest of the games or were SOL!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
It is pointless. Since regular season stats have little to do with post season.

I'd argue it cuz it's true. He number one and nobody has changed that. here's here to stay for this year anyway.

WOOT!


How can you be even remotely happy? We are going into the playoffs with the absolute worst stating goaltender in the entire league. How far do you think Lalime will take us? How many games in the playoffs do you expect this sieve to start? I expect JM does the same thing and were out in the second round tops.

SAD SAD SAD Day. We're stuck with a sub standard starting goaltender :cry:  :roll:


do you really need me to answer this? isn't it obvious what I think?

You have no say anyways....your GUARANTEE 2 months ago ruined it all for you.



His promise came true. We've been trying to make you understand this, stats wise, Lalime is no longer the #1 goaltender here. Psruek is. However Jacques Martin the loyal coach he wants to stick with Lalime, that is an uncontrolable factor. Any other coach would give Prusek the job.


I still haven't seen the link proving it. As far as I am concerned, he's number 1 until JM or Muckler say so.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:39:24 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
There is no way in hell we will win anything wth lalime in net throughout the playoffs!  :roll:  Our only hope now is Prusek, I hope they start him Thursday and give him the rest of the games or were SOL!


giving up already? some fan you are. I got a blue and white shirt you can have, I'll dig it outta the garbage can in my garage.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:39:55 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
It is pointless. Since regular season stats have little to do with post season.

I'd argue it cuz it's true. He number one and nobody has changed that. here's here to stay for this year anyway.

WOOT!


How can you be even remotely happy? We are going into the playoffs with the absolute worst stating goaltender in the entire league. How far do you think Lalime will take us? How many games in the playoffs do you expect this sieve to start? I expect JM does the same thing and were out in the second round tops.

SAD SAD SAD Day. We're stuck with a sub standard starting goaltender :cry:  :roll:


do you really need me to answer this? isn't it obvious what I think?

You have no say anyways....your GUARANTEE 2 months ago ruined it all for you.



His promise came true. We've been trying to make you understand this, stats wise, Lalime is no longer the #1 goaltender here. Psruek is. However Jacques Martin the loyal coach he wants to stick with Lalime, that is an uncontrolable factor. Any other coach would give Prusek the job.


I still haven't seen the link proving it. As far as I am concerned, he's number 1 until JM or Muckler say so.


Here's your link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/teams/stats?team=ott

Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 04:40:45 PM
Ya Lalime40 I know all your predictions are right on the money. The only thing I didn't predict was JM's assinine sense of loyalty, maybe because they are both French Canadians? Gotta be something.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:41:02 PM
keep trying. That link show Lalime above Prusek. WHy? Cuz he's number one!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Ya Lalime40 I know all your predictions are right on the money. The only thing I didn't predict was JM's assinine sense of loyalty, maybe because they are both French Canadians? Gotta be something.


my predictions are right on the money. you know why? cuz I've predicted jack.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 04:42:54 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
keep trying. That link show Lalime above Prusek. WHy? Cuz he's number one!


Are you really serious or are you just having fun with us?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:43:52 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
keep trying. That link show Lalime above Prusek. WHy? Cuz he's number one!


Are you really serious or are you just having fun with us?


can you not read? how old ARE you?

it says

Patrick Lalime
Martin Prusek
Ray Emery

in that order.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
keep trying. That link show Lalime above Prusek. WHy? Cuz he's number one!


That is pure nonsense.

Here:

Tie Domi
Bobby Orr


Domi is above Orr therefore he's better. What kind of logic is that?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: plcamp on March 09, 2004, 04:45:30 PM
lalime must have pictures incriminating Muckler somehow. It is the only explanation.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:45:47 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Lalime40
keep trying. That link show Lalime above Prusek. WHy? Cuz he's number one!


Are you really serious or are you just having fun with us?


I don't know Dallas. This is illogical.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
keep trying. That link show Lalime above Prusek. WHy? Cuz he's number one!


That is pure nonsense.

Here:

Tie Domi
Bobby Orr


Domi is above Orr therefore he's better. What kind of logic is that?



You amde that list yourself? what does domi have to do with goaltending.

listen, show me a link where is says Prusek is number 1. Until I see one, you guys are just blowing alot of hot air.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 04:48:26 PM
This argument is useless, as all counterpoints being offered by the Lalime supporter/s are shallow and severely opinionated.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:48:43 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
keep trying. That link show Lalime above Prusek. WHy? Cuz he's number one!


That is pure nonsense.

Here:

Tie Domi
Bobby Orr


Domi is above Orr therefore he's better. What kind of logic is that?



You amde that list yourself? what does domi have to do with goaltending.

listen, show me a link where is says Prusek is number 1. Until I see one, you guys are just blowing alot of hot air.


What does a freaking link have to do with that?????????????????
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:49:27 PM
Quote from: Senturion
This argument is useless, as all counterpoints being offered by the Lalime supporter/s are shallow and severely opinionated.



it is useless. they are trying to prove something that isn't true at all.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 04:50:00 PM
This is a stupid argument. Here...JM is using Lalime as his #1 Goaltender. OK? The stats and almost every other person who knows anything about hockey is of the opinion Lalime is weak and doesn't warrent the #1 designation and Prusek has shown that he indeed does deserve the #1 designation.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:50:54 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Lalime40
keep trying. That link show Lalime above Prusek. WHy? Cuz he's number one!


That is pure nonsense.

Here:

Tie Domi
Bobby Orr


Domi is above Orr therefore he's better. What kind of logic is that?






You amde that list yourself? what does domi have to do with goaltending.

listen, show me a link where is says Prusek is number 1. Until I see one, you guys are just blowing alot of hot air.


What does a freaking link have to do with that?????????????????


it has to do with everything. Your trying to say Prusek is number 1. until you can prove it, it's merely your opinoin. JM and Muckler say Lalime's number 1.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:51:24 PM
Lalime:

GAA = 2.29
SV% = .903 Thats 39th in the league

Prusek:

GAA = 1.86
SV% = .926
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:51:56 PM
Quote from: Senturion
This argument is useless, as all counterpoints being offered by the Lalime supporter/s are shallow and severely opinionated.


and blind to evidence
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 04:52:22 PM
this just in on Tema 1200

"we have been told that patrick Lalime is our guy. he will be the starter for the playoffs"


LOL....I love it. nice try lads.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 04:53:39 PM
You all DO realize that this guy/girl has a pic of Lalime in both his/her handle AND avatar?

Just wanted to point that out.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome


What does a freaking link have to do with that?????????????????


it has to do with everything.


What is this? Is that how debates are won?

Again:

Lalime:

GAA = 2.29
SV% = .903 Thats 39th in the league

Prusek:

GAA = 1.86
SV% = .926
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 04:56:38 PM
I guess that letter on OTR from the Eastern Conference to the Sens was taken to heart. :cry:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BingoSensFan on March 09, 2004, 05:02:33 PM
Lalime40,

Go crawl in a hole.  You are not objective at all.  If Lalime murdered someone you would probably say it was not really his fault.  How does it feel to have a thousand people against you and you are one of a very few still supporting one of the worst goalies in the NHL.  You and the dumbest person ever involved in hockey, Jacques Martin.  By the way, what is it going to take to get Martin fired?  Anything?  Is there nothing that will do it?  If they stick with Lalime, a first or second round loss is guaranteed, IMO.  If Prusek starts (which will be Muckler's doing more than anything) then it is possible to win the Cup.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 05:03:58 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
this just in on Tema 1200

"we have been told that patrick Lalime is our guy. he will be the starter for the playoffs"


LOL....I love it. nice try lads.


You have to be a leafs fan to be that happy about Lalime starting for our team in the playoffs! It's the kiss of elimination :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Billy_Muckwalt on March 09, 2004, 05:04:12 PM
"Lalime is our man"


Were screwed. Were going into the playoffs with a 39th seeded goalie!
Talk about a gamble. As much as I will cheer the Sens on this spring, I highly doubt there will more than one series of play off games before were knocked out. Unless of course our wicked offence can score 5 goals a game. We have made such great aquisitons and seen some younger talent step up, just to waste it all by gambling on Lalime.

What a bush league move this was by Mucks and CO.
I hope they prove me wrong but I doubt it. As you can see the only lalime supporters around here appear dilusional which explains allot about thier point of view.

Damn, we could of have a great shot at the cup had we got a true goaltender.

Instead we are going with mr #39th in the league, Patty "Red Light" Lalime. Mr Softie himself. I bet the opposing team scores on him with thier first shot again throughout the playoffs until were knocked out..

I wish I had something to be proud of here, but nope. We have so much going for us just to waste it all here. ;(
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 05:06:31 PM
Quote from: Billy_Muckwalt
"Lalime is our man"


Were screwed. Were going into the playoffs with a 39th seeded goalie!
Talk about a gamble. As much as I will cheer the Sens on this spring, I highly doubt there will more than one series of play off games before were knocked out. Unless of course our wicked offence can score 5 goals a game. We have made such great aquisitons and seen some younger talent step up, just to waste it all by gambling on Lalime.

What a bush league move this was by Mucks and CO.
I hope they prove me wrong but I doubt it. As you can see the only lalime supporters around here appear dilusional which explains allot about thier point of view.

Damn, we could of have a great shot at the cup had we got a true goaltender.

Instead we are going with mr #39th in the league, Patty "Red Light" Lalime. Mr Softie himself. I bet the opposing team scores on him with thier first shot again throughout the playoffs until were knocked out..

I wish I had something to be proud of here, but nope. We have so much going for us just to waste it all here. ;(


My sentements exactly....were screwed and it'll be worse/more evident this year who is responsible! :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:08:22 PM
Quote from: Billy_Muckwalt


Damn, we could of have a great shot at the cup had we got a true goaltender.



All you have to do is look at how the Leafs play behind an elite goaltender. They are a completely different team with Beflour in net. They're more confident, less likely to make mistakes, and rhey score more often.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 05:08:51 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:09:59 PM
Quote from: Docawesome

What is this? Is that how debates are won?

Again:

Lalime:

GAA = 2.29
SV% = .903 Thats 39th in the league

Prusek:

GAA = 1.86
SV% = .926


all that proves is he's been bad this season. Proves nothing about being the number one tender.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 05:10:07 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Billy_Muckwalt


Damn, we could of have a great shot at the cup had we got a true goaltender.



All you have to do is look at how the Leafs play behind an elite goaltender. They are a completely different team with Beflour in net. They're more confident, less likely to make mistakes, and rhey score more often.


Just like we play when Prusek is in nets?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:10:57 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome


What is this? Is that how debates are won?

Again:

Lalime:

GAA = 2.29
SV% = .903 Thats 39th in the league

Prusek:

GAA = 1.86
SV% = .926


all that proves is he's been bad this season. Proves nothing about being the number one tender.



Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Thats it I'm outta here.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 05:12:13 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome
What is this? Is that how debates are won?

Again:

Lalime:

GAA = 2.29
SV% = .903 Thats 39th in the league

Prusek:

GAA = 1.86
SV% = .926


all that proves is he's been bad this season. Proves nothing about being the number one tender.


OK...so we have a terrible #1 and a very good #2 with better stats in all goaltending catagories. At least we agree on that. :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Lalime40,

Go crawl in a hole.  You are not objective at all.  If Lalime murdered someone you would probably say it was not really his fault.  How does it feel to have a thousand people against you and you are one of a very few still supporting one of the worst goalies in the NHL.  You and the dumbest person ever involved in hockey, Jacques Martin.  By the way, what is it going to take to get Martin fired?  Anything?  Is there nothing that will do it?  If they stick with Lalime, a first or second round loss is guaranteed, IMO.  If Prusek starts (which will be Muckler's doing more than anything) then it is possible to win the Cup.


ahh.....you getting upset little man?  I always say he sucks when he sucks. I rarely defelct the blame. Scoll though the last 4000 or so posts and see for yourself.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:12:43 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: Billy_Muckwalt


Damn, we could of have a great shot at the cup had we got a true goaltender.



All you have to do is look at how the Leafs play behind an elite goaltender. They are a completely different team with Beflour in net. They're more confident, less likely to make mistakes, and rhey score more often.


Just like we play when Prusek is in nets?


ditto
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
OK...so we have a terrible #1 and a very good #2 with better stats in all goaltending catagories. At least we agree on that. :roll:


yeah we do. He has been terrible this season and Prusek has defintaly been the better goaltender. Don't ask me why Patty is still number 1, but he is and that's what you guaranteed wouldn't be the case.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: DallasSENSFan on March 09, 2004, 05:15:02 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
 yeah we do. He has been terrible this season and Prusek has defintaly been the better goaltender. Don't ask me why Patty is still number 1, but he is and that's what you guaranteed wouldn't be the case.


OK...I give up...you win....your right! :roll:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: fishx on March 09, 2004, 05:21:56 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: BingoSensFan
Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!


That's not what I heard....  :shock:
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 05:23:46 PM
God I hope this DeVries can cover Lalimes weak spots better than Raccoon did.
At this point, thats all we can hope for.

I'm starting to wonder if Martin has made a secret deal with Lalime or one of our contenders, with how stubborn he has been with this particular goalie tandem.

Maybe Prusek said something derogatory about his situation, or Quebec, and Martin is out to get him.

I just don't know anymore, nothing makes sense here!
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:23:50 PM
Quote from: Lalime40
Quote from: Docawesome
Quote from: DallasSENSFan
Quote from: Docawesome
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Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!



You are? :shock:

No offence, but I thought you were a puck bunny.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:23:59 PM
LOL fishx....
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Senturion on March 09, 2004, 05:24:21 PM
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Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!



You are?

No offence, but I thought you were a puck bunny.


Likewise.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:24:41 PM
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Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!



You are?

No offence, but I thought you were a puck bunny.


that's ok. I thought you were a 14 year old boy based on your nick and avatar.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BingoSensFan on March 09, 2004, 05:25:18 PM
Lalime40,

Now you're confusing me.  You admit Prusek has been better than Lalime, but that Lalime should be #1?  Is this what you're saying?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:26:33 PM
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Lalime40,

Now you're confusing me.  You admit Prusek has been better than Lalime, but that Lalime should be #1?  Is this what you're saying?



no. I said Prusek has been better all season but Lalime IS still number 1. Don't ask me why.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:27:52 PM
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Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!



You are?

No offence, but I thought you were a puck bunny.


Likewise.



just goes to show just how much you don't know.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BingoSensFan on March 09, 2004, 05:27:58 PM
Don't ask you why?  Then how could you possibly back up your position?  You can't say something without reason.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:28:28 PM
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Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!



You are?

No offence, but I thought you were a puck bunny.


that's ok. I thought you were a 14 year old boy based on your nick and avatar.


The difference between my statement and yours, is that I was serious. Thats why I wrote "No offence". I thought you were a puck bunny, and puck bunnies are usually women. So I drew up a conclusion that you were a female. My bad. sorry...
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:29:37 PM
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Don't ask you why?  Then how could you possibly back up your position?  You can't say something without reason.


I mean don't ask me why he's still number 1. He's not been very good this season.

what is my position anyways? you seem to think you know what it is.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:30:59 PM
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Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!



You are?

No offence, but I thought you were a puck bunny.


that's ok. I thought you were a 14 year old boy based on your nick and avatar.


The difference between my statement and yours, is that I was serious. Thats why I wrote "No offence". I thought you were a puck bunny, and puck bunnies are usually women. So I drew up a conclusion that you were a female. My bad. sorry...


I was serious as well. No offence but that's what I thought and drew up the conlcusion that you were a 14 year old boy. Mostly kids pick name like docawesome. my bad as well. sorry.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:31:02 PM
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Don't ask you why?  Then how could you possibly back up your position?  You can't say something without reason.


Lets try something else. Lalime40, in your opinion should Lalime be our #1 based on his stats?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:32:22 PM
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Don't ask you why?  Then how could you possibly back up your position?  You can't say something without reason.


Lets try something else. Lalime40, in your opinion should Lalime be our #1 based on his stats?


based on his stats this season. no. Prusek's been playing much better. I am glad Lalime is still on the team though, even if he does end up as the back up in the playoffs.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: BingoSensFan on March 09, 2004, 05:32:24 PM
Lalime40,

I thought you were saying Lalime should be number one.  If you don't think he should be number one, then I sincerely apologize.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:33:26 PM
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Lalime40,

You are not objective at all.


No she's is not.
Jenn is objective.


I definitely don't agree with you there Doc!


lol


doc man, in 4000 posts you still haven't figuered out I'm a guy. Pay attention!



You are?

No offence, but I thought you were a puck bunny.


that's ok. I thought you were a 14 year old boy based on your nick and avatar.


The difference between my statement and yours, is that I was serious. Thats why I wrote "No offence". I thought you were a puck bunny, and puck bunnies are usually women. So I drew up a conclusion that you were a female. My bad. sorry...


I was serious as well. No offence but that's what I thought and drew up the conlcusion that you were a 14 year old boy. Mostly kids pick name like docawesome. my bad as well. sorry.


How adorable. Time for ya to go to bed now, nightie night.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:34:51 PM
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Don't ask you why?  Then how could you possibly back up your position?  You can't say something without reason.


Lets try something else. Lalime40, in your opinion should Lalime be our #1 based on his stats?


based on his stats this season. no. Prusek's been playing much better. I am glad Lalime is still on the team though, even if he does end up as the back up in the playoffs.


Then if you agree, what are you arguing about?
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:35:36 PM
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Lalime40,

I thought you were saying Lalime should be number one.  If you don't think he should be number one, then I sincerely apologize.


a.o.k.  I try not to take things personnally. altough sometimes it's hard to avoid.

I would like it best if Lalime had the stats to be number one. But he just doesn't this year.  even i can see it. but i am happy that muckler is at least going to give him a chance this post season. I am also glad we have someone as good as prusek to step in should Lalime prove you all right that he won't turn it around under playoff pressure.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:37:54 PM
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Don't ask you why?  Then how could you possibly back up your position?  You can't say something without reason.


Lets try something else. Lalime40, in your opinion should Lalime be our #1 based on his stats?


based on his stats this season. no. Prusek's been playing much better. I am glad Lalime is still on the team though, even if he does end up as the back up in the playoffs.


Then if you agree, what are you arguing about?


we were arguing about the GUARANTEE rememeber? not whether he should be number one or not. just whether he IS or not. which he is. just not statiscally.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:39:14 PM
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How adorable. Time for ya to go to bed now, nightie night.


LOL. my bedtime isn't at 6. it's 10...LOL. And I'm serious. I'm bagged by 10 after working all day.
Title: Official Lalime Watch...... (Vol. 3: Jan.29+)
Post by: Lalime40 on March 09, 2004, 05:40:40 PM
that being said. it's time for me to go home. Been here since 8am.

get your shots at Lalime in while you can. :)
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Post by: Docawesome on March 09, 2004, 05:42:33 PM
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Don't ask you why?  Then how could you p