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Top Prospects & Binghamton Senators / Re: Upcoming 2011 draft
« on: March 12, 2011, 04:25:40 PM »
It depends on the situation the team is in at the time, as much as it does the player. For example, if Toronto ends up tanking and Boston ends up with another top 5 pick, they may end up with a perfectly NHL ready player, and just not have room for him in the lineup. Another team may just want to take time and develop their player slowly, and leave him in the system. You never know how these things are going to pan out.

I guess I was thinking of Ottawa's situation.  And Boston found room for Seguin.

I think what I'm getting at is that there have been players drafted in recent years that simply have nothing left to prove by returning to junior.  Think Doughty, Hedman and Kane....guys who weren't at the generational level of talent like Crosby, Tavares and Stamkos.

So, is Ottawa looking for the guy that will definitely crack the line-up or do they play it conservatively?

Top Prospects & Binghamton Senators / Re: Upcoming 2011 draft
« on: March 10, 2011, 07:48:11 PM »
Regarding the consensus top-4 in the upcoming draft (Larsson, Landeskog, Nugent-Hopkins, Couturier):

Since 2004, just under 43% of players selected in the top-5 played significant games for their NHL club the following season... with 2009 showing 4 of the 5 top picks make their respective clubs.  Anybody have any comments on which (if any) of these players makes his NHL team this Fall? 

Does Ottawa select the player most likely to crack the line-up in year one to advance the rebuild or do they select the player with the highest matter whether they return to junior or not?

Sens Talk / Re: Ottawa claimed Svatos off Waivers
« on: February 24, 2011, 01:32:59 PM »
Interesting. What exactly happened to Svatos that had him fall so far down the Avalanche depth chart??

Top Prospects & Binghamton Senators / Mark Stone
« on: February 22, 2011, 08:38:51 PM »
Senschirp posting the latest prospect update...

Some highlights:

1.  David Rundblad continues to dominate in the SEL - third in league scoring
2.  Mark Stone (drafted 2010-6th, 178th overall) third in WHL scoring including recent CHL Player of the Week honours.  He posted 4 goals and 9 assists in just three games including a 6pt night against Saskatoon.  He currently has 32G and 54A in just 60 games.

Sens Talk / Re: Hello Mr Anderson...... Elliott for Anderson
« on: February 20, 2011, 09:02:58 AM »
Elliott and Anderson's numbers are very comparable except that Anderson's got about 70 more NHL starts under his belt and Elliott has the better win%.  The concern perhaps with Anderson is he has been unable to stick with one team during his career.  Ottawa is his 4th team in 9 seasons.

One stat the stands out with Anderson is his relatively poor career record when playing within his team's conference.  Not sure what to make of it.

Anderson vs. non-Conference

Anderson vs. Conference

Elliott vs. non-Conference

Elliott vs. Conference

Sens Talk / Re: Butler - Finally a Heatley Replacement?
« on: February 19, 2011, 02:18:44 PM »
Stranger things have happened and I don't think 30 goals is out of the question for Butler.  But I don't think I would expect it.  Until earlier this year, you could argue that Butler wasn't even among the top-3 forward prospects for the Sens.  Given how tough it is ti crack an NHL line-up, you could say his recent progression was born of opportunity....but good on him. 

General Hockey Discussions / Re: Kaberle to Boston
« on: February 18, 2011, 06:54:46 PM »
This should up CP's value somewhat.

Sens Talk / Re: Hello Mr Anderson...... Elliott for Anderson
« on: February 18, 2011, 02:59:53 PM »
Btw does leclaires contract finish this year?

Would it matter if it didn't?   :laugh2:

Sens Talk / Re: Hello Mr Anderson...... Elliott for Anderson
« on: February 18, 2011, 01:49:56 PM »
Wow. Did not see that one coming...
Nothing can shock me now, right???

Sens Talk / Re: Phillips not going anywhere?
« on: February 16, 2011, 04:34:12 PM »
And if he doen't waive his NTC and goes else wehere next year, that is his perfect reight.  After all the years here, I hope not to many fans would be jerks and jerkesses about that.

I agree.  I think he's earned the right to stay in Ottawa if it's what he wants.  If Murray's reply to Chris is "you're not a part of our re-build plan, Chris," then Phillips can decide whether or not he wants to make the move to a contender now.

Phillips doesn't owe Ottawa fans anything.  We should not rake the guy over the coals if he chooses to exercise his NTC clause.  It's there for a reason and he's earned it.

Sens Talk / Re: Chris Kelly to the Bruins
« on: February 16, 2011, 12:54:20 PM »
Also, an additional 2.125 million in cap space freed up. Up front for next year, we currently sit with $21,150,000 for 7 forwards (Spezza, Alfie, Michalek, Neil, Foligno, Regin, Winchester). On defence, if we could free up Kuba or Gonchar's salary, we're in really good shape.

Remember that Melnyk and Murray won't be spending to the cap.  They'll be anticipating a less competitive product on the ice and therefore perhaps a reduced gate next season.  Don't expect them to go free agent crazy this off-season.

They may get an opportunity to put in an offer sheet for a young player hitting free agency for the first time (RFA)....someone that could be part of a re-build.

Sens Talk / Re: Chris Kelly to the Bruins
« on: February 16, 2011, 07:54:34 AM »
What part of rebuild do you not understand?

I like Chris Kelly.  But there are a lot of Chris Kellys in this league.  Many of them are cheaper too.

This is the harsh reality.  You think your guy is the best at what he does and trading him seems just stupid.  But there are younger guys ready to do what Chris can.  He was in no position to play a significant role in a re-build.

Sens Talk / Re: Chris Kelly to the Bruins
« on: February 16, 2011, 06:26:12 AM »
I don't think there are any players left that will cause the same gut-reaction if they are traded.  But I will re-brace just in case.

Feel the same way, ST.  I am ready to see Phillips go (it's been talked about for so long) and there are a handful of players I won't really miss at all, but Fish and Kelly.....those types of trades sting.

Sens Talk / Re: Chris Kelly to the Bruins
« on: February 16, 2011, 06:12:54 AM »
Mike Fisher's trade didn't bother me - it had to be done.  Too big a contract for what he brought to the ice.  I am however torn on Kelly's trade.  This guy really was close to full value.  He is very consistent player and a great penalty killer. 

I can't remember the last time Chris' play made me  :icon_angry2:.

Still, a second rounder seems like a reasonable return but I kind of feel Murray needs to begin acquiring prospects that are closer to being NHL ready....especially in the forward position.

I didn't think CK would be moved.  Good luck Chris - we'll miss you.

Sens Talk / Re: Alfie out indefinitely
« on: February 12, 2011, 10:23:09 AM »
I keep thinking to myself how I might feel about being traded to a contender if I had played for one team as long as Alfie has with the Sens.  I'm not sure how fulfilled I would feel about winning as a rental.  You have to expect that some players may value a championship far less under these circumstances than you'd expect. 

Bourque may forever be remembered a Bruin but he couldn't bring them a championship.  I wonder if that diminishes the achievement (with Colorado) at all?

Combine that sentiment with Alfie's family roots in Ottawa (and the challenge of moving to another team for the remainder of the season) and you begin to wonder how important a Stanley Cup ring means to him personally.

It becomes less a matter of loyalty and more a discussion of what's important to the individual.  I don't think Alfie owes the organization anything, much less a willingness to help the club out by accepting a trade that helps stock the team's future with draft picks and prospects.  The last thing we need is a fanbase that applies pressure on the guy to do just this. 

Sens Talk / Re: Fisher to Nashville for 1st
« on: February 10, 2011, 03:55:18 PM »
Tough pill to swallow.  Fish may not have deserved the money he earned but you can't fault his attitude or work ethic.  He was a good teammate and earned praise from just about everyone in the league.  I wish him the best in Nashville and will cheer for him to be the player he never was in Ottawa.

The return is better than I expected which likely illustrates the respect that Mike has earned in this league.

Sens Talk / Re: Ottawa Senators 2010 1st round Draft Pick
« on: February 08, 2011, 12:03:12 PM »
Kid looks good.  Let's hope he can do that at the NHL level. :)

A bit of an understatement...especially given the comment by the opposing player at the end.  AND he's only 20!!   :shock: 

9 goals and 29 assists through 46 games!!  We have a number of forward prospects in the SEL who don't put up numbers like that.

But I know what you mean.  Despite the skill level that exist in the Swedish Elite League, the NHL is without a doubt a different game.

You gotta love when someone puts together a highlight reel like that!   :nod:

Sens Talk / Re: Let the Fire Sale begin....
« on: January 11, 2011, 10:10:07 PM »
I'm with ST and w2p.  Alfie, Karlsson and Kelly are really the only players I would leave untouched. There are role players on the bubble for me like Winchester and Shannon.

I think Regin may have another gear in him but he's likely the type of player that needs to be paired with a superstar to realize his potential - which is really the same issue with Michalek.

I'm pretty sure we've seen Foligno's ceiling.  I like his work ethic but he's a terrible skater and will never play the power game his younger brother does.

Rutuu's style doesn't work in this league anymore...unless he's scoring.  Neil is a shadow of what he used to be and just doesn't seem to have the fire in him anymore.

I could go on and cover everyone but for what?  Is there really any merit in debating Kuba or Campoli's worth?

Sens Talk / Re: Clouston Watch 2011
« on: January 03, 2011, 04:15:51 PM »
I think we are hardly going to recognize this team come Oct. 1st.  Works for me.

Sens Talk / Re: Goaltending
« on: October 16, 2010, 05:13:31 PM »
You know what?  Elliott has actually been our best goalie in the last 2 years.  He has a 47-26 record, .907 SV% and a 2.61 GAA.  Salary and inexperience aside, his stats stack up with most 1st string goalies in the league.

I kind of hope Leclaire stays injured....   :bag:

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