Author Topic: Your realistic trade... (Read 4081 times)

stone169 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 05, 2006, 04:05:54 AM »

Quote from: SensOwn on November 04, 2006, 05:49:24 PM

Trade Alfie and Redden to Calgary - get an Iginla and Hamrlik

I would rather have Regehr. He can log tonnes of minutes. Play on the powerplay and kill penalties and he can play either LD or RD. Plus he's younger than Hamrlik.

Quote from: SensOwn on November 04, 2006, 05:49:24 PM

Trade Spezza and Kaigy to LA and get Conroy and Visnovsky

Although I do like Visnovsky, Conroy is having a worse season than Alfie right now.

One problem that Ottawa has right now is the same problem that they had last year. They lack a #2 center. It was supposed to Kaigorodov, but that didn't work out and eventhough I love Fisher, he's not working out as the #2 center either.

If you really want to trade someone, trade Vermette. The kid has plenty of upside to him, just not in Ottawa and I think that we could get our #2 center with Vermette setup as trade bait. Conroy would be a good fit, but he's not worth giving up Spezza for and right now Kaigorodov isn't worth anything since his suspension by the team.

Vermette for Conroy. Put Conroy on a line with Alfie and watch them go.

Strachattack · « **Reply #21 on:** November 05, 2006, 11:22:10 AM »

Talk of Morrison playing for the Sens as a 2nd line Centre is back again. It does appear Mucks is looking to add without subtraction because this article claims Nonis is willing to dump Morrison for picks or a prospect.

http://ottawasun.com/Sports/Hockey/2006/11/05/2241776-sun.html

AlexM · « **Reply #22 on:** November 05, 2006, 11:40:23 AM »

You know, Allison at the league minimum wouldn't be a bad idea. The powerplay is terrible and he could be a very good powerplay specialist.

I almost like that idea.

Quote from: SensINSIDER on November 05, 2006, 01:34:21 AM

Get it through your head....Ottawa will not be trading Alfie - no chance -
Redden - no chance -
Spezza & Heatley - no chance -
Phillips - if the right deal comes, but not likely

The rest of the team - not likely -

Ottawa will look to make an addition without subtraction. The only guy who they would part with easily is Hamel. You will probably see a prospect or two along with a draft pick sent for a center.....

Centers I have heard;
Conroy - very possible
Comrie - you never know, but I dont see it or LIKE it
Lighting C's - too expensive, so very unlikely.
Marleau - not likely
Langkow..sp? - not likely
J. Allison - 20% chance lol..

hawk · « **Reply #23 on:** November 05, 2006, 11:52:44 AM »

Quote from: Strachattack on November 05, 2006, 11:22:10 AM

Talk of Morrison playing for the Sens as a 2nd line Centre is back again. It does appear Mucks is looking to add without subtraction because this article claims Nonis is willing to dump Morrison for picks or a prospect.

http://ottawasun.com/Sports/Hockey/2006/11/05/2241776-sun.html

Problem with this deal is that morrison makes 3.2M/year. There's no way we can add that salary without shipping equal (or almost equal) salary back.
So Kaig's leaving saves us 1M, but we'd have to shed at least 1.75 to 2.0 going back to vancouver to keep us in a position to add at the deadline.
Oh wait, if the team keeps going at the rate they are, we won't have to worry about deadline deals! (at least Muckler won't get a chance to make the wrong move for the third year in a row)

This is what sucks about being so close to the cap. In order to bring someone in who can really help you out (which means they are probably making good money), you have to move one of your higher paid players.

Sucker Punch · « **Reply #24 on:** November 05, 2006, 11:54:29 AM »

Quote from: hawk on November 05, 2006, 11:52:44 AM

Problem with this deal is that morrison makes 3.2M/year. There's no way we can add that salary without shipping equal (or almost equal) salary back.
So Kaig's leaving saves us 1M, but we'd have to shed at least 1.75 to 2.0 going back to vancouver to keep us in a position to add at the deadline.
Oh wait, if the team keeps going at the rate they are, we won't have to worry about deadline deals! (at least Muckler won't get a chance to make the wrong move for the third year in a row)

This is what sucks about being so close to the cap. In order to bring someone in who can really help you out (which means they are probably making good money), you have to move one of your higher paid players.

We should send our entire 4th line to the minors, and play with 9 forwards. That would clear up cap space. God knows they don't play anyway.

Sensfanwest · « **Reply #25 on:** November 05, 2006, 12:54:01 PM »

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So Kaig's leaving saves us 1M, but we'd have to shed at least 1.75 to 2.0 going back to vancouver to keep us in a position to add at the deadline.

send schaefer back to vancouver. he's making 1.75 this year

gco · « **Reply #26 on:** November 05, 2006, 12:56:40 PM »

From hockeybuzz:
Alfredsson to Calgary for Robyn Regehr (e2)

Not sure what the point of this trade would be.

Hairdo · « **Reply #27 on:** November 05, 2006, 01:34:26 PM »

Reghr wont be traded IMO. He is one of thier best players.

I can see the Sens trading someone like Shaefer or Vermette for a 4th/5th defensemen.

I think if you guys want to make any big trades for a forward, you will have to deal Volchenkov. He's the only player who Mucks would realistically trade, and the only player other teams would be willing to deal big for. And by big, I mean a proven 2nd-3rd line forward.

hawk · « **Reply #28 on:** November 05, 2006, 02:32:41 PM »

Quote from: gco on November 05, 2006, 12:56:40 PM

From hockeybuzz:
Alfredsson to Calgary for Robyn Regehr (e2)

Not sure what the point of this trade would be.

This trade accomplishes absolutely nothing for the sens.

If anything, it makes things worse

Our defence isn't the problem

It's the fact that we can't score when it counts that is killing us.

When you are losing one goal games, your defence isn't playing half bad. It tells me that our offence doesn't have the guts to get the job done or the other team's does. And it seems no matter who we play in a one goal game, they have more guts.

Enkidu · « **Reply #29 on:** November 05, 2006, 06:37:32 PM »

Hmmm, Philly is struggling...I think Muckler would trade alfie, emery and Redden for Gagne, Forsberg and Niitymaki. I think they'd both have to be desperate (which I suppose Philly is and we're starting to get) and I think we'd be getting the worse end in losing Emery as he's quite talented. But it would shake both teams up a bit.

Meh.

Sucker Punch · « **Reply #30 on:** November 05, 2006, 06:41:54 PM »

Quote from: Enkidu on November 05, 2006, 06:37:32 PM

Hmmm, Philly is struggling...I think Muckler would trade alfie, emery and Redden for Gagne, Forsberg and Niitymaki. I think they'd both have to be desperate (which I suppose Philly is and we're starting to get) and I think we'd be getting the worse end in losing Emery as he's quite talented. But it would shake both teams up a bit.

Meh.

Uh....I'd die.

Phillips - Corvo
Meszros - Preissing
Volchenkov - Schubert

stone169 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 05, 2006, 09:52:18 PM »

I'd like to see them get rid of Preissing. He really hasn't impressed me at all so far this season. I honestly never know when he's out there on the ice. It's almost as if he dissappears. The only reason that I knew he was playing against Carolina is because he was sitting in the penalty box.

hawk · « **Reply #32 on:** November 05, 2006, 10:22:39 PM »

Quote from: stone169 on November 05, 2006, 09:52:18 PM

I'd like to see them get rid of Preissing. He really hasn't impressed me at all so far this season. I honestly never know when he's out there on the ice. It's almost as if he dissappears. The only reason that I knew he was playing against Carolina is because he was sitting in the penalty box.

First rule of the stock markets is you don't buy high and sell low.

Give this kid a chance to adjust. He still needs to find his role here. He's young and it's early ( Yes, i know that's a double standard considering all the talk of shaking this team up, but in this case, he's not the reason we're losing. Sure he hasn't been as good as we thought he might be, but I say you got to give it some more time with him)

Besides, there's no way in hell mucks will trade this guy. He's the return on the Havlat deal. Mucks needs to justify that deal. If he gives up on tom after 12 games, he might as well come right out and say we let marty go for nothing (which maybe we did, but they'll never admit it). Preising could walk into mucks' office and take a dump in his coffee cup and still not get traded

stone169 · « **Reply #33 on:** November 06, 2006, 05:40:25 AM »

Quote from: hawk on November 05, 2006, 10:22:39 PM

Give this kid a chance to adjust. He still needs to find his role here. He's young and it's early ( Yes, i know that's a double standard considering all the talk of shaking this team up, but in this case, he's not the reason we're losing. Sure he hasn't been as good as we thought he might be, but I say you got to give it some more time with him)

Hey, I'm all for giving this guy a chance, but he hasn't been noticed by game 20, then he probably should be traded while Mucks can still get something for him. Just quietly shop him around.

I know that he's not the reason that we're losing. We're just missing that little something to get it all together. It's just that it takes a decent player to bring in someone that will help them get it all together.

Preissing wasn't the only player in that trade. We got two prospects as well.

SensOwn · « **Reply #34 on:** November 06, 2006, 07:08:05 AM »

Quote from: stone169 on November 06, 2006, 05:40:25 AM

Preising could walk into mucks' office and take a dump in his coffee cup and still not get traded

I think most of the players have been doing this in Murray's coffee cup all season...

psahlgren · « **Reply #35 on:** November 06, 2006, 09:56:30 AM »

Why not trade the entire team? Geeze

Hairdo · « **Reply #36 on:** November 06, 2006, 11:24:26 AM »

HAHAHA Emery, Redden and Alfie for Frosberg Nitti and Gange! You guns are halarious...no really

Isnt Preissing in 1st place for +/- for you guys?

The fact is, if you guys wanted to make a drastic move..youd have to trade all of your depth. And you know what that would make you? The Toronto Maple Leafs of the last 6 years (not including this year).

SensGuy · « **Reply #37 on:** November 06, 2006, 12:41:23 PM »

Redden for Lecavalier. Damn, we'd have some lethal centers.

Hairdo · « **Reply #38 on:** November 06, 2006, 02:16:20 PM »

Tucker for Ovechkin.

JackSens · « **Reply #39 on:** November 06, 2006, 03:27:08 PM »

Not that this would happen, however:

Marleau and Carle to OTT
Alfredsson and Volchenkov to SJ

What I can see happening is:

Craig Conroy LA for Volchenkov and a 3rd Rounder (The Kaigodorov contract, gives us Cap room to do this deal).*This would be a gamble at this stage howver, as it would leave next to no movement for the trae deadline...but then again, trade deadline moves for Ottawa have not been very good in the past.