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Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« on: July 15, 2015, 11:19:41 AM »
I personally say "NO WAY" I am getting nervous arbitration date set for July 30th.
Don't care if we lose Chiason though. Any thoughts?


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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2015, 01:59:05 PM »
Like most players, it depends on the combination of the return and how much he is given in arbitration, if it gets there. Other than Karlsson, I don't think any other player is untouchable.
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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2015, 08:34:21 AM »
Don't care if we lose Chiason though. Any thoughts?


Barring a great trade return I dont think  we should part with Hoffman just yet.


Chiasson, however, wouldnt bother me if he was traded.


The only thing here is that Hoffman WOULD get a better return and maybe even a larger $$$ amount in arbitration. Chiasson wouldn't net much as a trade target.
BUT.....
Dealing Chiasson would just be admitting we got played big time in the Spezza trade. Wasn't he the main piece? That would be tough to swallow after Bishop/Concaher.....

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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 10:31:14 AM »
Dealing Chiasson would just be admitting we got played big time in the Spezza trade. Wasn't he the main piece? That would be tough to swallow after Bishop/Concaher.....
LOL, so true!!!


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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 01:58:38 PM »

Dealing Chiasson would just be admitting we got played big time in the Spezza trade. Wasn't he the main piece? That would be tough to swallow after Bishop/Concaher.....

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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 09:09:17 AM »

Barring a great trade return I dont think  we should part with Hoffman just yet.


Chiasson, however, wouldnt bother me if he was traded.


The only thing here is that Hoffman WOULD get a better return and maybe even a larger $$$ amount in arbitration. Chiasson wouldn't net much as a trade target.
BUT.....
Dealing Chiasson would just be admitting we got played big time in the Spezza trade. Wasn't he the main piece? That would be tough to swallow after Bishop/Concaher.....
I don't think Hoffman would get that big of an amount.  Certainly not near what he's asking.  You have to remember, he's pretty streaky, was up and down the depth chart most of the season and he's not very good defensively.

I heard he's asking north of $4 million.  He's not worth that.
There are good coaches and there are bad coaches, the real question is "Do you want this person to be a role model to your kids for the next 6 months".  That's the question you have to ask yourself.

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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 09:19:19 AM »
I don't think Murray will trade Chiasson just yet.  I've watched Pau play during the season and I've watched both Guptil and Paul play at the rookie tourney in London. 

I like Guptil's game, but I don't think he'll ever make it to the NHL.  Maybe as a 4th liner.  I like how he goes to the net and could probably make it as a super pest.  He sure seemed to annoy the hell out of the Pittsburgh rookies last year.

I was impressed with Paul at the rookie tourney.  He'll need a bit of time in the AHL, but not much.  He's big, physical, drives to the net...he's a Murray player.  Will he be a top 6 forward?  Don't know, but he'll definitely carve out a niche for himself on the 3rd line.
There are good coaches and there are bad coaches, the real question is "Do you want this person to be a role model to your kids for the next 6 months".  That's the question you have to ask yourself.

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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2015, 10:29:10 AM »
Sens are offering Chiasson $1 million per season.  Chiasson is looking for $2.45 million per season.
There are good coaches and there are bad coaches, the real question is "Do you want this person to be a role model to your kids for the next 6 months".  That's the question you have to ask yourself.

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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 01:13:33 PM »
What the hell has Chiasson ever done to deserve $2.45 million per year? Yikes!
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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2015, 10:08:12 AM »
What the hell has Chiasson ever done to deserve $2.45 million per year? Yikes!
Thank Goodness they gave him half, personally I would have seen him dealt


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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2015, 10:15:23 AM »
So Hoffman is asking for $3.4 mil. and stingy Melnyk is offering 1.7??
C'mon this Kid was our top scorer last year. True; he doesn't have the experience yet but I believe if he gets utilized better than he was last season avg. 15 min. /game, he could very well do 55-60 pts.
I am not saying to just hand him his money, at least offer him some decent cash, not just slapping him in the face like that. This kid has potential.



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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2015, 02:08:26 PM »
Paying for potential is the reason salaries are so out of whack in the NHL (and other sports).
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Re: Should the Ottawa Senators Move Mike Hoffman?
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2015, 12:07:33 PM »
Doesnt look like they were willing to pay for potential.. Hearing is underway