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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2008, 12:39:07 PM »
Hossa did a nice job last game.....diving that is  :shake:

Pens have had an easy run so far.  Ottawa, Rags...  Both battered and missing key players....Not an excuse...just not really a level playing field.
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2008, 01:57:10 PM »
I know I'm being a sore loser (which is my right) but does anyone else here just look at Pittsburgh and see a team that has pulled one too many rabbit's feet out of their penguin asses?  In no particular order....

1.  They drafted 5th or better from 2002 to 2006 (two #1s and two #2s).  I know they sucked in those years to have earned these picks.....but look at those friggin' picks!

2.  The drafts picks that preceded and followed this period now both belong to Atlanta (Armstrong and Esposito) in return for Marian Hossa.

3.  Their #1 netminder (Fleury) is an uninspiring 9-9 to start the season.  But that's OK because an injury on Dec. 7 forced him to miss 3 months, just enough time for a 32-year old journeyman named Ty Conlkin (who's played for a different organization in almost every year of his career) could come in and play like a $7 milllion goalie.  Oh..........and then when Fleury comes back, he no longers sucks.

4.  This team should have been sold and moved by now.....but the City and the State flew in and subsidized a $290 million stadium and will only ask ~$4 million yearly from the Penguins in construction and capital imporvements.

Sour grapes......I know....but given the year we've had...   :bag:

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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2008, 02:11:56 PM »
Hossa did a nice job last game.....diving that is  :shake:

Pens have had an easy run so far.  Ottawa, Rags...  Both battered and missing key players....Not an excuse...just not really a level playing field.

Nope, Penguins won't have the same game against the Flyers when they meet next week.  Man are they in for a surprise.  I can't wait. :)

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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2008, 03:31:44 PM »
I don't know who I'll cheer for should Philly/Pittsburgh meet...I hate both teams. Philly is a dirty team...but on the other hand, I hate Crosby and Ruutu, and I don't want to see them go to the finals.

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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2008, 03:59:29 PM »
I am hoping Pittsburgh kicks some Philly arse, BIG TIME.   :devil_grin:
Wouldn't that be something to see the "kid" raising the cup?  :evil  I might even cry a little.  :crier:

Honestly, I do hope the Pens beat the Flyers.  (It's hard for me to even type that name  :nod: Flyers that is)

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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2008, 04:03:27 PM »
I will be cheering for the Flyers if/when they meet the Penguins.  I will be holding my nose and hoping for the Flyers.....but I have had a lot of practice since I have also been 'cheering' for the Rangers!

I respect Crosby's amazing talent.....I am fed up with his dives.  And I am amazed how many hockey "experts" are now condoning them saying that he draws "a lot of attention" and "it's the only way he can let the refs know the abuse he is taking", etc., etc.  Huh?  Seems to me his flapping lips manage to let the refs know what he's putting up with.  Sorry.  I have heard several commentators say that diving has "become part of the game" and, while I am seeing more and more of it, if that IS the case, then I am really disappointed.  Talk about 'wussing down' the game.   :shake:
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2008, 04:06:33 PM »
I am hoping Pittsburgh kicks some Philly arse, BIG TIME.   :devil_grin:
Wouldn't that be something to see the "kid" raising the cup?  :evil  I might even cry a little.  :crier:

Honestly, I do hope the Pens beat the Flyers.  (It's hard for me to even type that name  :nod: Flyers that is)


 :icon_vomit:  Sorry, no.  I really don't want to see any Penguin raising the cup.

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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2008, 04:08:07 PM »
:icon_vomit:  Sorry, no.  I really don't want to see any Penguin raising the cup.

Me neither!  I just don't like the team. 
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2008, 06:23:33 PM »
Me neither!  I just don't like the team. 

...I don't like their fans.  (The "ZOMG Crosby" ones)




And Rutuu.

Really, my hatred for Rutuu, rules over any other hatred with the Pens...
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2008, 06:45:55 PM »
...I don't like their fans.  (The "ZOMG Crosby" ones)

 :smily677:  Translation please for "ZOMG Crosby".
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2008, 06:51:23 PM »
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2008, 08:54:28 PM »
Could someone explain to me why Girardi pushing Malkin from behind warranted a penalty shot? Girardi didn't even have his stick, so it wasn't like a cross-check, it was a pretty tame push too. This was just a simple check. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with a push? You can't touch a guy on a breakaway? Is there a rule I'm not aware of? Please enlighten me because it's freaking bugging the crap outta me!  :smily677:
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2008, 09:13:10 PM »
Could someone explain to me why Girardi pushing Malkin from behind warranted a penalty shot? Girardi didn't even have his stick, so it wasn't like a cross-check, it was a pretty tame push too. This was just a simple check. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with a push? You can't touch a guy on a breakaway? Is there a rule I'm not aware of? Please enlighten me because it's freaking bugging the crap outta me!  :smily677:

Doesn't the Defensman have to Hook the player on the brake-away for it to be deemed a penalty shot, otherwise its 2 minutes in the box??

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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2008, 09:32:13 PM »
Doesn't the Defensman have to Hook the player on the brake-away for it to be deemed a penalty shot, otherwise its 2 minutes in the box??

Doesn't have to be a hook, any kind of foul impeding the shooter on a clear breakaway warrants a penalty shot if deemed so by the ref. But what Girardi did was simply push him, pretty lightly too. What the hell is illegal about a push? Malkin had the puck on a breakaway so it wasn't interference. Did you see the play?
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2008, 09:49:23 PM »
:icon_vomit:  Sorry, no.  I really don't want to see any Penguin raising the cup.

That would be why I put the devil signs next to the statements.  I figured most everyone here wouldn't want to see that.  And really, I'd probably only cry if it were  Alife raising the Stanley Cup, or maybe Hamel with the Calder Cup. 

I actually like the Ranges too, so I won't be the least bit sad if the Penguins do lose 2 more games.  And then I get to rub it in my son's face, too. BONUS.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2008, 09:59:57 PM »
Could someone explain to me why Girardi pushing Malkin from behind warranted a penalty shot? Girardi didn't even have his stick, so it wasn't like a cross-check, it was a pretty tame push too. This was just a simple check. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with a push? You can't touch a guy on a breakaway? Is there a rule I'm not aware of? Please enlighten me because it's freaking bugging the crap outta me!  :smily677:

I was really wondering about that too!

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1) Let Crosby and Malkin try to fight.  It amuses me to no end.
2) I was hoping that Roszival would continue to "throw" them with Malkin.  I feel Malkin is more valuable to the Pens than the other way around
3) Anyone see those replays of Malkin near the end of the game?  Slewfoot and hook/spear (hard to tell) ... dangerous plays.  This isn't the first time.  When frustrated, Malkin can be a very dirty player.

I forgot the rest of my thoughts.

I would love to see the Pens collapse in the next three games, but that's very unlikely... who knows.  Every 33 years...

    :laugh2:

EDIT: I remembered one more.  That penalty shot... was that not the worst one you have seen in a while?  Just pitiful, especially considering the player behind the puck...
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2008, 11:01:53 PM »
Not only was it a weak push by Girardi that resulted in the penalty shot, but was I the only one who thought that was quite the pratfall that Malkin took?!?  I understand that you can go down fairly hard when you are skating fast, etc. but he seemed to go into Lundqvuist with such FORCE!  And I agree, Szuper, that was one weird/lame penalty shot that he took (after the review, etc.). :shake:
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2008, 11:33:02 PM »
Not only was it a weak push by Girardi that resulted in the penalty shot, but was I the only one who thought that was quite the pratfall that Malkin took?!?

No you're not, and I was implying that with "tame push". But that's besides the point. Hughson and Simpson didn't even flinch at the penalty call, like it was a given. I can only surmise, from their reaction, that there's something we don't know about breakaways; some rule where you can't gently push a man when you don't have your stick. Maybe that's it; if you don't have a stick you have to back off from a breakaway? This is really pissing me off!  :icon_hissyfit2:  I hate this!  If the official called a penalty shot over a gentle push, this is a new all-time low in hockey officiating and I'm beside myself in disbelief. WTF, they're taking all the physicality out of the game, what is this, the phoquing ballet?! Well, Malkin's dive sure was!  :icon_fryingpan:  What makes this doubly infuriating is the fact that a referee doesn't SAY what the penalty IS for an awarded penalty shot. He ONLY signals for it to happen. To me, Girardi made a brilliant defensive play, skating hard, catching up and pushing Malkin offstride.  :ccclapping:  Seems totally legal and fantastically effective, to me.  I want to know why that was a penalty, I want the answer to that, fer crissakes!!!   :smily677:   
   

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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2008, 08:27:06 AM »
I got my answer and I was right in Girardi making a brilliant play, only to be ridiculously penalized for it.  :nod:

Okay, Team 1200 and Pierre McGuire were discussing it at 8:23 am:

Stu: "So why did Malkin get a penalty shot?"

Pierre: "Well, ummm... this is where... ahhh...."

Stu: "For shoving?"

Pierre: "I have no clue. I have no idea why he was awarded a penalty shot."   :smily677:

So there you have it folks, yet another totally ridiculous call by a ref, going AGAINST official rules of the sport! Shame, shame on Hughson and Simpson for NOT calling out the ref on that insanely stupid call, live, on CBC.  :icon_vomit:

                     
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Re: Rangers - Penguins Rd. 2
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2008, 09:08:31 AM »
if you watch the replays again as soon a Malkin was touched he dropped his leg and ran the goalie, he was trying to ram the puck through the goalie ( which is legal if your a pushed in)

The pentalty shot was some random crap, the refs don't like players pushing ppl when they don't have sticks, remember phillips shoving cry baby err I mean crosby to the ground after he had his stick chopped out of his hands and he got a holding penalty ??????