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The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« on: September 02, 2008, 05:36:02 PM »
Canucks Ryan Shannon to Ottawa for Lawrence Nycholat
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2008/09/02/shannon-senators.html

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 06:03:11 PM »
Hmm, I dunno who that guy is really...mainly because he's a Western Conference boy.  With that said I was really looking forward to Nycholat for some reason. 

Anyhoo, should be interesting to see what this guy can do weighing not much more than I do and being 2in shorter.  Kind of on the light side for a D-Man.

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 06:24:53 PM »
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/Ryan_Shannon

according to this it seems he may end up as a good player for bingo.   Although maybe he will suprise everyone.
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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 06:35:01 PM »
Anyhoo, should be interesting to see what this guy can do weighing not much more than I do and being 2in shorter.  Kind of on the light side for a D-Man.
He's a forward with a crap load of speed.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2008, 06:39:15 PM by stone169 »
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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 06:46:28 PM »
Looks like a good move on Murray's part. Nycholat had kind of staled in his time with the organization and would've been a burden this season having a one-way contract and all. Shannon is a St-Louis type player who will bring in some much needed scoring in Bingo and just might impress enough to get a call-up to the big team should we have injury problems.

And let's just say we won't exactly miss Nycholat with the amount of defensemen we have around here now.

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 07:04:43 PM »
Murray's done a terrific job of bringing depth back to this organization that's for sure.

Classmate, you have be liking what you're going to see in Bingo now.
There are good coaches and there are bad coaches, the real question is "Do you want this person to be a role model to your kids for the next 6 months".  That's the question you have to ask yourself.

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2008, 07:49:57 PM »
I wonder if Murray's thinking (hoping?) he can step up and be that top six guy... he's show that kind of potential in the past, but has yet to really get going at the nhl level...

he did have 13 points in 27 games last season, though, which would be a translate into a respectable first year if he could sustain over a full season, and remember, this is on the offensively challenged Nucks... I don't think he played much with the Sundin twins (oops, freudian slip), which means they can't all be fluke points... 27 games does not a career make, but perhaps if he had Vermette to set up while Fisher cleans a path for him ??? who knows

and, as someone said, at the very worst, this provides Bingo with a likely top level AHL scorer

I don't see a down side, good work Bryan  :ccclapping:

EDIT:
Apparently Spector is thinking the same
« Last Edit: September 02, 2008, 08:50:44 PM by extraSENSory »

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2008, 07:52:27 PM »
This is from hockeysfuture.com:
"While he may be small, Shannon is durable, tenacious and works hard. He is smart and possesses great on-ice vision. He is an excellent skater with very good speed who moves well through traffic."

Sound like a theme is developing here?

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2008, 09:07:28 PM »
Well if he does end up in Bingo he can hopefully help Hamel out with scoring.  I'm still curious to see what will happen with Nikulin this season.... and what he will do if he is sent back down here.  I'm also anxious to see who our d-men will be this season.

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2008, 09:20:39 PM »
I keep telling everyone, many will be surprised with the team this year.  The Hockey News ranked Ottawa to come in 5th in the east, and that was before Mes was sent to get a tan.  Oh oh oh,,,,this is getting real exciting now boys and girls...
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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2008, 10:10:05 PM »


Anyhoo, should be interesting to see what this guy can do weighing not much more than I do and being 2in shorter.  Kind of on the light side for a D-Man.
He's actually a Right Winger

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2008, 10:15:52 PM »
He's actually a Right Winger
who can also play centre

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2008, 10:20:59 PM »
It was a trash for trash swap sorry guys.

The canucks dumped shannon, who is too small for the nhl, is terrible at face-offs and who is one of the worst defensive forwards i've ever seen for a very average d-man.

Shannon has two good things; a great shot (which he rarely has on target and which he needs to be set-up for) and he's great in the shootout (does a good spinorama). He has a cup ring (from sitting on the ducks press box) but yeah he'll be at bingo mostly.
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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2008, 10:29:05 PM »
It was a trash for trash swap sorry guys.

The canucks dumped shannon, who is too small for the nhl, is terrible at face-offs and who is one of the worst defensive forwards i've ever seen for a very average d-man.


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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2008, 10:33:23 PM »
That's what they said about Martin St-Louis.....

St Louis can beat a d-man and finish, shannon can't.

He had a good start with the nucks, scoring a goal a game however he was the worst +/- on the team and hence he got farmed. He wasn't that great with the moose either apparently. Anyway it's a very minor deal, won't affect either team much.
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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2008, 10:46:55 PM »
As I mentioned in the other thread, I have seen this kid play more than a few times from his days with the Portland Pirates. Very under-sized. I couldn't see him becoming an NHL regular any time soon but he is a point a game player in the AHL.
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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2008, 01:37:22 AM »
Meh, it's a depth move, and I have no complaints with it considering what was given up in getting him.  The fact of the matter is that he's an affordable forward that can play either in the minors or on the big squad.  This is no world shaker, that's for sure, but it gives Hartsburg and the rest of the coaching staff another forward to consider at training camp.  He's definitely small, but I like having guys like this in the system.  He had good college numbers (not unlike St. Louis, though not as prolific), he's had good success in the AHL as a point per game scorer (again, not unlike St. Louis), and he actually had decent scoring numbers in the NHL as well.  I don't want to keep the St. Louis comparisons going, but it took St. Louis about 3-4 seasons before he became a weapon, and Shannon will be coming into his third NHL season this year, they are listed at the same height as each other, and there is only a listed 2-pound difference between the two of them, which basically means that one of them used the bathroom on weigh-in day and the other did not.  I don't want to say he's going to be the next Martin St. Louis, but if you don't take a shot, you'll never know.  He's small, but there's a niche for small guys in the league right now, and if he can find his role, there's no reason to think that he couldn't make the team.

For those of you knocking Brian Murray, every move he's made this off-season has improved the organization, whether it was providing depth at the minor league level, or provided NHL-caliber players to be on a team that is already pretty good.  I'm no homer by any stretch, but I have complete faith in Brian Murray, even more so after this off-season.  The Senators are still going to be one of the best teams in the East this coming year thanks to the moves he's made since becoming GM.

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2008, 02:07:20 AM »
On another note, Canucks fans seem to hate this move, so maybe that means something?  Murray has perhaps taken advantage of an inexperienced Vancouver GM?

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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2008, 06:34:16 AM »


He had a good start with the nucks, scoring a goal a game however he was the worst +/- on the team and hence he got farmed. He wasn't that great with the moose either apparently. Anyway it's a very minor deal, won't affect either team much.
NOt a major deal at all, but he wasn't that bad with the moose he was  a + 7 ranked 10, he had 8 points in the 13 games and 10 pim.  Defenitely not the worse player on the team.Good depth move. 
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Re: The Canucks move Ryan Shannon to the Sens for Lawrence Nycholat
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2008, 06:38:28 AM »

For those of you knocking Brian Murray, every move he's made this off-season has improved the organization, whether it was providing depth at the minor league level, or provided NHL-caliber players to be on a team that is already pretty good.  I'm no homer by any stretch, but I have complete faith in Brian Murray, even more so after this off-season.  The Senators are still going to be one of the best teams in the East this coming year thanks to the moves he's made since becoming GM.
Not to mention, the salaries that he signed players too.  Look at the situation he has put the team in.  Tons of salary space to sign a significant player.  Possibly two first round picks in '09 (if he doesn't trade one away) I think 8 or 9 defenceman for training camp.  As well as a few extra players up front to fight for the limited openings the sens currently have.  I think he has done a great job.  Certainly better than muckler did.  Considering the players that were brought in and that were traded or let walk during mucklers tenure.