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« Reply #1560 on: March 24, 2004, 09:56:47 AM »
Meanwhile, Calgary and Emonton made moves much earlier in the season to give goalies younger than Prusek legitimate playing time because their established goalies were too inconsistent.

Regradless of how well he played the rest of the time tenders can't give away goals like that.  If there is any silver lining they were both from puck handling, which is something that is easier to address by doing a lot less of it.   In Prusek's last game he might not have gone behind the net to stop pucks even once and it worked out fine because at least the team knew where the puck and the goalie would be.

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« Reply #1561 on: March 24, 2004, 10:03:50 AM »
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Meanwhile, Calgary and Emonton made moves much earlier in the season to give goalies younger than Prusek legitimate playing time because their established goalies were too inconsistent.

Regradless of how well he played the rest of the time tenders can't give away goals like that.  If there is any silver lining they were both from puck handling, which is something that is easier to address by doing a lot less of it.   In Prusek's last game he might not have gone behind the net to stop pucks even once and it worked out fine because at least the team knew where the puck and the goalie would be.


I agree with you OS.  Unfortunately we have passed the point in the season to give our back-up the needed playing time to get him playoff ready.  I personally have never bought into the old "you can't go with an inexperienced goalie in the playoffs" theory because I think that Boston will explode that myth this playoff run with Raycroft along with Calgary with Kiprusoff (sp?), etc., etc.

And Lalime HAS to stay in the net and while there he has to communicate with his d-men, as well as they with him.  There was one time last night that he 'left' the puck for Redden behind the net and Redden was nowhere near the puck with a Boston player coming in!  Complete disconnect there and it happens more than it should, IMHO.
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« Reply #1562 on: March 24, 2004, 10:08:23 AM »
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Meanwhile, Calgary and Emonton made moves much earlier in the season to give goalies younger than Prusek legitimate playing time because their established goalies were too inconsistent.

Regradless of how well he played the rest of the time tenders can't give away goals like that.  If there is any silver lining they were both from puck handling, which is something that is easier to address by doing a lot less of it.   In Prusek's last game he might not have gone behind the net to stop pucks even once and it worked out fine because at least the team knew where the puck and the goalie would be.


A reasonable assessment.  Last night's puckhandling nightmare shouldn't obscure the fact that Lalime's goaltending has generally improved since the deadline -- last night's game included.  He might want to stick to what may well be the future NHL policy anyway:  stopping the puck behind the net on long dump-ins but not trying to play it out.

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« Reply #1563 on: March 24, 2004, 10:12:08 AM »
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I agree with you OS.  Unfortunately we have passed the point in the season to give our back-up the needed playing time to get him playoff ready.  I personally have never bought into the old "you can't go with an inexperienced goalie in the playoffs" theory because I think that Boston will explode that myth this playoff run with Raycroft along with Calgary with Kiprusoff (sp?), etc., etc.

And Lalime HAS to stay in the net and while there he has to communicate with his d-men, as well as they with him.  There was one time last night that he 'left' the puck for Redden behind the net and Redden was nowhere near the puck with a Boston player coming in!  Complete disconnect there and it happens more than it should, IMHO.


I also agree with all of this.  Prusek simply needs to be game-ready for the playoffs.  I too have never bought into this inexperienced-goalie argument.  And you're right about the communication issue -- friendly edit to the suggestion I made about puckhandling in the last post.

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« Reply #1564 on: March 24, 2004, 11:50:54 AM »
Christ is still playing in goal, for Florida, soon he'll be a Sen (please, God, please)

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« Reply #1565 on: March 24, 2004, 12:53:42 PM »
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« Reply #1566 on: March 24, 2004, 01:00:55 PM »
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Well if you listen on Sundays, he's still making greatest of saves.


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« Reply #1567 on: March 24, 2004, 01:51:27 PM »
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After trade deadline: Lalime will get better now that he can breathe since he wasn't traded. You'll see, he'll be great.


Yup, Metal, that's exactly what Lady Stanley and I -- the only people on this thread to talk about Lalime's post-deadline performance -- said.  Bravo for portraying others' arguments carefully.


You haven't been listening to the post-game show on the radio, have you? :roll:
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« Reply #1568 on: March 24, 2004, 01:59:05 PM »
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After trade deadline: Lalime will get better now that he can breathe since he wasn't traded. You'll see, he'll be great.


Yup, Metal, that's exactly what Lady Stanley and I -- the only people on this thread to talk about Lalime's post-deadline performance -- said.  Bravo for portraying others' arguments carefully.


You haven't been listening to the post-game show on the radio, have you? :roll:


No, I haven't.  But your target definitely could have been clearer.  I can probably be forgiven for assuming you were referring to things people have been saying on this thread.  Especially since the "breathe easier" line sounded suspiciously like a version of what LS and I were speculating.

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« Reply #1569 on: March 24, 2004, 02:23:06 PM »
Fair enough. But I meant everyone in general, this board and the radio. I listen to The Team a lot at work.
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« Reply #1570 on: March 24, 2004, 05:57:06 PM »
Lalime was horrible at handling the puck last night and it lead to 2 unexpected goals, but when he stayed in the crease , he was fine. His problem last night was his puckhandling abilities and and not really so much of how he was doing while staying in the net. I don't think its fair to point the finger at Only Lalime for this loss even though some of it was result of his poor puckandling, but the team also is not playing well on a consistant basis. I didn't see that energy coming out of them right when the game started yesterday against Boston and I thought they would play a good game since its a division rival. When they played Colorado,  from the beginning of the game they were playing like a team who really wanted to win. The biggest problem lately with the Sens has been their motivation to play well on a more consistant basis.
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« Reply #1571 on: March 24, 2004, 06:54:51 PM »
As a supporter of Lalime all these years it is time I jump onto the Prusek bandwagon. I want Lalime to play but I have pretty much lost all my faith in him. I don't know if I can say lets see what happens next game because I have been saying this to myself all year. Every time a shot is directed at him I get pretty nervous. I say Prusek goes for it. Prusek has played well this year and obviously deserves his chance to shine. I was always saying experience is what he needs in order to play in the playoffs but when you look at Raycroft which has only played 73 career games, Aebischer(spelling) playing in 128 career games and only 1 playoff game. These are the goalies that will be playing in the the playoffs and have played great this year. Prusek is a really good goalie and I think his time has come to come out of his shell. My only worry is his back. Docawesome, Metalhawk etc, I have read many of your posts and I tend to agree with many of your comments.

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« Reply #1572 on: March 24, 2004, 07:15:05 PM »
I have an acquaintance that has a 16 year old son playing for the Barrie Colts. He made a comment that has made me wonder about Jacques. He said that former NHL players got their team squared away within a few months. Having players that weren't good enough to play did not drag on for months and months, let alone years and years.

I am wondering out loud if this could be Coach Martin's achilles heel. As much as it bothers me to admit it, Quinn can out coach Jacques. I think we have the better overall talent, but you don't see much of a change from one game to the next. I wonder if JM's dedication to Lalime is more emotional than it is objective. Jacques was a not so great goalie and I wonder if it has created a soft spot for Lalime. There can no longer be any objective reason for sticking with him, other than it is just too late.

Oh well, it's just too late this year. It didn't have to be this way. I haven't given up, but does anyone here think the season we got was the season we were promised?

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« Reply #1573 on: March 24, 2004, 07:34:12 PM »
For anyone interested, on RDS they just talked about Lalime and they had the following poll:

"How would you rate Lalime's play since the beginning of the season?"
Excellent -> 3%
Good -> 23%
Average -> 45%
Barely a passing grade/ok -> 18%
Bad/horrid/whatever other adjective you wanna put -> 11%

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« Reply #1574 on: March 24, 2004, 07:40:10 PM »
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I agree 100%. they love using him as a scapegoat. Sure he was the direct result of 2 goals, but the rest of the team were the direct result of the other 2. the team left patty out to dry for the 1st period and at least half the 2nd. aside from his 2 puck handling blunders, he played very well inside the crease and made some huge saves. But you all fail to see it cuz your clouded by your hate lalime vision.  It would have been about 7-2 if he was as bad as you yo yo's are making him out to be. Boston had 36 shot's on net and many many scoring chances. we had very few scoring chances. Don't event attempt to put all the blame on patty, it just makes you look like a bunch of fools.


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Ofcourse we expect him to make some saves. Unfortunately, a 2 goal lead for the opponent in the playoffs means game over. It seems according to you the only way for Lalime to have a bad game is if he allowed 14 goals on 27 shots. Thats a .50 SV%.



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« Reply #1575 on: March 24, 2004, 07:45:50 PM »
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     :roll:

Ofcourse we expect him to make some saves. Unfortunately, a 2 goal lead for the opponent in the playoffs means game over. It seems according to you the only way for Lalime to have a bad game is if he allowed 14 goals on 27 shots. Thats a .50 SV%.


No no no, because then it will be our defense, or our offense not going hard enough, or the other team either outcoaching or outshooting us.
With some of the people around here, Lalime is untouchable, and can do no wrong.

After hearing some of the arguments about our play, I'm starting to think that the root of this decay/evil is actually Jaques...

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« Reply #1576 on: March 24, 2004, 09:02:09 PM »
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« Reply #1577 on: March 24, 2004, 09:02:31 PM »
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After hearing some of the arguments about our play, I'm starting to think that the root of this decay/evil is actually Jaques...


I was waiting for th J word to start surfacing. I have questioned him for years, but agree that he is one of the best in the business. If we let him go he would have many offers on his desk. He cannot read game momentum worth bat dung though. We all know Jacques is not known to be the playoff motivator, but he better make an exception, this team needs a major kick in the arse  :wink:

All in all I have faith in Martin, however were just not gellin'. Maybe a new system would be the answer? Sather? ; :o
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« Reply #1578 on: March 24, 2004, 11:52:48 PM »
bad Defence
bad offence
other team
Jacques
weather
sickness
injury
bad ice
undisciplined play
Fans being bashful
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then maybe Lalime



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« Reply #1579 on: April 09, 2004, 07:59:15 AM »
This Thread started with the Jan.29th game..........Ottawa @ Phoenix

Links to other Official Lalime Watch Threads which were created and flourished under the watchful eye of Docawesome.

Volume 1: Summer + Games 1-25 incl. = http://forum.sensnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=5924

Volume 2: Games 26-50 incl. = http://forum.sensnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=5922

Volume 3: Games 51-76 inc. = http://forum.sensnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=5920

Volume 4: Games 77-Playoffs incl. = http://forum.sensnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?t=5917
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