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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #120 on: August 29, 2008, 10:37:27 AM »
I respectfully disagree... he's only 22, it's well documented that defencemen take longer to mature than forwards... to me, his window of opportunity closes at 24-25, especially since he has continued to show offensive skills, it's mainly his defensive skills that have been woeful... I distinctly remember another struggling 22 year old (who struggled well into his 20s) with much less offensive upside than this guy, who we'd be cursing ourselves to have lost... and that 22 year old grew up to be... Chris Phillips

I agree with the Khabi, Seabrook, Barker thing, feel free to dream, but it's not going to happen... now bouwmeester, on the other hand ...
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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #121 on: August 29, 2008, 10:50:51 AM »
There is no way Tampa would pursue him at 5+ million. They should have just kept Boyle! LOL! My god that organization is a circus.  :duh
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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #122 on: August 29, 2008, 10:54:10 AM »
I'll be glad to see the back of this plonker  :howdy:  and hello picks   :woohoo

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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #123 on: August 29, 2008, 10:56:01 AM »
 :icon_agree: moxie, 110%, this makes no sense...
although, with krazy Koules and bonkers Barrie in charge it seems anything could be possible
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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #124 on: August 29, 2008, 11:00:21 AM »
Quote from: moxie on August 29, 2008, 10:50:51 AM
There is no way Tampa would pursue him at 5+ million. They should have just kept Boyle! LOL! My god that organization is a circus.  :duh

 :icon_agree:  I was thinking the same thing myself!!  And if I was Boyle and this deal IS for real, I would be royally p*ssed off!  Not that it would matter much.....but he was interviewed on the Team (while he was in town for golf tournaments this summer) and he did not mince his words at all about what he thought of the TB management and how he was treated. :nod:

Quote from: extraSENSory on August 29, 2008, 10:56:01 AM
:icon_agree: moxie, 110%, this makes no sense...
although, with krazy Koules and bonkers Barrie in charge it seems anything could be possible

 :icon_agree: as well with you insofar if the new owners' track record is anything to base your belief system on, it IS just wonky enough to think that they are trying to make a deal for Meszaros.   :nod:
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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #125 on: August 29, 2008, 02:56:21 PM »
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=16589

hockeybuzz (yeah, i know, not the most reliable) is reporting that Tampa is getting its 3rd pick back and (here's what would be the wicked part), that the deal they're offering is 5mil/6years... if that were accurate, that would mean (wait for it....) 2 1st round picks (and the 2nd and 3rd)! oh glory be, i think that would cement it, let him walk

of course, i'll only believe it when it hits the real news
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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #126 on: August 29, 2008, 03:31:30 PM »
What would it cost Tampa to get their 3-round pick back?  What (or who) would they have that Pittsburgh (I think) would want?
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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #127 on: August 29, 2008, 03:34:17 PM »
Quote from: Small Town on August 29, 2008, 03:31:30 PM
What would it cost Tampa to get their 3-round pick back?  What (or who) would they have that Pittsburgh (I think) would want?

The rumour is that Jussi Jokinen will be going to the Pens for that 3rd rounder.
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Re: Andrej Meszaros
« Reply #128 on: August 29, 2008, 05:20:43 PM »
Latest according to Adam Proteau (who broke the story yesterday), Shero refuses to facilitate an offer sheet, and thus has refused to trade the pick back to TB... time will tell if he's serious or playing hardball... TB is also looking to acquire Mesz in a trade, but, IMO Murray isn't going to be too receptive... other than the draft picks, they don't have much that would interest us (Lecavalier for Meszaros? heard it here first :woohoo) that they'd be willing to give up

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/17692-Multiple-sources-confirm-Meszaros-to-Lightning-deal-in-the-works.html

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Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #129 on: August 29, 2008, 07:08:18 PM »
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=247902&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

Coming our way: Filip Kuba, Alexandre Picard and a first round pick (previously acquired from San Jose).

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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #130 on: August 29, 2008, 07:17:15 PM »
I love this deal!

I have wanted Mez traded for over a year and half....I LOVE THIS DEAL!

Kuba -3 mil cap hit for 1 year
Picard- 23 year old from....Gatineau
SJ 1st rounder so somewhere between 25 and 30

Kuba replaces Mez's offense production: Kuba got 31 pts last year, Mez got 36 pts.
Picard replaces Mez's youth
+ a first rounder in a deep draft!

Pretty nice pairings if you ask me:

Volchenkov-Phillips
Lee-Smith
Kuba- Schubert/Bell/Nycholat/Picard

Upon first blush, I love this deal Murray!

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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #131 on: August 29, 2008, 07:17:34 PM »
First impression: I don't like it... Not sure about Picard... As much as I know about Kuba, he's an older, slightly less talented Meszaros, and SJ's pick is going to be late first round... I'd have felt much better about this if it was their own 1st pick...

it just reminds me of the Havlat deal where a year down the road, all we have left to show is a prospect who might one day play on a 4th line


I'm open to persuasion, though
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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #132 on: August 29, 2008, 07:20:04 PM »
I don't know how you can "LOVE" this deal.  If it was TB's first pick I'd like it a lot more.
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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #133 on: August 29, 2008, 07:26:25 PM »
Quote from: FrequentVisitor on August 29, 2008, 07:20:04 PM
I don't know how you can "LOVE" this deal.  If it was TB's first pick I'd like it a lot more.

That's true, but they still have to sign Meszaros!  :laugh2:
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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #134 on: August 29, 2008, 07:28:52 PM »
it's been widely reported that there's a deal that's already been agreed upon by Mesz and TB

I guess we'll find out how true that was, pretty soon
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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #135 on: August 29, 2008, 08:10:48 PM »
I like this deal for several reasons. I am pleased that the Meszaros deal is finally done and the roster is more solidified. Kuba may have a great year, but at least we got a veteran who knows how to play and we save some money which may make other trades or signings possible.
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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #136 on: August 29, 2008, 08:23:52 PM »
TSN is saying the deal is likely about 4 mil a year for Mez... We offered 3.5 for just as long a term. Whatever, F you Mez. I hope you get boo'd at the Bank this year.

So we got a decent defensemen for 1 year, an project/AHLer, and a 25-30th overall pick. Meh, I'll be rooting for Joe Thornton to break a leg or something this year.

Lee (and Karlsson, hopefully) is officially the future at blueline. We need to start drafting more North Americans, they don't seem to be such arrgant snots.
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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #137 on: August 29, 2008, 08:28:57 PM »
Meszaros could have stayed here, develop and have a big role...but he decided he wanted the money...oh well, too bad, before this summer I would not have guessed that it would turn out this way with him... Good **** riddance.
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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #138 on: August 29, 2008, 08:43:44 PM »
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Love it!

Also love this trade. Understatement. Is Milbury involved in this? He has to be.
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Re: Andrej Meszaros traded to Tampa Bay
« Reply #139 on: August 29, 2008, 09:10:01 PM »
Well this is a surprise.  I'm happy with what we got back.  I like Kuba.  The first rounder is nice sweetner.

Four mil a year eh? oookay.
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