Topic: Shooting spree at Fort Hood, TX

[Jasonf6]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/05/texas.fort.hood.shootings/index.html

[rose]

How sad.  And since this is where their Combat Stress Reset Programme is run, extremely sad in terms of what a tragic setback for those in the programme and those who have lost loved ones.

[classmate]

A sad tragedy indeed.
Prays for those who lost their lives, and their families.

[rose]

Twelve dead;  at this point, thirty-one wounded.  The shooter is still alive and expected to live.  He is a psychiatrist waiting to be deployed to Afghanistan shortly. 

Certainly something that will likely get some 'play' in the coverage of this now is that this young doctor is a lifelong Muslim, born in the U.S.A.  Sure...it shouldn't get much notice but somehow, I think it might.  Hope I am wrong.

Horrible tragedy.   

[CupintheCapital]

Twelve dead;  at this point, thirty-one wounded.  The shooter is still alive and expected to live.  He is a psychiatrist waiting to be deployed to Afghanistan shortly. 

Certainly something that will likely get some 'play' in the coverage of this now is that this young doctor is a lifelong Muslim, born in the U.S.A.  Sure...it shouldn't get much notice but somehow, I think it might.  Hope I am wrong.

Horrible tragedy.  

Thank you for noting this Rose.  I pray for his family as well as the families of his victims.  CNN and Fox are chomping at the bit to turn this into a terrorist attack but in the meantime they are doing what they are desingned to do---boil it down to a sense locking chunk of racism .   I for one will not put up with any racist garbage from others around this tragedy.  I know one thing from this type of story;  the ingnorant will be the most willing to express ttheir "opinion" for all to hear having already determined that this fits their mindless worldview . 

M

[classmate]

Thank you for noting this Rose.  I pray for his family as well as the families of his victims.  CNN and Fox are chomping at the bit to turn this into a terrorist attack but in the meantime they are doing what they are desingned to do---boil it down to a sense locking chunk of racism .   I for one will not put up with any racist garbage from others around this tragedy.  I know one thing from this type of story;  the ingnorant will be the most willing to express ttheir "opinion" for all to hear having already determined that this fits their mindless worldview . 

M

That certainly sounds like Fox news.  My TV is NEVER set to that channel.   

[Jasonf6]

That certainly sounds like Fox news.  My TV is NEVER set to that channel.  

Nor mine.

[CupintheCapital]

That certainly sounds like Fox news.  My TV is NEVER set to that channel.  

Thats a damn fine policy Classmate. 

My exposure to their coverage is via other aggregate sites and discussion forum links.  The odd time I see a few minutes of Fox news when I am out and about I tend to develop a nervous tick and some serious digestive problems. 

I have really had to step back and not try to smear those that do watch it.  I reserve my disdain for those who have allowed and ensured that journalism now serves the purposes of those who would lie to shape our perception. 

[rose]

Thats a damn fine policy Classmate. 

My exposure to their coverage is via other aggregate sites and discussion forum links.  The odd time I see a few minutes of Fox news when I am out and about I tend to develop a nervous tick and some serious digestive problems. 

I have really had to step back and not try to smear those that do watch it.  I reserve my disdain for those who have allowed and ensured that journalism now serves the purposes of those who would lie to shape our perception. 

The only time that I ever see Fox News clips is when I am watching the Daily Show with Jon Stewart and he does a great job in calling them out.  Last night (November 10th) he did a great job showing how they "manufacture" their "facts".  There was a rally in Washington on the weekend (not sure ....likely the healthcare issue) for the Right and they kept, in various reports, "upgrading" the numbers in attendance.  They showed one of the speakers for the day at the microphone/podium and Stewart noted that the leaves were off the trees, it was a typical fall day in Washington.  But wait!!  in the Fox News coverage, as they went on about the "huge" crowds in attendance, Stewart noted that the trees that were barren in a previous scan of the crowd were now green and full of life!  Fox News...what a joke!
 

[Docawesome]

Terrible. I hope the guy was your average psychopath going on a shooting spree not a criminal killing people in the name of Islam because there's nothing in Islam that encourages such behaviour. Maybe he did this in the name of Islam maybe he didn't. Just don't let his 'Allahu Akbar' chant sway your opinion. Its a saying used by Muslims everyday.

I'm sick of 'muslims' killing others in the name of Islam and I'm sick of people with agendas blaming Islam for crimes committed by 'muslims'. Crimes are committed by criminals. Whatever soldiers did to him is no excuse to go Virginia tech on them. Thats why he's going to get the chair or guillotine or crushing by elephant or boiling to death or whatever method they're using these days. And he's going to hell. 

[PuckFancy]

Wow, what an hypocrite this guy is(on top of being a complete psycho)! Speaks out against war on a regular basis, objects to the killing of fellow Islam "believers", and then proceedes to kill 12 american soldiers. It would be ironic if it wasn't so incredibly tragic.

[Broken Bones]

You can also throw in there that it is my understanding is that he is actually a psychologist and has been treating soldiers on their return.

[rose]

You can also throw in there that it is my understanding is that he is actually a psychologist and has been treating soldiers on their return.

I had heard that he was a psychiatrist...the distinction being that means he has a medical degree and has taken the Hippocratic Oath which is built around "....do no harm....". 

He has been treating soldiers who have been to the various wars and Fort Hood, I believe, is the centre for American military members suffering with post-traumatic stress disorder.  I believe he was waiting to be deployed to Afghanistan to work 'in the field' with soldiers suffering from traumas while over there.

From what I have heard over the past week, some who have been treated by this man and/or attended seminars DID have concerns with some of his talking points but felt that they would have been seen as discriminatory (against Muslims) if they brought this to the attention of his superiors.  Talk about hindsight being 20/20.   

So sad for the victims and their families.    And quite a mess for the military since they have many Muslim members and how do you address the actions of a "madman" while reassuring others?   

[classmate]

So much yet to come, still even more, we will never find out about. 

[Broken Bones]

Not that I am saying it is right or such.  But it makes one understand just how and why our government, and others, choose to create camps to house those of a specific faith/culture/origin during a time of war.